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Last edited Tue Mar 4, 2025, 12:09 PM - Edit history (1)
Presidents move to expand tree cutting across 280m acres evades rules to protect endangered speciesThe president, in an executive order, has demanded an expansion in tree cutting across 280m acres (113m hectares) of national forests and other public lands, claiming that heavy-handed federal policies have made America reliant on foreign imports of timber.
more here (original):
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/mar/03/trump-national-forest-executive-order
Irish_Dem
(81,007 posts)It is not Trump's land to give away.
It belongs to the American people.
Prof. Toru Tanaka
(2,920 posts)He fancies himself a king that owns everything. This administration is getting uglier by the day.
Irish_Dem
(81,007 posts)Yes they believe they own it all.
Deuxcents
(26,599 posts)bdamomma
(69,503 posts)to listen Dr. Mary Trump, Psychologist she has a lot to say about his mental illness.
(Sorry this is not in Liberal You Tube)
Solly Mack
(96,853 posts)Codifer
(1,204 posts)to the fricken cornfield.
Solly Mack
(96,853 posts)North Shore Chicago
(4,236 posts)You know what to do.
Walleye
(44,595 posts)AloeVera
(4,206 posts)FoggyLake
(314 posts)Giant baby steps, I guess.
DinahMoeHum
(23,566 posts)n/t
AloeVera
(4,206 posts)"Abomination of desolation" sums him up well.
questionseverything
(11,768 posts)FoggyLake
(314 posts)Mountainguy
(2,145 posts)get tied up in court.
Any company taking on those contracts is going to be in a boondoggle.
Cha
(318,692 posts)Encouraging thought!🕯️🕊️💙🌻🌈
D_Master81
(2,519 posts)You mean you want to tarrif Canada and have it not affect the price? We do realize that that is a short term solution right? There is only so much timber. We could continue normal relations like weve had for decades but no, lets shit on Canada and cut down our forests.
LisaM
(29,604 posts)You don't just chop down trees and have them ready to go.
bdamomma
(69,503 posts)that's it, this mo'fer has to go. He's a SF. He has to go, I don't care how he goes, but he has to go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Baitball Blogger
(52,237 posts)Last edited Mon Mar 3, 2025, 10:00 PM - Edit history (1)
This one is too obvious. He really is trying to distract us. Is Fort Knox the target?
Raftergirl
(1,851 posts)this kind of work.
OrangeJoe
(558 posts)First off National Forests have had timber sales since the system was first established years ago. Since that time a considerable amount of land has been withdrawn in designated Wilderness areas where no timber will be cut. As far as the rest of the forest which doesnt have specific legislated protection some of it does contain merch I.e. timber which is large enough to harvest. Reagan upped the cut quite a bit in the 80s and some of that is almost ready to be put back into rotation.
However, the Forests are managed by professionals and they have standards and practices that Donny is not going to be able to just wave aside. Given that he fired so many FS staff they will be short of timber cruisers and , Im guessing here but I worked with FS managers for a number of years, nobody is in a hurry to do his bidding. So be concerned, speak out to your Congressional Reps, but dont get dismayed. The professionals are going to slow walk this until dumbass gets distracted with the next shiny object
FeelingBlue
(801 posts)May have voted for him and may not even be in attendance. Foresters have been let go. Arborists will not be invited to this party.
I wish I could count on your words. But, this insane man is clear cutting this country in every way he can and not even old Republicans have the stomach for saying no to the Monster.
GreenWave
(12,606 posts)Lucky Luciano
(11,857 posts)Emrys
(9,090 posts)mtngirl47
(1,240 posts)Marie Marie
(11,216 posts)But then, hate is beginning to be an inadequate word for my feelings towards him.
a kennedy
(35,847 posts)🤬 🤬 🤬 🤬 🤬
Paladin
(32,354 posts)I want my country back, before it's all gone.
NickB79
(20,316 posts)Now their prime deer and elk woods are slated for destruction.
FAFO.
Wingus Dingus
(9,173 posts)to restore them, and some species might go extinct. He is the Antichrist.
Johnny999r
(131 posts)Trump has no interest in anything except griftering others to fatten his wallet. He doesn't know Jack about running a business, but he knows a lot about filing multiple BKs. He hates dogs and nature in general and refused to get a puppy for his son Barron. His other two sons are obsessed with killing animals, especially in the case where Don Jr. was granted an exception by some Premier in the Nepal area to shoot and kill a rare endangered species there. Another form of shake down because Trump Sr. invited the Premier to the White House as his reward. Don Jr probably showed off his kill to the Dallas Safari Club for bragging rights. Has Trump done one thing for the environment, I can't think of anything, maybe because he's a POS and I can't stomach looking at his pancake makeup face, stupid hair combovers and ignorant lying statements. Lastly, does he know that ransacking our national forests is liken to straggling our atmosphere and the multiple other negatives associated with it? What a turd, driven by showing how powerful he is.
CareyOn
(88 posts)but here goes. About a decade ago a close relative who is a professor spent his summer visiting Israel and Gaza. On his last day
in Gaza he along with others planted a few trees. This was an act of civil disobedience as no one in Gaza was allowed to plant a tree. I could not understand this until it was explained that planting trees represents hope for the future. Any gardener knows
the satisfaction and hope that comes with caring for growing things. My own most spiritual experiences have been when I am
surrounded by trees. Trump is doing so much more than harvesting wood, he is endangering the soul of our people as he strives to rape the forests. He himself is soulless.
slightlv
(7,770 posts)and he collapses, dead, in a heap on the floor. Is there a provision to ask for proof he's not possessed by a demon, and have him prove it?! I wish! /snark
proud patriot
(102,469 posts)I Hate him so much
Faux pas
(16,321 posts)the End Times roll.
Figarosmom
(11,614 posts)Everything is for sale as far as he is concerned.
Him and musk be the first to fell a tree hopefully falling on their tiny little heads.
2naSalit
(102,229 posts)For that general strike.
That policy won't get far out here in the west.
underpants
(196,214 posts)The Koch Brothers et al manage vtimber and have made a lot of money off it.
Fun fact - education spending in the Northwest is tied to harvesting on Federal land.
Dem2theMax
(11,005 posts)Damn him, and everyone who voted for him and is supporting him, for all time.
Buddyzbuddy
(2,502 posts)and local laws governing traffic codes, labor and safety codes and anything else they can use to slow down the process. Make it hard to do the job. You can't stop it but you don't have to make it easy.
We can cause forrest traffic jams and any other ideas people might share. Sorry truckers, but think of the overtime. For o/o's find something else to haul.
leanforward
(1,133 posts)These EOs are getting rediculous He is mentally deranged and is allowed to continue with this BS of tearing everything down. But, wait, that means no one needed rake the forest leaves/needles.
ReRe
(12,185 posts)When Stupid mentions this tomorrow night in the SOTU address and brags about what a wonderful thing it is to cut down our National Forests, a male Democrat with a strong voice needs to shout out "You Lie."
dobleremolque
(1,116 posts)old copy of "The Monkey Wrench Gang" and pay homage to Edward Abbey, and reread how to spike a tree so it shatters the sawmill blade and makes the lumber useless.
kimbutgar
(27,196 posts)I hope a federal judge does an injunction. That is fricking insane!
I took a class I the 70s explaining about how we need forests to help the environment.
BidenRocks
(3,186 posts)You don't own anything so you can't give it away or destroy it.
It belongs to WE the people!
Martin Eden
(15,550 posts)This monster must be stopped, at all costs.
Qutzupalotl
(15,802 posts)Gaslighting at its finest, or utter cluelessness.
Emile
(42,051 posts)Fuck no!
FloridaBlues
(4,661 posts)InAbLuEsTaTe
(25,518 posts)Vinca
(53,855 posts)I live a few miles from an Interstate that connects this country to Canada. If you watch traffic for 5 minutes, you're likely to see at least one double log truck headed for the border to be processed in Canada. It's like that 24/7. Load after load after load. If he starts cutting everything in sight, all we'll have is piles of rotting logs in the forest.