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republianmushroom

(22,317 posts)
1. Hope you are correct about this statement,
Mon Mar 3, 2025, 02:00 PM
Mar 2025

'America will not put up with it for much longer' and one doesn't miss.

ancianita

(43,307 posts)
6. Of course they do. I meant it metaphorically. But they're ready to blockade anything he does, financial or otherwise.
Mon Mar 3, 2025, 02:59 PM
Mar 2025

They have the physical borders and wire transfers to Russia covered. New York's Fed is the financial center of the world, and except for the Salt Lake City Fed, all of the Federal Reserve banks are in blue states.

Maybe he'd have Muskovite send money via Starlink. Then what. EU would liquidate all of Russia's frozen assets and turn them over to Zelenskyy. Arms? Who'd sell them to Russia?

He'll try, but he'll fail. In the meantime, European central banks and NATO forces have contingencies covered.

It's going to be the world helping Ukraine, and the felon helping the international war criminal.

ancianita

(43,307 posts)
9. Good thing it's not about what WE think. This whole thing is now about the West. Not us anymore.
Mon Mar 3, 2025, 03:10 PM
Mar 2025

Hekate

(100,133 posts)
5. One is tempted to ask if that is a threat or is it a promise. Our former allies in Europe are moving on without us...
Mon Mar 3, 2025, 02:56 PM
Mar 2025

They’ve intelligently been making plans without relying on us. Given who trump is, I hope they have frozen out the US from intelligence reports. Given what is at stake in the world, I wish them Godspeed.

Someone has to stop trump-musk — apparently it’s not going to be us.

ancianita

(43,307 posts)
8. Even if it's his most sincere promise, the EU can stop trump-muskovsky. And most other nations -- from Britain's king to
Mon Mar 3, 2025, 03:09 PM
Mar 2025

all our former allies -- will provide enough money and arms for Ukraine to go on its hardest counteroffensive such that Putin's bluff of strength will be beaten enough to call for a ceasefire, then negotiate a peace treaty with Ukraine.

LetMyPeopleVote

(179,665 posts)
10. Trump's Oval Office debacle with Zelenskyy further isolates the U.S.
Mon Mar 3, 2025, 05:11 PM
Mar 2025

The E.U.'s foreign minister said that the free world "needs a new leader.” She didn’t call out Trump by name, but given the context, she didn’t have to.

In his inaugural address six weeks ago, Trump declared, "From this day forward, our country will ... be respected again all over the world." How's that working out?

He's failing spectacularly. www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddo...

Steve Benen (@stevebenen.com) 2025-03-03T13:05:23.933Z

In his inaugural address six weeks ago, Trump declared, "From this day forward, our country will ... be respected again all over the world." How's that working out?

He's failing spectacularly.




And yet, Trump has suggested that he, and he alone, can restore the country’s international standing, despite reality. Indeed, in his second inaugural address, Trump declared, “From this day forward, our country will ... be respected again all over the world.”

Six weeks later, the world is eagerly expressing its respect for one country and one leader, but it’s not our country and it’s not our leader. The New York Times reported:

European leaders quickly pledged their continued support for Ukraine on Friday after President Trump’s blistering criticism of Ukraine’s president, Volodymyr Zelensky, in a meeting at the White House. Leaders lined up behind Ukraine and praised its embattled president, the statements coming one after the other: from France, Germany, Poland, Spain, Denmark, the Netherlands, Portugal, the Czech Republic, Norway, Finland, Croatia, Estonia, Latvia, Slovenia, Belgium, Lithuania, Luxembourg and Ireland. Canadian, Australian and New Zealand leaders added their voices to the Europeans’.


That list reads like an inventory of countries that have stood proudly with the United States for generations. But after Friday’s fiasco in the Oval Office, leaders and officials from these countries practically tripped over each other to express their public support for Ukraine and its president — making clear to global audiences that they were not on board with the American president’s obscene display.

Indeed, one day after the debacle at the White House, Zelenskyy arrived in London to a hero’s welcome from British Prime Minister Keir Starmer.
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The embrace came on the heels of European Union foreign minister Kaja Kallas saying, “Today it became clear that the free world needs a new leader.”

She didn’t call out Trump by name, but given the context and the circumstances, she didn’t have to.

As the dust settles, Britain, France and Ukraine have agreed to work on a ceasefire plan. It’s the kind of work that used to be done by and with the United States — and would’ve been done by and with the United States up until six weeks ago.

LetMyPeopleVote

(179,665 posts)
11. White House takes aim at Zelenskyy's 'body language' and fashion choices
Mon Mar 3, 2025, 06:51 PM
Mar 2025

What exactly did Volodymyr Zelenskyy do that left officials in the West Wing so offended? They have a list, but it’s awfully pitiful.



https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/white-house-takes-aim-zelenskyys-body-language-fashion-choices-rcna194515

As Friday’s fiasco in the Oval Office made painfully clear to the nation and the world, Donald Trump and his White House have a problem with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy. Indeed, over the last few days, there’s been all kinds of talk emanating from the West Wing about the Ukrainian leader needing to “apologize” to the American president — and perhaps even resigning.

But what is it, specifically, that Zelenskyy did that was wrong?

Zelenskyy apparently made the wrong fashion choices: Before the Ukrainian leader even entered the White House, he was greeted by Trump, who said: “Look, you’re all dressed up today.” Interest in Zelenskyy’s clothing intensified from there, especially among conservative media personalities — though they appeared far less concerned about Elon Musk wearing a baseball cap and a “tech support” T-shirt in the West Wing.

Zelenskyy apparently used “body language” the White House didn’t like: During an appearance on CNN’s “State of the Union,” White House national security adviser Mike Waltz said the Ukrainian president was “incredibly disrespectful” while being berated in the Oval Office. To bolster the point, he pointed to “the body language, the shaking of head ... the arms crossed.”

Zelenskyy apparently had criticisms for the authoritarian leader who invaded his country and butchered his people: After the Ukrainian leader said Russia’s Vladimir Putin “hates” Ukraine, Trump chided Zelensky for “speaking badly about somebody else” — because if there’s one thing we know about the Republican president, it’s that he just cannot abide speaking badly about people.

.....Each of these complaints make Trump and his team appear rather weak and easily offended — unless, of course, the White House planned to take offense from the outset, and Republican officials looked for post-hoc rationalizations to justify the positions they were going to take anyway.
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