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Botany

(77,323 posts)
Tue Mar 4, 2025, 10:05 AM Mar 2025

Krasnov is burning America to the ground. End of story. There is no both sides to the issue.

Last edited Wed Mar 5, 2025, 08:53 AM - Edit history (2)

The Department of Education

Cutting our protected and or forest lands that are not ready to be harvested. In hopes that
this will make up for the loss of lumber from Canada …. Btw I am kind of an expert in this
and the wood from a Virginia Pine is not the same as the wood from a Douglas Fir grown
in British Columbia.

The FBI. Kash Patel and Bongino

Our intelligence communities under a Russian asset …..Tulsi

The D o J under Bondi who he bribed in 2013 when she was A.G. In Florida

NOAA and its Climate Observatory in Mauna Loa … a gift to the fossil fuel industries

The EPA

The CDC & NIH

Sec. of Defense who doesn’t care about Russian cyber attacks

Letting thousands of J 6th criminals walk

Tariffs that could sink the world economy

His tertiary syphilis…. allegedly

Selling or giving away America’s top secrets to our enemies

Removing A.P. from the White House press pool and replacing them with a front for
the Chinese Communist Leadership and businesses and banks that do business with
China … Semafor

Not standing with our allies but with Putin.

Grifting non stop grifting

Another dirty election in which… removing voters on the front end and fucking with the vote
data on the back end … Musk & the GRU

Crypto baby Crypto

Losing billions of dollars of foreign markets for our farmers

Racism, Sexism, and just plan ass being a dumb fuck

Did you know the very fluid border between metro Detroit and metro Windsor does
more than 5 billion a year in trade alone and automakers have used those connections
for years.

Dropping out of the W.H.O. Science works when information is shared.

Being a prick. DEI just means grow up and don’t be an asshole.

Being mean to LGBT people especially kids.

Consumer Financial Protections

The Rule of Law

Decency

I have to stop. Add anything I missed. This is the deliberate burning of America to the ground
by a mad man who works for the most evil person on earth, Vlad Putin.

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Krasnov is burning America to the ground. End of story. There is no both sides to the issue. (Original Post) Botany Mar 2025 OP
Risks to Medicare, Medicaid, SS NewHendoLib Mar 2025 #1
Thanx Botany Mar 2025 #5
All happening too fast NewHendoLib Mar 2025 #16
Krasnov is Trump's Russian code name, which a KBG agent gave him at least 40 years ago. I had to look........... usaf-vet Mar 2025 #32
Krasnov was a traitor that the Soviet Union Botany Mar 2025 #37
Now he's a traitor to the United States GoodRaisin Mar 2025 #47
Front Man for the Techno Fascists who want to burn JCMach1 Mar 2025 #2
Taking Greenland from Denmark, Renaming Gulf of Mexico (you did refer to the AP) Blues Heron Mar 2025 #3
Greenland, Canada as a state, Panama, and the Gulf of Mexico are all gaslighting operations .. Botany Mar 2025 #6
Definitely. They are quite adept at the dark arts of getting under peoples skin. Blues Heron Mar 2025 #7
What will be the big, shiny, bullshit story johnnyfins Mar 2025 #15
Watch the Chicago Board of Trade Botany Mar 2025 #17
Trump Abruptly Walks Back His Directive To Fire Thousands Of Federal Employees LiberalArkie Mar 2025 #65
Trump's interest in Canada Canada has lots of urnium. n/t dixiegrrrrl Mar 2025 #58
That's an inescapable conclusion. sop Mar 2025 #4
I liked it before the Constitution was used as toilet paper. Kid Berwyn Mar 2025 #8
Poetry. rubbersole Mar 2025 #14
Michael Cohen warned us. He will take it all down with him. dchill Mar 2025 #9
And Hillary repeatedly warned us long before Cohen did Native Mar 2025 #33
As did many New Yorkers before her. moonscape Mar 2025 #82
No One Mr.Bee Mar 2025 #10
Yup. yellow dahlia Mar 2025 #55
Greg palast 90-percent Mar 2025 #63
Putin and Musk salivating over unprotected Ft. Knox. rubbersole Mar 2025 #11
Trump is the face of Treason. dchill Mar 2025 #12
Stop him malaise Mar 2025 #13
Is there room in Port Antonio for us? jayschool2013 Mar 2025 #56
Trans rights? Did you forget that one? LittleGirl Mar 2025 #18
I thought I got that covered in LGBT Botany Mar 2025 #29
sorry, missed the T ! Thanks. nt LittleGirl Mar 2025 #46
Great summation botany Magoo48 Mar 2025 #19
greenhouse gases no longer a problem, by executive order. nt wiggs Mar 2025 #20
our NATO role effectively eliminated. nt wiggs Mar 2025 #21
Trump's revenge for not loving him. Turbineguy Mar 2025 #22
"Without firing a shot..." dlk Mar 2025 #23
I have posted here, for YEARS DENVERPOPS Mar 2025 #59
Who is going to hold them accountable? IronLionZion Mar 2025 #24
Damn 3auld6phart Mar 2025 #25
On your 2nd comment--cutting for US lumber mchill Mar 2025 #26
Like trees along stream and river ways or on Botany Mar 2025 #35
What we need Codifer Mar 2025 #27
Here is the solution. Plain and clear. multigraincracker Mar 2025 #28
Gotta admit, whats happening to our country was the "GREATEST take down ever". bluestarone Mar 2025 #30
I feel like someone has come and stabbed JMCKUSICK Mar 2025 #31
I am exhausted being so ANGRY every waking moment that I pay attention to what VonSchitzInPants NoMoreRepugs Mar 2025 #34
This ain't right cilla4progress Mar 2025 #36
#PutinOwnsTrump red dog 1 Mar 2025 #38
Thank you Botany. What a list and we are only weeks in. WTF. c-rational Mar 2025 #39
In her Friday night show, Rachel Maddow put together a list of actions taken to benefit Russia/Putin. lastlib Mar 2025 #40
Krasnov is clearly a traitor. notinkansas Mar 2025 #64
The Orange Jesus is just the biggest prize Dr. T Mar 2025 #41
Trump&Putin Twin Demons of Destruction. oasis Mar 2025 #42
I don't know whether to weep or laugh. Beacool Mar 2025 #43
burning it all down is correct. For Vlad and to what end? Internal unrest leading to martial law? Toppling currency? Evolve Dammit Mar 2025 #44
WE are both sided to death RANDYWILDMAN Mar 2025 #45
Orange Anus SuzyandPuffpuff Mar 2025 #48
This message was self-deleted by its author Baron2024 Mar 2025 #49
Terrible Baron2024 Mar 2025 #50
Would you expect any less HarryM Mar 2025 #51
tldr Nimble_Idea Mar 2025 #52
That's a good horrible list underpants Mar 2025 #53
Gut the country, demoralize the people. cayugafalls Mar 2025 #54
It will be a lot worst than the September 11 attack if millions will Justice matters. Mar 2025 #57
So far its the only answer that seems to fully fit the actions quakerboy Mar 2025 #60
He LIKES Putin. Birds of a feather, I guess. summer_in_TX Mar 2025 #72
that doesn't make sense quakerboy Mar 2025 #85
Quite the mystery. summer_in_TX Mar 2025 #86
The great Smoky Mountains are National Parks and he wants to clear cut them ms liberty Mar 2025 #61
Noooo, not the Smokey Mts. Blue_Roses Mar 2025 #62
Spiteful firing of the Commandant of the Coast Guard and the Navy Admiral primarily because they are women and he has to LT Barclay Mar 2025 #66
Is Ford's Theatre still in business ? Nigrum Cattus Mar 2025 #67
By the time The Greatification is done... BurnDoubt Mar 2025 #68
Like an abuser who gets dumped, Orange Hassler Mar 2025 #69
It's feels like he is collapsing the US economy and then doing a coup cancelling our constitution and making himself a kimbutgar Mar 2025 #70
There should be allot of no's tonight ReRe Mar 2025 #71
You may have missed: Aussie105 Mar 2025 #73
Using state and federal agencies to investigate, punish, and silence Akakoji Mar 2025 #74
I'd say... 2naSalit Mar 2025 #75
Putin bdamomma Mar 2025 #76
And he should be sitting in our Super Max Fed. Prison right now for stealing those documents Botany Mar 2025 #77
Destroying research universities and biomedical research. yardwork Mar 2025 #78
Who will lead? We are a Ukraine without a Zelenskyy usonian Mar 2025 #79
A journey of a thousand miles begins with the 1st step. You can be a leader if you want. Botany Mar 2025 #80
I'd love to. I'm 76 and nobody listens to me even on DU usonian Mar 2025 #81
Right here ... is this young enough? Botany Mar 2025 #84
Burning it all to the ground moondust Mar 2025 #83

usaf-vet

(7,811 posts)
32. Krasnov is Trump's Russian code name, which a KBG agent gave him at least 40 years ago. I had to look...........
Tue Mar 4, 2025, 11:39 AM
Mar 2025

.........it up to understand the title of the post.


Krasnov is Trump's Russian code name, which a KBG agent gave him at least 40 years ago.

Botany

(77,323 posts)
37. Krasnov was a traitor that the Soviet Union
Tue Mar 4, 2025, 12:04 PM
Mar 2025

... executed after WW II. The KGB knew Trump was a traitor from the get go.

GoodRaisin

(10,922 posts)
47. Now he's a traitor to the United States
Tue Mar 4, 2025, 12:30 PM
Mar 2025

Deserves to tried for treason and face a firing squad.

JCMach1

(29,202 posts)
2. Front Man for the Techno Fascists who want to burn
Tue Mar 4, 2025, 10:10 AM
Mar 2025

The government down leaving only a ruler/king/dictator.

There is a method to the madness.

Blues Heron

(8,837 posts)
3. Taking Greenland from Denmark, Renaming Gulf of Mexico (you did refer to the AP)
Tue Mar 4, 2025, 10:17 AM
Mar 2025

GREAT list Botany, its unbelievable. When you put it all together like that, the goal is clear.

Botany

(77,323 posts)
6. Greenland, Canada as a state, Panama, and the Gulf of Mexico are all gaslighting operations ..
Tue Mar 4, 2025, 10:26 AM
Mar 2025

to keep people from noticing the flames,

LiberalArkie

(19,804 posts)
65. Trump Abruptly Walks Back His Directive To Fire Thousands Of Federal Employees
Tue Mar 4, 2025, 05:44 PM
Mar 2025

Mar 4, 2025, 01:54 PM EST

WASHINGTON — President Donald Trump on Tuesday abruptly walked back his directive to federal agencies to fire thousands of probationary employees, a stunning reversal that comes days after a federal judge ruled that the president’s ongoing mass firings of federal workers are probably illegal.
In a new memo delivered to the heads of all federal agencies, the Office of Personnel Management ― the human resources agency of the federal government ― says it doesn’t actually have to comply with its previous instructions to fire all probationary employees, or people who have generally held their jobs for a year or less. Instead, per this memo, federal agencies have until Sept. 13 to come up with their own plans for reducing staff.
“OPM requests that agencies not issue any agency-specific rules until such rules have been reviewed and approved by OPM,” reads the revised guidance to federal agencies, issued by OPM acting Director Charles Ezell.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-reverses-directive-fire-federal-employees_n_67c65042e4b044c440ed75bd

Kid Berwyn

(24,395 posts)
8. I liked it before the Constitution was used as toilet paper.
Tue Mar 4, 2025, 10:31 AM
Mar 2025

John Roberts’ countenance wears the rich orange glow of a face hard-pasted to the broad and pimply ass of Putin’s agent of treason.

Mr.Bee

(1,823 posts)
10. No One
Tue Mar 4, 2025, 10:43 AM
Mar 2025

will ever convince me this was a free and fair election
for the billionaires and tech bros to rob this country from the inside out.

yellow dahlia

(5,877 posts)
55. Yup.
Tue Mar 4, 2025, 01:05 PM
Mar 2025

And they made sure they had the (slight) majority in the House and Senate, so there would be no oversight. And the RepugliCONS are being controlled so he can bypass Separation of Powers and trample Article 1.

It is all so obvious.

90-percent

(6,956 posts)
63. Greg palast
Tue Mar 4, 2025, 04:15 PM
Mar 2025

Did videos about voter disenfranchisement. Apparently anybody can challenge the legitimacy of any voter registration. Republic operatives did this by the thousands/ millions



-90% jimmy

LittleGirl

(8,999 posts)
18. Trans rights? Did you forget that one?
Tue Mar 4, 2025, 10:58 AM
Mar 2025

I just read that he is forcing them out of the military within 30 days.

I just received my 4th social security check and I hope it wasn't the last one.

Botany

(77,323 posts)
29. I thought I got that covered in LGBT
Tue Mar 4, 2025, 11:33 AM
Mar 2025

But thanx for bringing it up. In Ohio we had one T-girl playing on her high school softball
team and the Republicans had to have a special session of the legislature to pass a law to stop that. Her teammates were OK with her,
her coaches were fine her, and the other teams
had no problem with her but they just had to be shits.

Magoo48

(6,721 posts)
19. Great summation botany
Tue Mar 4, 2025, 11:05 AM
Mar 2025

It appears there will be a long period of chaos in front of us. May all of us who love freedom, stay strong, and prevail in the long run.

Turbineguy

(40,074 posts)
22. Trump's revenge for not loving him.
Tue Mar 4, 2025, 11:11 AM
Mar 2025

Last edited Tue Mar 4, 2025, 11:54 AM - Edit history (1)

He wants us to believe that the fentanyl trade is causing this.

Since when does trump give a shit about people dying? Or are dope dealers not paying him tribute?

DENVERPOPS

(13,003 posts)
59. I have posted here, for YEARS
Tue Mar 4, 2025, 02:15 PM
Mar 2025

what my Russian friend tells me about what the Russian People think of this..........

He has said, starting years ago, During Trumps first term, what his friends and relatives tell him. Basically that they are all laughing at how Putin has PLAYED Trump and the entire Republican Party. And how Putin, via Trump, has been destroying the U.S. Including the Constitution, the Democracy, and the Economy of the U.S. AND how he has done it without starting a war, or firing a single missile or rocket at the U.S.....

Pretty well sums it up, don't you think??????????

IronLionZion

(51,267 posts)
24. Who is going to hold them accountable?
Tue Mar 4, 2025, 11:19 AM
Mar 2025

We can all see them destroying our country from within.

mchill

(1,188 posts)
26. On your 2nd comment--cutting for US lumber
Tue Mar 4, 2025, 11:26 AM
Mar 2025

From The Guardian:
“Donald Trump has ordered that swathes of America’s forests be felled for timber, evading rules to protect endangered species while doing so and raising the prospect of chainsaws razing some of the most ecologically important trees in the US.”

This absolutely scares me. Besides, just the logistical reasons of the forest service workforce having been decimated since the 1990s, most of the area designated for timber management have been cut in California. I can’t speak to Oregon & Washington timber supply (the major source of Doug-fir needed to replace Canadian lumber) but I suspect they will go after old growth forests that have been reserved for endangered species. I noticed they are trying to drop some of the rules from the National Environmental Policy Act (NEPA) on the federal register last week, knowing this would be the first barrier to wholesale cutting.

Botany

(77,323 posts)
35. Like trees along stream and river ways or on
Tue Mar 4, 2025, 11:48 AM
Mar 2025

slopes. We have learned so much about biodiversity and the complexity of ecosystems
that help all things but it seems like that knowledge is not followed.

Codifer

(1,205 posts)
27. What we need
Tue Mar 4, 2025, 11:32 AM
Mar 2025

is a "straw that broke the camel's back". An act by tsf that is so fucking vulgar an insult that the populace will go get their pitchforks.

Oh look. I see one on your list..... and another and.......

bluestarone

(22,178 posts)
30. Gotta admit, whats happening to our country was the "GREATEST take down ever".
Tue Mar 4, 2025, 11:35 AM
Mar 2025

It can all be stopped if 4 or 5 RETHUGLICON senators would turn independent for 4 years. This is our only hope.

JMCKUSICK

(6,048 posts)
31. I feel like someone has come and stabbed
Tue Mar 4, 2025, 11:38 AM
Mar 2025

Our America repeatedly and has left her to bleed out.

NoMoreRepugs

(12,076 posts)
34. I am exhausted being so ANGRY every waking moment that I pay attention to what VonSchitzInPants
Tue Mar 4, 2025, 11:48 AM
Mar 2025

is doing to destroy America - it's almost impossible to get away from it.

lastlib

(28,264 posts)
40. In her Friday night show, Rachel Maddow put together a list of actions taken to benefit Russia/Putin.
Tue Mar 4, 2025, 12:22 PM
Mar 2025

I believe she expanded it last night. It is GOBsmacking! And those were just the ones we publicly know!

Crime Minister Krasnov is CLEARLY a Russian agent.

notinkansas

(1,318 posts)
64. Krasnov is clearly a traitor.
Tue Mar 4, 2025, 05:17 PM
Mar 2025

I felt completely deflated after watching last night. There has to be a way to stop him. And vance. And eloon.

Dr. T

(646 posts)
41. The Orange Jesus is just the biggest prize
Tue Mar 4, 2025, 12:26 PM
Mar 2025

mounted on Putin's wall. Wisconsin’s Ron Johnson is a smaller mount. He has done everything but publicly admit it. His actions and words scream it. I'm guessing your state has it's own.

Beacool

(30,518 posts)
43. I don't know whether to weep or laugh.
Tue Mar 4, 2025, 12:27 PM
Mar 2025

This is how democracies die, one small cut at a time.


Evolve Dammit

(21,774 posts)
44. burning it all down is correct. For Vlad and to what end? Internal unrest leading to martial law? Toppling currency?
Tue Mar 4, 2025, 12:28 PM
Mar 2025

SuzyandPuffpuff

(540 posts)
48. Orange Anus
Tue Mar 4, 2025, 12:41 PM
Mar 2025

He and his puppet master need to go. Any way possible. You don't like it here "Phillip" (my name for him) ... then lick Putin's balls in Russia. Where Yu belong. We. Don't.Want. You. Here.

Response to Botany (Original post)

 

Baron2024

(1,492 posts)
50. Terrible
Tue Mar 4, 2025, 12:52 PM
Mar 2025

One of the worst things about Trump 2.0 is that he has surrounded himself with a cadre of freaks and sociopaths. So it is not just Trump causing problems now. It is the demonic clown car of dangerous idiots that he has collected for his second term. Really one of the worst things that I have seen in my entire life. We are living in a terrible period of history. I hope that we survive it.

HarryM

(464 posts)
51. Would you expect any less
Tue Mar 4, 2025, 12:53 PM
Mar 2025

From a Russian Agent. Putin must have something on Krasnov. Maybe he offered to let him build a casino in Moscow or something,

cayugafalls

(5,960 posts)
54. Gut the country, demoralize the people.
Tue Mar 4, 2025, 01:04 PM
Mar 2025

Welcome to the new AmeroRusso Alliance.

You think I’m joking…nope.

I wish to heck I was.

Justice matters.

(9,787 posts)
57. It will be a lot worst than the September 11 attack if millions will
Tue Mar 4, 2025, 01:19 PM
Mar 2025

will suffer and die from this destruction from the inside, including from CAT 5(+) hurricanes and even more devastating tornadoes coming up. Half of Florida under water and the sea-level coastal cities like New York and Los Angeles in the years ahead.

quakerboy

(14,868 posts)
60. So far its the only answer that seems to fully fit the actions
Tue Mar 4, 2025, 03:20 PM
Mar 2025

Theres only one little issue. Why? Why would he kowtow to putin once he has gained a position more powerful than putins? What in hell could hold trumps loyalty at this point?

summer_in_TX

(4,168 posts)
72. He LIKES Putin. Birds of a feather, I guess.
Wed Mar 5, 2025, 01:56 AM
Mar 2025

Also, Russia helped him repeatedly, starting with bailing him out financially after no American banks would lend to him. They've cultivated his positive opinion of them for decades.

quakerboy

(14,868 posts)
85. that doesn't make sense
Wed Mar 5, 2025, 04:37 PM
Mar 2025

He likes putin more than himself?

He is literally destroying his own power to help russia. He could be ruling the world, but instead is just destroying the usa.

And many others have helped him over the years. He has no loyalty, he turns on anyone the moment they are not useful to him. What need does the dictator for life of the usa have that would make him subordinate himself to a substantially smaller, weaker dictator?

summer_in_TX

(4,168 posts)
86. Quite the mystery.
Thu Mar 6, 2025, 01:21 AM
Mar 2025

But Trump's body language shows he's subservient when he's around Putin and his frequent admiring statements are pretty clear evidence that he admires him.

I'd say between his gratitude for getting bailed out and his admiration for cruel dictators, his number one favorite is Vlad.

ms liberty

(11,237 posts)
61. The great Smoky Mountains are National Parks and he wants to clear cut them
Tue Mar 4, 2025, 03:50 PM
Mar 2025

I wonder how many of my neighbors wanted that when they voted for him? None, probably - all of us use our parks, particularly that one, that's only an hour away.
The leopards are going to be too fat to properly hunt, with all the easy pickings they've had.

Blue_Roses

(13,879 posts)
62. Noooo, not the Smokey Mts.
Tue Mar 4, 2025, 03:59 PM
Mar 2025

We went there every summer for vacation when I was a kid. It's a fun, beautiful area that needs to be left alone.

LT Barclay

(3,180 posts)
66. Spiteful firing of the Commandant of the Coast Guard and the Navy Admiral primarily because they are women and he has to
Tue Mar 4, 2025, 06:13 PM
Mar 2025

show he’s the top shit-flinging male.

BurnDoubt

(1,720 posts)
68. By the time The Greatification is done...
Tue Mar 4, 2025, 06:40 PM
Mar 2025

No one will want to live here, if indeed they CAN.

Hassler

(4,924 posts)
69. Like an abuser who gets dumped, Orange
Tue Mar 4, 2025, 09:10 PM
Mar 2025

Julius Seizure is telling America who hates him, "If I can't have you no one will "

kimbutgar

(27,248 posts)
70. It's feels like he is collapsing the US economy and then doing a coup cancelling our constitution and making himself a
Tue Mar 4, 2025, 09:54 PM
Mar 2025

A co dictator with the musk🐀!

What are we going to do to stop it?

ReRe

(12,189 posts)
71. There should be allot of no's tonight
Tue Mar 4, 2025, 09:59 PM
Mar 2025

interrupting his so-called SOTU speech. He has absolutely nothing to brag about. I hope Dems who are present make Republicans sorry that SOB said "NO!" to President Obama all those years ago. Shut down the GD speech after each GD sentence! I want to see a fight for Democracy!!!!~ (God help my poor old arthritic fingers as I slam this keyboard.!)

Aussie105

(7,920 posts)
73. You may have missed:
Wed Mar 5, 2025, 02:03 AM
Mar 2025

People getting fired so reversing Biden's positive employment numbers.

The Dow index down 5.24% in the last month.

But Krasnov says is all is sweet and rosy, so the faithful will believe his version of reality.

Akakoji

(520 posts)
74. Using state and federal agencies to investigate, punish, and silence
Wed Mar 5, 2025, 07:39 AM
Mar 2025

All those who refuse to be quiet. Using violent fringe right wing white nationalist groups to intimidate local, state and federal politicians.

Sorry, kids. Elections are over in the US.stop saying it’s an ongoing coup. They won. They were successful. People are confused, angry, humiliated and unwilling to fight. They are sniping at each other online,trying to escape to the social media platform they think might allow them to believe their complaining and outrage will have any effect.

There is only one solution to this program. As Jane Fonda said recently - we are that documentary. It’s happening, now. Best start hoarding supplies now. Uncontaminated ones, that is.

bdamomma

(69,532 posts)
76. Putin
Wed Mar 5, 2025, 08:14 AM
Mar 2025

won without taking a shot.

This is disgusting, Russia has always been our enemy, and we a got a felon criminal thug who stole the presidency.

We are the new threat to our allies.

Botany

(77,323 posts)
77. And he should be sitting in our Super Max Fed. Prison right now for stealing those documents
Wed Mar 5, 2025, 09:07 AM
Mar 2025

We executed 2 people for that the Rosenbergs, and ex FBI Agent Robert Hansen just died
doing 15 life terms for the exact same thing too.

Our courts, the media, the Republicans, the DoJ, and many in the Democratic Party didn’t
say shit about his crimes and just gave him a pass. For the Love of Dog the man stole money
from kids with cancer and the widows of our troops who were killed in Iraq and Afghanistan.

yardwork

(69,364 posts)
78. Destroying research universities and biomedical research.
Wed Mar 5, 2025, 09:55 AM
Mar 2025

You mentioned the NIH, CDC, and WHO.

The world is losing one of the greatest accomplishments of human beings. Tens of thousands of scientists at research institutions working day and night to cure diseases, part of a global network of people sharing discoveries in open source databases and peer-reviewed journals. That's why the COVID vaccine was developed so quickly.

The NIH is on hold. Billions of dollars being withheld. If Trump follows through - and why won't he; RFK, Jr. doesn't have a clue - the whole thing will be destroyed.

The goal is to force scientists to work in industry, where very little R&D is done, and what little medicines we will have will be sold at prices only the rich can afford. That's Musk's dream.

Botany

(77,323 posts)
80. A journey of a thousand miles begins with the 1st step. You can be a leader if you want.
Wed Mar 5, 2025, 01:43 PM
Mar 2025

And one weapon we have these fascists is the one thing they can never take from us,
The truth.

usonian

(25,318 posts)
81. I'd love to. I'm 76 and nobody listens to me even on DU
Wed Mar 5, 2025, 02:11 PM
Mar 2025

How about a little get-together? I'll email invites.



Anyone younger care to lead?

Botany

(77,323 posts)
84. Right here ... is this young enough?
Wed Mar 5, 2025, 03:45 PM
Mar 2025
https://myfox28columbus.com/news/instagram/ohio-student-association-condemns-president-trumps-attempt-to-silence-protests-gop-maga-republicans-senate-bill-1

Things can be done by older folks too. Plant some native plants, show kindness, maybe offer to
host some of these youngsters in your home, enjoy a cup of coffee with a neighbor, and never ever
give in to the madness.

moondust

(21,286 posts)
83. Burning it all to the ground
Wed Mar 5, 2025, 03:08 PM
Mar 2025

"from the inside" is a notion I heard David Jolly suggest yesterday. He said if that's what you wanted to do--this is how you would do it. That it could be intentional widespread destruction is a thought that had crossed my mind as well. I don't know why he would want to do it. Revenge? Childish bitterness for so many not bowing down and not making him emperor forever? History-making infamy? Loyalty to Putin?

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