Elon Musk plans to destroy Social Security

[Swede]

In an interview with Joe Rogan that aired last night, Elon Musk claimed that Social Security is "the biggest Ponzi scheme of all time" and said he intends to dismantle it. Musk laid out his plan in vivid detail, starting with the illegal firing of thousands of Social Security staffers who manage the payments system and ensure beneficiaries get their checks on time.

The richest man in the world wants to destroy the most important source of income for retired people, who have paid into Social Security their entire working lives. Even more unsettling, Musk's remarks have been completely ignored in mainstream media.


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[Lovie777]

1. There will be million upon million pissed off people..............

[Blue_Roses]

19. Oh, yeah

and I'll be one of them.

[AllaN01Bear]

133. me thre. they had how many years to destroy ss. ohm myyyy!

[Dem2theMax]

37. There well could be millions of dead people.

Social Security is my only source of income. And it's a small amount. I have enough money in the bank that I might be able to live for four years, if Social Security disappears.

The only upside to this is I can order my headstone ahead of time.

[synni]

74. I'm on SSI. I won't make it 4 months if Social Security disappears.

We aren't allowed to have any savings.

[Dem2theMax]

78. I remember that. I was on SSDI before I hit the magic age that it turned into Social Security.

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The only reason I have anything in the bank is because a relative died without a will. So all of the first and second cousins got a small cut of his estate. If not for that I wouldn't make it to 4 months. I absolutely feel for you, and for everyone in this situation.

[valleyrogue]

142. SSI is not funded through Social Security but through the general fund. n/t

[elocs]

114. You could make it 4 years? That's way more than me.

I only get SS and have some cash tucked away.
I'm 72, have a younger sister who is living on just SS and her 48 year old daughter has Down's Syndrome and gets SSI. How long will we last?

[slightlv]

135. I'll make it 2 months

maybe... and then the utility companies really want their money! We own our home, but the Property tax comes due again in May, along with home insurance and not being able to pay all that will ultimately mean losing our home. I'm hanging on by my fingernails. I've started a new med to try to manage the anxiety, but it's rough.

Kill social security and the number of people who died of Covid in the U.S. will pale in contrast to the number of dead due to no SS. My generation grew up with that assurance it would be there. We had ingrained in us since our teenage years, when most of us started paying into SS. Other generations beyond us have grown up with the thought they were just throwing money away because the program would be dead before they could retire. Only my grandmother and my Mom and Dad really got the benefits due them for having worked and paid into the system. I'm so stressed out over this I can't see straight and one of the thoughts that keeps running in the back of my mind is, "How dare they treat us this way at this point in our lives... How dare they think they can get away with this."

But I notice trump still isn't in jail for stealing and selling National Secrets... so like I said elsewhere, Heaven won't have them, and Hell doesn't want them. So they just keep plaguing us.

[AZ8theist]

63. Eloon must have a death wish....

[JanMichael]

80. Yep.

[GoodRaisin]

88. Hope he gets it

soon.

[HAB911]

100. Security at his dealerships will be expensive

[notinkansas]

146. This!

[RandomNumbers]

105. And the ones who survive that long, will VOTE.

Trumpy politicos might want to remember that.

[elocs]

115. Wow! You actually believe we will get to vote much less in free & fair elections?

That won't be happening after Trump declares martial law.

[HarryM]

130. Didn't Mar-A-Lardo Mussolini say

That you wouldn't have to vote once he was in office?

[Magoo48]

120. Yup, and it won't do any of one bit of good unless a millions of us react, along with our families.

[Bengus81]

131. Dems in Congress need be screaming about this possibility on the floor daily and

fucking FORGET about the price of eggs. Who gives a shit about eggs and bacon with this Country being run by fascists?

[Number9Dream]

136. Democrats, Republicans, Independents, everyone will march on Washington

[YoshidaYui]

147. DOES HE FEAR ASSIGNATION ?

HE SHOULD..

[milestogo]

2. We need to destroy Elon Musk.

[Rebl2]

16. One way

or another I believe it will happen.

[LA Blue Bengal]

36. I'm hoping

For “Another.” Fuck that guy

[MontanaMama]

106. It very well could.

[Intractable]

43. As they say, he is a clear and present danger.

He will cause many people to die, and many more to be miserable.

[elocs]

117. How many Democrats couldn't even be bothered to vote or vote for a woman?

Where did the 6 million votes that Biden received in '20 go that Harris didn't get in '24?

[Cirsium]

128. Voter suppression

Voter suppression is a significant factor.

[LittleGirl]

140. I'd ask Musk

you know, he rounded up his tech bros rather quickly AFTER the election so surely they were around before the election.
Since the inauguration and the Nazi salute, I completely distrust the numbers of the election and wished that Harris had ordered a recount in every swing state, shit no, all 50 and territories. I want to be assured and frankly, as long as musk has been around, I don't believe we lost that election. It was stolen. Musk did it.

[elocs]

157. Democrats seemed to be complacent about the possibility of a stolen election

as if we were too proud for that to happen to us. Did we believe for the 4 years after 2020 that while the Magas were crying about a stolen election that they were not working on different ways to steal one themselves?

[BOSSHOG]

3. An unelected billionaire bureaucrat working for a convicted felon

Intends to dismantle social security. He lies to cover up his scheme to get richer. Thanks neighbors. Trump loves you. He’s said so.

[mitch96]

32. Yup, the more money "they can save" will be more tax breaks for the US oligarchs... Uff I hate this shit..nt

[Borogove]

4. Time to break out the pitchforks.

[lastlib]

26. This is just me, but......

....I ain't takin' no garden tools to no gunfight........

[mitch96]

34. "Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun." is one way...nt

[lastlib]

41. Mao Zedong......

when stuff hits the fan, we may have to become Maoists......

[Cha]

58. Lol... I needed that.. TY!

[airmid]

54. Not just pitchforks. This man can never be allowed to leave this country. He should be tried, convicted and his

punishment should be for all to see.

[UpInArms]

77. I seem to remember some gallows erected

Near the whitehouse

[Bayard]

6. Different link

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/elon-musk-social-security-ponzi-scheme_n_67c337cce4b049364f4586a3

I don't do FB anymore.

[Joinfortmill]

102. Neither do I. I do nothing Zuck.

[Johonny]

7. Joe Rogan is RW propaganda mouth piece

[Prof. Toru Tanaka]

116. Rogan is another ex-UFC (commentator) jagoff.

[elleng]

8. Pretty 'thin soup,' I'd say; won't go anywhere, substantively.

[Cha]

67. I hope you're right becuase thihgs like this

scare me to Pieces!

Dawg I hate them!

[elleng]

82. We contributors and recipients KNOW it is NOT a 'ponzi scheme,'

it is clear EVERY MONTH.

[Cha]

87. Oh that's what that Greedy Asshole is trying to pull OFF

he needs to OFF.

[elleng]

89. ZACLY!!!

[Enter stage left]

9. Do it, see what happens to every Tesla parked anywhere in the US, or elsewhere.

There will not be a automobile owner driving a luxury car safe from vandalism in this country.

I'm not espousing illegal acts of any kind, "just saying"!

[Crunchy Frog]

31. When there is no more law,

there will be no illegal acts.

[Cha]

68. I Hope there'd be More going on than

just broken down teslas.

[Enter stage left]

81. Oh yeah, I think there would be.

[Cha]

86. Oh Yeah, Not just Dems on SS.. I know 2 in the Cult who

have money but not rich.. who would be very upset if they got their SS taken away and Wonder WTH they Voted for alll these years.

Not just my Gen, either.. Future Reireees who have been bilding thier own Socail Security benefis

They're Not going to be happy about that going up in SMOKE!

TY

[Baron2024]

10. Musk

What is the deal with this guy? He is a multi-billionaire and could do whatever he wants. So what does he choose to do? Destroy the federal government and plunge millions of people into distress and misery. You would think that he would have something better to do with his time. Something needs to be done about this jerk.

[keep_left]

13. I've heard it described here as "Techno-Fascism", or alternatively...

..."Tech-Bro Fascism" (the latter being an especially snappy sobriquet for the phenomenon). Closely related to the alt-right "philosophies" of the "Dark Enlightenment" and "Neoreactionary" movements, the "Tech-Bro" ideology seems to be quite popular with Silicon Valley billionaires.

[haele]

55. Techno-Fascism is Atlas Shrugged played out in real life.

They don't understand it's a really simplistic novel that presupposes a comfortable, high tech civilization made up of very few people.
It's an unrealistic view of labor, innovation, and capital.
Just like the rest of those STEM babies. They go for the quick, easy, and certain answer, and don't care about the background, the history of where their ideas come from. They saw the TV shows, read the books and comics, and thought all those ideas were new and just for them to exploit in their cleverness.
They dream of being rich princes like the ones in the books Without the responsibility history would have shown them they needed to take on if they would succeed.

[Dave says]

104. It's Curtis Yarvin and the Dark Enlightenment

I read on the nets that Yarvin thinks the poor (and soon there will be a lot more poor) should be ground up and used as biofuel. Seems nice.

[Blue_Roses]

25. Exactly.

[GardenGnome]

60. Maybe he's decided that since he can't colonize Mars soon enough...

...that he'll have to "fix" the earth. Which, in his mind, probably means killing off millions of people and putting himself in charge of the rest.

[Joinfortmill]

103. He's a selfish, arrogant piece of Satan's work

[58Sunliner]

113. Devolved to a sociopath. Money and drugs.

[Alice Kramden]

149. Srsly his brain is mush

From the drugs and the megalomania

[Dan]

11. I read somewhere that the person in charge of OMB???

Said that we’re in a post Constitutional period. If that is so then all bets are off.

Musk get rid of SS then he will need more Security than he could possibly buy.

[InstantGratification]

12. Yeah that is Russell Vought

He is the one behind orchestrating Project 2025. He authored some of the key parts of it himself and out-sourced other parts, but he is the primary driving force behind it.

[Blue_Roses]

29. I've never heard

this guy's name before. Who is he and where the hell did he come from?

[InstantGratification]

52. Wiki describes him better than I could:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell_Vought

Going crude here: This motherfucker is the shit stain that gave Mango Mussolini his blueprint for the destruction of Democracy. He IS project 2025. Trump is following HIS roadmap. Donnie Dumpster Fire isn't smart enough to come up with this plan and doesn't have the work ethic to get it done. Vought is and does.

Musk and Vance are both acolytes of Peter Thiel. Thiel, Vance, Musk and Vought are the architects of this Nazi shit show.

[Blue_Roses]

62. Thank-you!

I'll check it out. How did I miss this!?!

[Woodycall]

39. Project 2025

That's their plan. But as Mike Tyson famously said "Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face”...

[oldsoldierfadingfast]

27. Please don't let Musk know...

that many MAGAs own guns. Many MAGAs are sharp-shooters. Many MAGAs depend on SS.
Many MAGAs have family that own guns Many MAGAs have family that are sharp-shooters. Many MAGAs families depend on SS.
Many MAGAs have mean streaks.
Many MAGAs can't control their emotions, etc, etc.

Let him go on thinking that it is just Dems. who are against guns and violence, etc. that are on SS.

[Dan]

38. Hahahaha

[birdographer]

40. You got that right

MAGAts thought they would not have their faces eaten by leopards. SS is just the tip of the iceberg. Wait till the economy tanks because of them. Wait till there is no produce at the grocery store because of them. And when Mom and Dad have to move in, or Gramma and Gramps have to move in. Wait till they lose their jobs. Wait till they can’t feed their kids because SNAP is gone. Wait till a tornado or hurricane hits their house and they had no idea it was even coming because NWS has been shut down, and oh, look, FEMA is gone so no lodging or food help. Wait till their spouse dies of the flu because they cut off research for the next flu shot. Flying to a job interview? Oh, sorry, mid-air collision because there are no air traffic controllers left, they fired them all. Had a salad with bagged lettuce and died of e-coli? Oh, sorry, FDA was barred from telling you about the contaminated lettuce.

MAGAts are staggeringly stupid, but give them a year or two and they might stumble into the possibility that their beloved cult leader has—OH MY GOD—been lying to them and does not give a shit about them. In fact, he wants them to die.

[oldsoldierfadingfast]

57. All of that...

and more was going thru my mind as I was typing. Thank you for your perception and elaboration of my thoughts.

[Justice matters.]

64. F he TOLD them he doesn't CARE about them...

he just needed their votes that's all... and the stupids brainless morans thought he was joking...

[angrychair]

51. eLoon and TSF

Would just blame it on "Democrats" and say they are trying to get back and that will be it and they will believe them.

[Cha]

69. Mump would be Fucking Stupid to think only Dems are

on SS...

Oh WATI!!

[crosinski]

14. My husband and I have some savings but we depend on our Social Security checks.

We’re in our seventies and neither one of us are able to work anymore due to old injuries and arthritis. I’m deeply concerned for our future.

[leftieNanner]

23. Us too.

Very scary.

[LastLiberal in PalmSprings]

56. Same here, except I was just diagnosed with Parkinson's disease.

I had been able to supplement social security with sustitute teaching, but after falling five times in nine months the school district didn't renew my contract for the next year.

I'm too old (76) -- and the wrong sex -- to start an OnlyFans, so ss is it.

My main concern is providing for my wife when I'm gone, so Mad Man Musk is a real threat.

[Cha]

71. I am too.. This scares me to bits. I try to stay positive But

the Reality is If I don't have SS I have nothing. No money for food, home, or Necessities.

[elocs]

118. Good luck. I'm in my 70s, depend on just SS monthly, have a little savings.

I am physically in good shape with no health problems or any pain and could work, but where would there be jobs?

[dalton99a]

15. Elon Musk must be destroyed ASAP.

[Rebl2]

17. One way

Or another I think he will be destroyed. There will be so many angry seniors, maga or not maga, they will put the fear of god into their representatives and senators in congress they will get rid of him one way or another.

[Baron2024]

24. Agreed

But it won't just be seniors- it will also be their kids and their grandkids. Can you imagine what would happen in this country if millions of grandmas and grandpas are put out into the streets by Trump Musk? It is a nightmare scenario.

[Blue_Roses]

33. And many of their parents

who are in nursing homes and rely on SS, Medicaid and Medicare for payment to stay in the nursing home.

[BidenRocks]

84. So many armed seniors, many veterans.

Go ahead and lock us up for life!
Free rent, food and health care.
You will pay us one way or another!

[Rebl2]

94. I know

my parents depended on all three when they were in a nursing home. They have both passed. I am reluctantly glad they aren’t here to see what is happening to our country. I think about it once in a while, what my parents and in-laws would think of these people running the government now. My parents could not stand trump.

[Cha]

72. That's a Good way to put it... Mump is a Fucking Leech.

TY & AOC

[RainCaster]

18. There are so many MAGAts in my church who will cry over this

Their faces will be eaten, because "he wouldn't do that to US". Yes, I will lose my SS as well, but I will rub their noses in it. I'm so sick of their self righteous hatred of everyone but them.

[JMCKUSICK]

20. I posted this in response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin December 13

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100219818736

It's basically my theory about how the trust funds, SS and Medicare will get looted.

Is it really that hard to envision a bunch of rich guys eyes glazing over at the thought of a 3 trillion dollar pie?

[SunSeeker]

21. K & R for exposure

[lastlib]

22. I think he does so at his peril.

If he does it, I hope I don't have to take a very high number..........

[Crunchy Frog]

28. Mainstream media is mostly owned by billionaires

Who's views don't differ substantially from Musk's.

I don't think they even see regular people as human.

[Doodley]

30. The intention isn't just to destroy Social Security, but to destroy America.

[ThoughtCriminal]

35. If the checks are even a few days late

They may end up begging for the pitchfork bearing people to kill them before the torch bearing people can get to them.

[Bluethroughu]

42. I do not understand why a mentally unstable drug addict even has one

Government contract, or is allowed anywhere near sensitive information??

Why is he not in a prison cell???

[Alice Kramden]

150. THIS

The guy is openly unstable - his brains are mush!

[dchill]

44. Irony can NOT compete with Elon Musk...

...the world's highest paid welfare queen.

[Linda ladeewolf]

45. Trumpet and bondi are discussing taking guns, without due process.

[synni]

75. So much for 2A - nt

[hedda_foil]

83. I would not be surprised, but unless you have real evidence for that statement, remove it.

Peop!e are jumpy enough without extra ct.

[Linda ladeewolf]

90. All you have to do is google it. Or search YouTube.

I’ve watched the video several times on YouTube.

[hedda_foil]

95. That's not how it works around here. You made a statement, you need to back it up with a link to a credible source.

Your unlinked YouTube video may be credible or may not be. We need a link to your source to determine that.

[Linda ladeewolf]

96. This is from 2018. Pam Bondi is anti guns.

?si=N6zlUIZfWShwhEI7

I’ve no reason to believe she feels any different now. Trump will do what she suggests.
Because no dictator wants an armed population. If it becomes critical to maintain power they will remove guns or they will try.

[hedda_foil]

123. Thank you.

[elocs]

119. Ironic, considering all the gunsters & 2nd Amendment freaks who worship Trump. n/t

[dhol82]

152. Well, so much for the MAGATS carrying on about slippery slopes.

Had an acquaintance who made this argument to me back in 2015. Haven’t spoken to him since. Wonder how he still feels. He has a disabled daughter. Wonder what will happen to her after he dies?

[Deuxcents]

46. What will happen when mortgages can't be met and banks and lending institutions are left high n dry?

There won’t be enough food banks or other resources for those who lose their safety nets. Car loans won’t be met. The strong economy we had a few weeks ago is already showing signs of weakness and if this happens, it will tank and those who cannot make ends meet will very quickly be forced out to where, exactly? Does he have a plan or does Projects 2025 address this?

[markodochartaigh]

50. "...it will tank..."

This is the first part of their plan. The next part is buying up houses, businesses, stocks, whatever, for pennies on the dollar when people are desperate to sell everything that they have worked all their lives for.

They are completely unconcerned with the poor people (and if you don't have enough liquid assets to last through the economic trough, you are poor). Why should they care? It's not their problem.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-56100743

[turbinetree]

47. Hey Florida and Arizona seniors what do you think now...................

and as for the media they are nothing more than enablers..............the dumb fucks pay into social security also.........JFC............had to get this information off face book another enabler owners site called meta.............Zuckerberg..........JFC..........hey NYT, LA Times, Sacramento Bee, Denver Post.........fuck the WAPO..............hellooooooooooooo..........
and then this illegal immigrant wants to get rid of Verizon contract from the FAA and privatize it and put that starlink crap in it's place...............now that's what I call a Ponzi scheme..........

[markodochartaigh]

48. If the Republicans tank Social Security

millions of seniors will be forced to sell their homes into a market spiraling downward in order to get money for their living expenses. Seniors will lose their homes and the next generation will lose their inheritance. Hedge funds will buy the houses in bulk for pennies on the dollar in cash.

[BrianTheEVGuy]

49. Hmmm

If you’re worried about surviving to retirement if they blow up social security, there’s a simple solution. Invest in selling torches and pitchforks — they’re going to be hot items.

[joshdawg]

53. Time for muskrat to disappear..............I care not how.

[elocs]

121. If wishes were horses, beggars would ride. They don't. n/t

[patphil]

59. Ponzi scheme? Yeah, right.

Employees and their employers contribute money to the fund throughout all the years that the people work at their various jobs.
There is always new money coming in to replace the money being paid out, but the amount coming in is not keeping pace with the amount being paid out each year. Right now, about $176,000 is the maximum amount taxed at 6.2% for both employee and employer.
Based on the cost of living, the number of people receiving Social Security, and the increase in life expectancy, it's not enough to sustain the System indefinitely. I'm not in a position to know what dollar amount would be sufficient, but bring it up a few thousand dollars a year isn't working.
I personally would like to see a much larger yearly increase to compensate for how much would be needed to pay back to the contributors when they reach the age of eligibility...perhaps 2-3 times what it is now.
Musk would rather just see the payout decreased to keep the System solvent, but that would be tragic to the 71 million receiving benefits, many of whom need this money to live in an ever more expensive economy.
I think his real concern is simply that he has to pay that 6.2% tax for each of his employees. To put it in plain terms, he a billionaire who doesn't give a shit about the rest of us...calls us parasites.
If he wants to see the true parasite, he should look in a mirror. He's not paying his way for all the wealth he has acquired because of us. We support him through supporting his companies.

[LaRaven]

93. How about the rich paying their fair share...instead of getting more tax cuts?

“The Social Security Administration has said it could face a shortage of funds by 2035. But many Democrats have argued that the program’s funds should simply be shored up by eliminating the cap on Social Security taxes for high earners, meaning that people who make a lot of money would pay proportionately more into the program.”

Go away Elong. You are not an American!

[NoMoreRepugs]

61. Wall St wants those trillions to come their way to be 'under private management."

[Mr. Scorpio]

65. Let's see him actually touch The Third Rail of Politics

This ought to be fun

[Cha]

66. Mump Better Keep his MF Greedy Asshole hands OFF OUR

Social Security!

[The Madcap]

70. His dream is to eliminate retirement altogether.

Work til you die...and you had better enjoy it...our only purpose...

[BarbD]

73. It will be a roller coaster of disaster.

At 87 I live SS check to SS check. And, I am not the only one.

[Fil1957]

76. If anything even close to this happens,

there will be a revolution because almost all working people have paid into or receive SS benefits. However, if we can prevent serious damage to Medicaid, I think social security will be safe. If Medicaid falls, they'll go after Medicare. If Medicare also falls, then they'll go after social security.

[AlexSFCA]

79. media is missing the point. The goal is to reduce life expectancy in the US

because musk considers old people not contributing to society unless they are super rich. The repubs decades old dream to privatize social security and medicare is getting closer to reality.

[AntiFascist]

85. K&R for visibility...

maybe after this, Musk should be watching his back.

[yourout]

91. And they'll try and blame Biden for it.

[Morbius]

92. The blowback if he does try will be tremendous.

I believe - and I hope - that he will fail in his attempt to destroy Social Security. The new Trump administration has seen some blowback already at some of the things they've done, and they appear to have backed off, at least according to what I've seen on the Rachel Maddow show. Musk is playing with radioactive Play-Doh here; he's going to burn himself.

[Johnny2X2X]

97. They want to steal it

Not just eliminate, but they want to steal it.

[gilligan]

98. Leon

Leon doesn’t understand anything.
Why some people think he’s smart is beyond me.

[Joinfortmill]

99. Congress & SCOTUS need to fulfill their oath to the Constitution

If they don't chaos will ensue and people will die.

[elocs]

124. Congress, SCOTUS and the other courts are feckless,

so chaos will ensure and people will die.

[Joinfortmill]

126. That's what I fear the most.

[voteragain]

101. Ponzi scheme

When have the republicans not called Social Security a Ponzi scheme?

Trump does not need his base now.

Musk is the guy Trump wants people to pay attention to and be angry with.

Trump's style has always been that way while he gets his cut of the action.

Trump is getting older every day now.

So, anyone thinking he cares what happens in the future is perhaps wishful thinking.

Look how he is acting on the world stage, revenge and destroying it all before he dies is his greatest orgasm he can have!

Yes, my wife and I depend on Social Security and now just make plans on a monthly basis.

Trump will die that's a fact.

I think Trump, Musk and even Putin have a boss that has given/giving them the script to follow.

What in going on is not just national, it is global.

"Social Security" is what the powers be, do not want the people to have on a global scale......

[elocs]

127. Trump no longer needs his base which is why there won't be any more elections.

Why should he ever allow any more elections?
In a recent interview, Trump was asked if he wants Vance to be his successor? He answered, "no" because he doesn't intend to leave.
Expect martial law soon.

[GiqueCee]

107. Musk's...

... warranty has expired. Junk him, and his asinine "truck", with extreme prejudice.

[Kali999]

108. They ain't getting the guns.

Maga will shoot them dead when they come. I just saw a commercial about Biden wrecking medicare and how trump was going to fix it. On a Rachel show on youtube. Mother fuckers aint stealing our social security either. Musk talks in circles he doesn't even know social security funds itself. And Rogan can't wash him clean either.

[Figarosmom]

109. I cant believe that even rogan listeners

Want their parents or grandparents cut off. Are they all prepared for their parents and grandparents moving in with them sniping off them?

They better start joining the real world.

[RandomNumbers]

110. USA Today article

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2025/03/02/elon-musk-joe-rogan-social-security-ponzi-scheme/81060392007/

The FB post in the OP claims "Even more unsettling, Musk's remarks have been completely ignored in mainstream media."

Last I checked, USA Today IS part of mainstream media.

That said, it is not getting as much attention as it should - yet. Maybe a few clicks would help?

NBC and Newsweek have follow-on stories of key Dems reactions. You can check here:

https://news.google.com/search?for=musk+social+security&hl=en-US&gl=US&ceid=US%3Aen


Next question - why am I only seeing reports about Democrats reacting to those statements?
(rhetorical question, of course. sigh.)

[twodogsbarking]

111. Their intent is to destroy the country.

[markodochartaigh]

112. Let's be clear.

O'Malley is speaking here about a temporary shutdown and collapse from the technology being fiddled with by the Musk team.

"O’Malley said DOGE leaders are now making changes at the agency, and significant staff cuts have already led to system outages. Those intermittent IT outages may happen more frequently and for more extended periods of time until there is a “system collapse and an interruption of benefits,” he said."

He is not predicting a total, and permanent, collapse in the next 30 to 90 days.



Also, "For example, if a woman files for a survivor benefit after her husband passes away, she needs to provide a copy of her marriage license. A Social Security employee then needs to code the system to verify they have seen that document and the applicant is eligible for benefits, Hornick said."

EVERYONE, needs to IMMEDIATELY get their papers in order. Get a physical copy of any paperwork from the government. Make sure that it is officially issued and notarized. There is no telling what will happen, but we are sailing into uncharted waters. A few hours spent collecting documents now may save days of hassle later.

[Magoo48]

122. The day the first check is late must be the first day of the general strike.

[TommieMommy]

125. He don't care that us seniors need that to survive. I know I do.

[underpants]

132. Most successful anti-poverty and retirement plan ever

Depending on a few factors, a person gets everything they ever paid into SS in 5 to 7 years. That doesn’t include the 1/2 employers pay. I am note sure how the self employed work out since they pay the full 12.4%.

[PatrickforB]

134. Impeccable timing. Just in time for the FL special elections coming up. April 1st!

[LymphocyteLover]

137. If he does, he will be destroyed by a mob, the likes of this country has never seen before

[Evolve Dammit]

138. Yep. Time for him to leave.

[Dark n Stormy Knight]

139. Will the public act, though? If so, it should be now! Now that he's announced it!

Are we Americans going to wait til he's done it? Too late then.

I will participate in actions--already contacting reps & attending rallies, & sharing . But I'm not an organizer. And how many others won't or can't do a lot due to financial or health (mental & physical) reasons or because they're lulled into feeling writing a angry comments online is enough?

We need a strong, charismatic leader and we need them *now*! Whatcha doin' Obama & Clinton? Do you gaf? Who has else their name recogniton?

[valleyrogue]

143. The asshole can't do shit.

Psychopath simply doesn't want to pay his share of FICA.


I am tired of these chicken little posts.

[Dark n Stormy Knight]

145. There is nothing destructive Pissolini & Muskolini can't

and won't try to do.

[valleyrogue]

141. "Ponzi scheme," my ass. This asshole doesn't even know what that means.

He is regurgitating libertarian nonsense.

The only "scheme" is his bullshit.

He won't get away with it.

[valleyrogue]

144. Another fearmongering thread to trash.

SS isn't going to be destroyed.

I am sick of these threads.

[Abstractartist]

148. Anyone backing this is a walking dead

Any congressional member backing the removal of social security is politically a walking dead. Millions in this country rely on what they paid in and worked hard most of their lives to be able to have. I will admit, one time social security ratio of payer to payee was about 1-2/1, but now I believe it’s something like 18/. Yes, SS should be helped, but eliminating it will unleash a vigilante movement that may be very hard to put down.

I hope if any type of vote comes up in congress, the democrats MUST insist in a roll call vote. NAMES MUST BE SAID OUT-LOUD AND IN THE RECORD. Once the names are published, sit back and watch, because it won’t be pretty.

[GreenWave]

151. For threatening tens of millions of Americans he should be...

[kimbutgar]

153. Why are the repukes standing by and letting this immigrant a hole destroy our social security?🤬

🤬 🤬

[moonshinegnomie]

154. If the destroy ss I give them 2 months

Until some senior figures they have nothing left to lose and tried to take him out

[90-percent]

155. Found on internet.....

"Elon Musk is gonna end up just like Howard Hughes.

Alone, insane, disgraced, outcast, unwashed, unkempt, ridiculed, and surrounded by jars of his own piss."


-90% jimmy

[pansypoo53219]

156. we need to fix it. like remove the cap so elmo has to pay WAY MORE.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

158. Elon Musk slams Social Security as a 'Ponzi scheme,' sparking new concerns

It’s one thing for Musk to peddle bogus claims about imagined Social Security “fraud.” It’s something else when he targets the system itself.

Elon Musk calling Social Security a ‘Ponzi scheme' can't be shrugged off www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddo...

— (@jessicamullen.bsky.social) 2025-03-03T22:38:09.940Z

Link to tweet

https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/elon-musk-slams-social-security-ponzi-scheme-sparking-new-concerns-rcna194538

Elon Musk’s recent social media posts leave little doubt: He has been thinking about Social Security a lot lately. In fact, Donald Trump’s biggest campaign donor and the head of the quasi-governmental DOGE operation keeps tweeting bizarre claims about alleged fraud and “inconsistencies” he thinks he has identified in the Social Security system......

But the problem is not limited to Musk’s falsehoods. After all, the fact that he’s plainly wrong might not be consequential at all: Musk claims to have found “fraud”; reality proves otherwise; and we all move on with our lives. Right?

Well, maybe not. Making matters worse is the apparent fact that the donor helping run the executive branch in 2025 has a problem with the Social Security system itself. USA Today reported:

Elon Musk sharply criticized Social Security in a Friday podcast interview with Joe Rogan, labeling the critical elder benefits program a “Ponzi scheme.” Musk, who is the world’s richest man and an increasingly powerful adviser to President Donald Trump, also described the federal government as “one big pyramid scheme.” Musk is a leading figure in the administration’s effort — largely through the Department of Government Efficiency — to cut costs and dismantle the federal bureaucracy.

And it’s at this point where the offensive becomes tougher to shrug off

Indeed, let’s take stock. Trump has put his top campaign donor in a position of enormous authority, despite Musk’s unfamiliarity with basics of governing. This same donor regularly peddles falsehoods about Social Security, keeps suggesting there are people receiving benefits checks that shouldn’t exist, is helping advance thousands of layoffs at the Social Security administration and, in case that weren’t quite enough, is condemning the structure of the popular social insurance program.

It’d be tough to blame someone who relies on Social Security for feeling a bit nervous right about now.

“You don’t need to scratch your head and wonder what’s going on when you see that the Trump administration is decimating Social Security offices and staff,” Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer said in a statement. “And you don’t need to ponder what might happen next when Elon Musk, the richest man in the world, says that the tens-of-millions of seniors, families, and children who depend on these earned benefits are part of some scam — because that’s a real threat and a real promise: they are coming for your Social Security.”

Musk and trump are going to try to cut Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid