(Many) Gun advocates here and elsewhere want to SILENCE discussion of gun control

[CreekDog]

we are told again and again NOT to talk about it.

that is the part that is more maddening than simply opposing some regulation of guns --it's that they are always telling us to stop talking about it.

[Comrade_McKenzie]

1. Yep. And many of them are trying to derail the conversation by pointing fingers elsewhere. nt

[ananda]

2. It is never not the time to talk about AND..

.. institute serious gun control in this country.

[LiberalEsto]

3. And they keep parroting their NRA talking points

ad nauseam

[Democracyinkind]

4. If not silencing, then it's controlling it. They know it's all about framing the discussion

Just keep asking the right sidetracking questions - and you can stiffle an open discussion of the subject without appearing to be doing so... This, the gun nuts, the gun lovers, and the gun people (supposing they are different groups) have mastered better than any anti-gun people I see posting here.

[jsr]

5. You see, they too are victims. Our thoughts and prayers are with them in this difficult time.

[_ed_]

6. Anyone who says that is an obvious NRA troll

You keep seeing the talking point over and over:
1) NOT NOW! SHUT UP!
2) Guns don't kill people
3) Should we ban cars?
4) Enforce the laws we already have
5) Mental health

I'm sick of seeing these talking points over and over by the selfish gun nuts.

[rbixby]

9. I think mental health is part of the discussion

But its definitely only PART of it. Our mental health system in this country is dismal. When I was at the doctor's office this morning, I heard him in the hallway asking the nurse about where they refer people for mental health problems who don't have insurance, and the only place around had a 3 week wait to even get an evaluation. That's sad.

This doesn't diminish the importance of gun control, but we can't dismiss it as a non-issue either.

[_ed_]

10. Of course

I was making the point that mental health is used as a diversion by the gun nuts.

[Downwinder]

11. Could be that the gun nuts have a mental health problem.

[_ed_]

12. Well, you'd have to have a mental problem to own a gun for "safety"

when it increases your chances of violent death by 72%.

[doc03]

7. Do you know that somehow President Obama made the shooting happen

in order to take our guns? My brother works night shift and listens to some nut named Alex Jones on late night radio. I guess they have been playing up this conspiracy for a good while that Obama somehow causing these shootings by secret messages in video games or something and suppling them with drugs.

[Sarah Ibarruri]

8. I noticed that. It's a dirty little secret they want hushed. nt

[byeya]

13. I object to the bullying; the misrepresentations; the statement "It can never happen"; the ignoring

of the phrase "well regulated militia", etc.

It's like if the NRA oriented person can memorize a few pro-gun slogans,then that's all is needed to close the discussion.