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babylonsister

(172,761 posts)
Tue Mar 4, 2025, 10:30 AM Mar 2025

U.S. Downgraded to 'Non-Democracy'

https://politicalwire.com/2025/03/04/u-s-downgraded-to-non-democracy/

U.S. Downgraded to ‘Non-Democracy’
March 4, 2025 at 7:25 am EST By Taegan Goddard

According to the Polity Project, an organization that ranks and categorizes governments worldwide, the U.S. government is classified as a “non-democracy” as of February 2025, a downgrade from its previous status as a democracy.

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U.S. Downgraded to 'Non-Democracy' (Original Post) babylonsister Mar 2025 OP
Just in time for the dweller Mar 2025 #1
Disarray? Disunion? Hugin Mar 2025 #2
Dystopia BlueMTexpat Mar 2025 #16
Distemper? Hugin Mar 2025 #18
Dysphoria Simeon Salus Mar 2025 #59
Word of the day. Hugin Mar 2025 #60
Dysfunction! ReRe Mar 2025 #66
State of the State. I guess ... live love laugh Mar 2025 #65
Confederacy rpannier Mar 2025 #76
Well, there it is... Hugin Mar 2025 #3
Media Johnny2X2X Mar 2025 #4
We had a chance to make an impact when this takeover of the media started decades ago right up to today. hadEnuf Mar 2025 #29
Being a vassal state of Russia will do that to you ck4829 Mar 2025 #5
and only took a reality star to do it. BlueWaveNeverEnd Mar 2025 #6
Knew there was a reason angrychair Mar 2025 #19
And it all started with a movie "star" in 1981. generalbetrayus Mar 2025 #34
Is there a link to this Policy Project itself? defacto7 Mar 2025 #7
https://www.systemicpeace.org/polityproject.html Lonestarblue Mar 2025 #9
Thank you defacto7 Mar 2025 #14
You don't have to be a member of Politicalwire to see the post. Ms. Toad Mar 2025 #48
Republicans never did like that we're a democratic republic Emile Mar 2025 #8
So much winning... KewlKat Mar 2025 #10
Nothing about this on CNN or NYT this morning. Seems important. nt wiggs Mar 2025 #11
The in-depth news reports were a few days delayed in 2017 Ms. Toad Mar 2025 #49
Here is a link to Polity Project state of stupid Mar 2025 #12
Are we sure this isn't satire? ColoradoHoosier Mar 2025 #13
If it's satire, it shouldn't be. (nt) Paladin Mar 2025 #15
It's very real. Hugin Mar 2025 #23
Thanks! Ms. Toad Mar 2025 #50
I noticed that too. Hugin Mar 2025 #52
data Celerity Mar 2025 #69
Thank you! n/t Ms. Toad Mar 2025 #70
yw Celerity Mar 2025 #72
This sounds like a nothingburger. Not much info at the Political Wire link and their link to Polity Project * Oopsie Daisy Mar 2025 #17
Here: chia Mar 2025 #21
Its right on the home page of https://www.systemicpeace.org/index.html Wiz Imp Mar 2025 #26
Wow. So Trump's win is considered a " succesful coup". AloeVera Mar 2025 #28
Yes. Thank you. Oopsie Daisy Mar 2025 #32
Welcome. I think it WAS a coup, though a slow-mo one. AloeVera Mar 2025 #44
Yep. Not to mention that Trump should have -- and would have in a healthy democracy -- been in prison a few years back. KPN Mar 2025 #55
Joyce Vance explains it well here: Wiz Imp Mar 2025 #51
It isn't the win that is the coup. Ms. Toad Mar 2025 #71
You could interpret it that way. AloeVera Mar 2025 #74
No. The election was on November 5. Ms. Toad Mar 2025 #75
Good points. AloeVera Mar 2025 #78
I was surprised there were so few. Ms. Toad Mar 2025 #79
200 was just a nice bigly number to impress his cult. AloeVera Mar 2025 #80
Now we're a shit hole country. nt Hotler Mar 2025 #20
That is True. A lot of us also call it a Dick-Tator country. chouchou Mar 2025 #22
I can picture the wives of Roberts, Scrolito, Thomas all popping........ wolfie001 Mar 2025 #24
ThAt'S bEcAuSe We'Re A rEpUbLiC!!! BlueTsunami2018 Mar 2025 #25
That "someone" is us -- WE the People. BarbD Mar 2025 #40
One "could" but I don't know "who" that one is Justice matters. Mar 2025 #42
WE must find a way. There is no alternative. BarbD Mar 2025 #46
Stomach churning. Joinfortmill Mar 2025 #27
For those who have a conspiratorial mind frame.... reACTIONary Mar 2025 #30
Ok, if all that is true (can't research right now) Shipwack Mar 2025 #54
Don't know. Making sense isn't.... reACTIONary Mar 2025 #56
Rethuglicans are all traitorous scum. OMGWTF Mar 2025 #31
That's an insult HarryM Mar 2025 #38
We are clearly not a democracy at this point. unblock Mar 2025 #33
Did putin send congratulations to trmp? spanone Mar 2025 #35
But....but....now we're SAFE! under our new Fueh......leader. Ping Tung Mar 2025 #36
Hey, that's no way to talk about Il Douchebag Montauk6 Mar 2025 #85
Let me know when HarryM Mar 2025 #37
I doubt that we can expect fair elections in 2026. hay rick Mar 2025 #39
Excellent question. BarbD Mar 2025 #41
My concerns are the people and the planet. hay rick Mar 2025 #45
Kick. Rec. Bookmark. Hekate Mar 2025 #43
More great news. Passages Mar 2025 #47
Spreading this and hoping it goes viral before SoU tonight. blm Mar 2025 #53
Might as well acknowledge reality. nt SunSeeker Mar 2025 #57
Well that ought to make his little mushroom stand at attention. Marie Marie Mar 2025 #58
Took long enough. Karasu Mar 2025 #61
"We're living in a dictatorship, a Broligarcho Syndicalist Con Game" Montauk6 Mar 2025 #62
I can't find a list of countries etc. or that on their website? Meowmee Mar 2025 #63
The world is watching as we devolve toward sociopathic authoritarianIsm. Evolve Dammit Mar 2025 #64
It's pretty bad when ReRe Mar 2025 #67
data Celerity Mar 2025 #68
Welll, this is depressing af! ShazzieB Mar 2025 #73
Culmination of vast amounts of work from the southern Confederacy through the fascist Germans... Beartracks Mar 2025 #77
Several days after the Nov Election coprolite Mar 2025 #82
Exactly why it's important to vote each time for the BEST candidate on the ballot. Beartracks Mar 2025 #83
Not even masquerading as one anymore. marmar Mar 2025 #81
Fuck you MAGA! Fuck you Fox! Fuck you Trump! You brought this craziness on us! Initech Mar 2025 #84
I'm screaming into the wind of a political hurricane.... Joinfortmill Mar 2025 #86

rpannier

(24,927 posts)
76. Confederacy
Tue Mar 4, 2025, 11:02 PM
Mar 2025

They'll be placing the Stars and Bars next to a statue of Jefferson Davis

Johnny2X2X

(24,216 posts)
4. Media
Tue Mar 4, 2025, 10:45 AM
Mar 2025

You cannot have a functioning democracy without a free press. I think the oligarchy took full control over the media a few years ago and that Trump winning in 2024 was assured because of that. So yeah, we will get to vote in 2026 and 2028, but it's such an uninformed and misinformed populace that it's now just an illusion of choice. People (not individuals, but the whole) are incapable of resisting the mass media which successfully fills their heads with doubt about even the most basic facts. And we are seeing an oligarchy that is acting like they know the will of the people no longer matters. No matter how severly they destroy the democracy and the economy, they know it doesn;t matter for elections anymore because their media machine will convince enough people that everything is great, that everything is Biden's fault, or that they are the only ones who have the solutions.

And this river of shit that is the media and social media is only going to get deeper. Resistance will become harder and harder as the truth becomes so obscure that even DUers will have trouble with it. We actually saw a lot of this in 2024 where objectively, the best economy for working people in 60 years was painted as terrible by DU posters over and over and over.

hadEnuf

(3,621 posts)
29. We had a chance to make an impact when this takeover of the media started decades ago right up to today.
Tue Mar 4, 2025, 12:17 PM
Mar 2025

Many, many of us saw exactly what the right-wing was up to with the media, but we blew it. We blew it big time.

We can still make an impact however if we start seizing ways to use the media to our benefit and set the narrative. Going on Fox news and other RW entities is simply an invite to an ambush. We need our own media.

defacto7

(14,162 posts)
7. Is there a link to this Policy Project itself?
Tue Mar 4, 2025, 11:01 AM
Mar 2025

It would be nice to see the original. I'm not a member of Politicalwire.

Ms. Toad

(38,648 posts)
48. You don't have to be a member of Politicalwire to see the post.
Tue Mar 4, 2025, 02:19 PM
Mar 2025

Here is a link to polityproject - https://www.systemicpeace.org/polityproject.html . (The link was in the brief article from Political wire.) Have fun digging. My quick look tells me it will take longer than I have right now.

The only specific link to the United states returns a 404 error - I assume because the recent change and the page hasn't been updated.

The major media will probably have a deeper dive than I have time to do into the data more in a few days. There were major stories after US was downgraded to a fragile democracy in 2017, when you-know-who took office the first time.

Ms. Toad

(38,648 posts)
49. The in-depth news reports were a few days delayed in 2017
Tue Mar 4, 2025, 02:20 PM
Mar 2025

when we were downgraded to a fragile democracy. I expect there will be a report soon.

ColoradoHoosier

(40 posts)
13. Are we sure this isn't satire?
Tue Mar 4, 2025, 11:14 AM
Mar 2025

It sure reads like one of those that come out of a satirical site or podcast, then gets picked up by a legit outfit. I'm not finding this anywhere else. 40 years of this stuff has taught me to be cautious about things like this.
Ok, just saw the link, so it does seem legit, at least in the view of Polity

Hugin

(37,849 posts)
23. It's very real.
Tue Mar 4, 2025, 11:34 AM
Mar 2025

“NOTE: The USA dropped below the "democracy threshold" (+6) on the POLITY scale in 2020 and was considered an anocracy (+5) at the end of the year 2020; the USA score for 2021 returned to democracy (+8).
Beginning on 1 July 2024, due to the US Supreme Court ruling granting the US Presidency broad, legal immunity, the USA is noted by the Polity Project as experiencing a regime transition through, at least, 20 January 2025. As of the latter date, the USA is coded EXREC=8, "Competitive Elections"; EXCONST=1 "Unlimited Executive Authority"; and POLCOMP=6 "Factional/Restricted Competition." Polity scores: DEMOC=4; AUTOC=4; POLITY=0.

The USA is no longer considered a democracy and lies at the cusp of autocracy; it has experienced a Presidental Coup and an Adverse Regime Change event (8-point drop in its POLITY score).




From: https://www.systemicpeace.org/index.html

Ms. Toad

(38,648 posts)
50. Thanks!
Tue Mar 4, 2025, 02:22 PM
Mar 2025

I'd been looking for specific information about the change and didn't stumble onto that page. The site is not easy to navigate.

Oopsie Daisy

(6,670 posts)
17. This sounds like a nothingburger. Not much info at the Political Wire link and their link to Polity Project *
Tue Mar 4, 2025, 11:18 AM
Mar 2025

* just goes to what appears to be a catch-all landing page with no specific mention of the "downgrade" and no links to any documents or studies that support or justify the downgrade.

chia

(2,817 posts)
21. Here:
Tue Mar 4, 2025, 11:30 AM
Mar 2025
https://www.systemicpeace.org/index.html


NOTICE Regarding POLITY Project Updates

From 1994-2020, CSP/INSCR data resources, such as the Polity and Coups datasets, were generously supported with funding from the US Government (through our association with the Political Instability Task Force, PITF). That financial support was terminated on 29 February, 2020, after PITF consultant Michael D. Ward (d.) developed an algorithm for automated coding of polity scores (AI) for the PITF. This created a bit of a dilemma for further updates to the Polity data series. Updated scores would be used to compare, and verify, the automated scoring outputs. As such, further updates of Polity and other CSP/INSCR data resources are embargoed and/or delayed until a new funding mechanism is found and implemented.

NOTE: The USA dropped below the "democracy threshold" (+6) on the POLITY scale in 2020 and
was considered an anocracy (+5) at the end of the year 2020; the USA score for 2021 returned to democracy (+8).
Beginning on 1 July 2024, due to the US Supreme Court ruling granting the US Presidency broad, legal immunity,
the USA is noted by the Polity Project as experiencing a regime transition through, at least, 20 January 2025.
As of the latter date, the USA is coded EXREC=8, "Competitive Elections"; EXCONST=1 "Unlimited Executive Authority";
and POLCOMP=6 "Factional/Restricted Competition." Polity scores: DEMOC=4; AUTOC=4; POLITY=0.
The USA is no longer considered a democracy and lies at the cusp of autocracy; it has experienced a
Presidental Coup and an Adverse Regime Change event (8-point drop in its POLITY score).

Users of the Polity data series should be aware that Polity measures patterns of authority demonstrated and observed in political behaviors involving interaction events between and within state and non-state entities. Polity measures political practices rather than promises or proclamations. In 2016, CSP changed the coding for Political Competition in the USA to Factional Competition (i.e., POLCOMP=7); this coding change dropped the USA's POLITY score to +8. According to the PITF Global Model, this change to "factional competition" placed the USA at high risk of impending political instability (i.e., adverse regime change and/or onset of "systematic and sustained" political violence; possible worst case would be the "collapse of central authority" ). The CSP COUP dataset lists an "attempted coup" (COUP=2) for the USA on 6 January 2021 and a successful coup (COUP=1) on 20 January 2025.

NOTE: The Polity5 Regime Narrative for the United States identifies all Polity code changes and
covers the entire period since its date of independence in 1776 through early 2025.
For the full list of countries covered by Polity5 Regime Narratives click here.

Polity5 data through 2018 is available on the INSCR Data page.

Wiz Imp

(10,023 posts)
26. Its right on the home page of https://www.systemicpeace.org/index.html
Tue Mar 4, 2025, 11:46 AM
Mar 2025
NOTE: The USA dropped below the "democracy threshold" (+6) on the POLITY scale in 2020 and was considered an anocracy (+5) at the end of the year 2020; the USA score for 2021 returned to democracy (+8). Beginning on 1 July 2024, due to the US Supreme Court ruling granting the US Presidency broad, legal immunity, the USA is noted by the Polity Project as experiencing a regime transition through, at least, 20 January 2025. As of the latter date, the USA is coded EXREC=8, "Competitive Elections"; EXCONST=1 "Unlimited Executive Authority"; and POLCOMP=6 "Factional/Restricted Competition." Polity scores: DEMOC=4; AUTOC=4; POLITY=0. The USA is no longer considered a democracy and lies at the cusp of autocracy; it has experienced a Presidental Coup and an Adverse Regime Change event (8-point drop in its POLITY score).

Users of the Polity data series should be aware that Polity measures patterns of authority demonstrated and observed in political behaviors involving interaction events between and within state and non-state entities. Polity measures political practices rather than promises or proclamations. In 2016, CSP changed the coding for Political Competition in the USA to Factional Competition (i.e., POLCOMP=7); this coding change dropped the USA's POLITY score to +8. According to the PITF Global Model, this change to "factional competition" placed the USA at high risk of impending political instability (i.e., adverse regime change and/or onset of "systematic and sustained" political violence; possible worst case would be the "collapse of central authority&quot . The CSP COUP dataset lists an "attempted coup" (COUP=2) for the USA on 6 January 2021 and a successful coup (COUP=1) on 20 January 2025.


AloeVera

(4,266 posts)
28. Wow. So Trump's win is considered a " succesful coup".
Tue Mar 4, 2025, 11:55 AM
Mar 2025

I'd like to see their analysis and evidence. Seems like an important thing to throw out there.

AloeVera

(4,266 posts)
44. Welcome. I think it WAS a coup, though a slow-mo one.
Tue Mar 4, 2025, 01:36 PM
Mar 2025

Unfair voter laws, voter suppression, gerrymandering etc have made free and fair elections a thing of the past. It was a disaster in the making, in slo-mo and by increments but the large design was deliberate and methodical. Subversion of democracy, to maintain white power.

January 20, 2025 could be viewed as the successful culmination of all that.

Perhaps Polity sees it that way too. In any case their finding is very interesting indeed. I hope it gets some attention.

KPN

(17,379 posts)
55. Yep. Not to mention that Trump should have -- and would have in a healthy democracy -- been in prison a few years back.
Tue Mar 4, 2025, 03:32 PM
Mar 2025

Wiz Imp

(10,023 posts)
51. Joyce Vance explains it well here:
Tue Mar 4, 2025, 02:40 PM
Mar 2025
https://joycevance.substack.com/p/is-it-really-a-coup

Is It Really a Coup?

What we’ve seen over the last two weeks and accelerating over the weekend looks like a coup, a hostile, undemocratic takeover of government. Merriam-Webster says a coup is “a sudden decisive exercise of force in politics and especially the violent overthrow or alteration of an existing government by a small group.” No violence so far because this is a coup fueled by tech bros, not the military. But we’re watching the alteration of government happen before our eyes.

Historian Ruth Ben-Ghiat calls it “a new kind of coup,” writing in Lucid about Elon Musk’s seeming power sharing with Trump: “And here is where the U.S. 2025 situation starts to look different. The point of personalist rule is to reinforce the strongman. There is only room for one authoritarian leader at the top of the power vertical. Here there are two.” It is unusual, but it is still an effort to use extra-legal, undemocratic practices to radically alter American democracy, undoing the balance of power the Founding Fathers established between the three branches of government by consolidating power in the hands of the presidency as a complacent, Republican-led Congress looks on.

Monday night, Heather Cox Richardson started her nightly column by explaining that if Republicans wanted to do away with the U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID), the federal agency the Trump administration suddenly shuttered over the weekend, they could do that legally. Republicans now control the White House and Congress. There is a 6-3 majority of justices appointed by Republican presidents on the Supreme Court. But instead of doing it lawfully, with Congress passing a bill for Donald Trump to sign, Richardson writes, “They are permitting unelected billionaire Elon Musk, whose investment of $290 million in Trump and other Republican candidates in the 2024 election apparently has bought him freedom to run the government, to override Congress and enact whatever his own policies are by rooting around in government agencies and cancelling those programs that he, personally, dislikes.”

Richardson concluded: “The replacement of our constitutional system of government with the whims of an unelected private citizen is a coup. The U.S. president has no authority to cut programs created and funded by Congress, and a private citizen tapped by a president has even less standing to try anything so radical.”

{Snip}

Ms. Toad

(38,648 posts)
71. It isn't the win that is the coup.
Tue Mar 4, 2025, 10:25 PM
Mar 2025

It is the grab of executive power after inauguration.

AloeVera

(4,266 posts)
74. You could interpret it that way.
Tue Mar 4, 2025, 10:54 PM
Mar 2025

The wording used is "succesful coup on 20 January 2025".

I interpret it as his election being a coup. The culmination of years of effort to degrade democracy and fair elections, resulting in an illegitimate "winner".

Ms. Toad

(38,648 posts)
75. No. The election was on November 5.
Tue Mar 4, 2025, 11:00 PM
Mar 2025

On January 20, Trump took office and signed 24 executive orders - many of which claim power which the executive branch does not possess. That action is the coup.

If you read the information on polity project, they focus on actions - not promises. Anything prior to inauguration was just promises. The actions began on January 20, via the signing of executive orders.

Had they meant the election, they would have made the change on Nov 5, or shortly thereafter, not waited until he took office.

AloeVera

(4,266 posts)
78. Good points.
Tue Mar 4, 2025, 11:26 PM
Mar 2025

I took a longer view of how the coup was made possible, rather than the actual coup - which no doubt it is. And I forgot the EO's were signed on the 20th. So your argument makes good sense.

Ms. Toad

(38,648 posts)
79. I was surprised there were so few.
Tue Mar 4, 2025, 11:30 PM
Mar 2025

He had talked about 200 on day 1. There have been fewer than 100 so far - even though it seems like a whole lot more.

AloeVera

(4,266 posts)
80. 200 was just a nice bigly number to impress his cult.
Tue Mar 4, 2025, 11:44 PM
Mar 2025

If he underperformed, let's hope it continues. But the ones he has put through, and the whole Elon lunacy, Ukraine, the attack on Canada etc are bad enough.

wolfie001

(7,688 posts)
24. I can picture the wives of Roberts, Scrolito, Thomas all popping........
Tue Mar 4, 2025, 11:39 AM
Mar 2025

........a bottle of champagne over this news. Pigs all three. Abysmal hubbies too.

BlueTsunami2018

(4,992 posts)
25. ThAt'S bEcAuSe We'Re A rEpUbLiC!!!
Tue Mar 4, 2025, 11:41 AM
Mar 2025

Derpity derp.


I don’t know how we survive this.

Someone has to step up and do what needs to be done.

Justice matters.

(9,794 posts)
42. One "could" but I don't know "who" that one is
Tue Mar 4, 2025, 01:33 PM
Mar 2025

or *would* be.

The Brave in the Home is absent atm.

BarbD

(1,438 posts)
46. WE must find a way. There is no alternative.
Tue Mar 4, 2025, 01:58 PM
Mar 2025

We can't give up the ship. I absolutely refuse to surrender to these ass hole idiots.

reACTIONary

(7,169 posts)
30. For those who have a conspiratorial mind frame....
Tue Mar 4, 2025, 12:18 PM
Mar 2025
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polity_data_series

The Polity study was initiated in the late 1960s by Ted Robert Gurr and is now continued by Monty G. Marshall, one of Gurr's students. It was sponsored by the Political Instability Task Force (PITF) until February 2020.[9] The PITF is funded by the Central Intelligence Agency.[10]

The data series has been criticized for its methodology, Americentrism, and connections to the CIA. Seva Gunitsky, an assistant professor at the University of Toronto, stated that the data series was appropriate "for research that examines constraints on governing elites, but not for studying the expansion of suffrage over the nineteenth century".

Shipwack

(3,067 posts)
54. Ok, if all that is true (can't research right now)
Tue Mar 4, 2025, 03:23 PM
Mar 2025

Why would a CIA influenced, “Americacentric” institution declare us a non-democracy? You’d think they would declare the exact opposite…

🤔

unblock

(56,199 posts)
33. We are clearly not a democracy at this point.
Tue Mar 4, 2025, 12:42 PM
Mar 2025

Now, whether an election or two can restore our democracy is another question, it's not yet clear the fascists can keep power.

But they certainly have it now, and it's abundantly clear that their governing is not reflecting the will of the people.

They're pissing off even their own supporters and showing zero sign of being responsive to that. In fact, they're canceling town halls to avoid listening to their own constituents.

This is not a democracy.

hay rick

(9,611 posts)
39. I doubt that we can expect fair elections in 2026.
Tue Mar 4, 2025, 01:16 PM
Mar 2025

In that case, what's the best path forward?

hay rick

(9,611 posts)
45. My concerns are the people and the planet.
Tue Mar 4, 2025, 01:55 PM
Mar 2025

It is difficult to contend that American democracy has not already failed. If Kamala had won we would still be stuck with a parasitic oligarchical class of looters that exercises effective veto power over most legislation via a captive Supreme Court, the Senate filibuster hurdle, the ability to intimidate Congress with the unlimited spending unleashed by Citizens United, and their ability to frame the terms of public debate in both traditional and social media.

We need a good bulldozer, as opposed to the malignant bulldozer of Musk/Trump. I don't see a real democracy that serves the best interests of the people as a real option in the near future.

Marie Marie

(11,318 posts)
58. Well that ought to make his little mushroom stand at attention.
Tue Mar 4, 2025, 05:58 PM
Mar 2025

He is finally being recognized as one of those strong man dictators. he so greatly admires.

ReRe

(12,189 posts)
67. It's pretty bad when
Tue Mar 4, 2025, 09:47 PM
Mar 2025

an entire society is judged by one asshole and his people at the top.

Celerity

(54,448 posts)
68. data
Tue Mar 4, 2025, 10:00 PM
Mar 2025
https://www.systemicpeace.org/polity/P5UnitedStates2025.pdf







https://ash.harvard.edu/articles/from-crisis-to-action-turning-the-tide-on-democratic-erosion-through-organizing/

According to the Polity Project, an organization that ranks and categorizes governments worldwide, the U.S. government is classified as a “non-democracy” as of February 2025, a downgrade from its previous status as a democracy. In response to this decline, a panel of Harvard scholars convened last week for a webinar to discuss how civil society groups can protect and promote democracy in such times of crisis. The Polity Project’s assessment hinges on what it calls an executive coup — an attempt to concentrate all decision-making power within the executive branch. Erica Chenoweth, academic dean for faculty development and Frank Stanton Professor of the First Amendment at the Harvard Kennedy School (HKS), drew on this analysis to frame the discussion, highlighting the role of social mobilization and organizing in resisting democratic backsliding.

Recognizing the Urgency of this Moment

Building on the project’s classification of the United States as a non-democracy, Steven Levitsky, David Rockefeller Professor of Latin American Studies and professor of government at Harvard University, warned that aspects of the Trump administration reflect patterns of competitive authoritarianism, where freely elected officials consolidate power by stacking leadership positions with loyalists. “When competitive authoritarianism is executed in a systematic way, as we’ve begun to see in the last month, what it does is tilt the playing field against the opposition and in favor of the incumbent,” explained Levitsky.

Echoing concerns about the country’s trajectory, Cornell William Brooks, Hauser Professor of the Practice of Nonprofit Organizations and professor of the practice of public leadership and social justice at HKS, called this “an exceedingly dangerous moment in our republic.” He added that efforts to erase the country’s unique identity as a multiracial democracy signaled further erosion. Taken together, these dynamics create what Marshall Ganz, Rita E. Hauser Senior Lecturer in Leadership, Organizing, and Civil Society at HKS, described as a “rock-bottom moment.” He continued, “The thing about rock-bottom moments is that you realize that you cannot keep doing what you’ve been doing and expect an outcome that’s any different. Rock-bottom moments mean you must change; you must be open to change, and you must consider where we are.”

Strong Principles Power Effective Movements

To emerge from this rock-bottom moment, Ganz emphasized the necessity of coming together with a spirit of hope — without that, progress is impossible. He argued that before people power can be exercised, organizing must be grounded in a clearly defined cause and a set of shared values: “If you’re going to fight, you need to know what you’re fighting for…Those of us who share democratic values know that it’s challenging to bring people to the center of politics in a real way, but that’s what we have to do.” Building on Ganz’s assessment, Brooks expanded on the path forward. While Ganz highlighted the immaterial elements necessary for building a foundation for social mobilization, Brooks focused on the practical aspects of organizing, underscoring the need for a broad, diverse coalition of advocates. “In this moment, I want to suggest that we are going to need, more than we certainly have in recent memory, a kind of multivalent, multilingual, multigenerational form of advocacy,” he said. “Which is to say, we have to have advocacy at the grassroots.”

snip

ShazzieB

(22,612 posts)
73. Welll, this is depressing af!
Tue Mar 4, 2025, 10:49 PM
Mar 2025

Not that I wasn't depressed (and angry) enough already!

How I feel right now:


Beartracks

(14,609 posts)
77. Culmination of vast amounts of work from the southern Confederacy through the fascist Germans...
Tue Mar 4, 2025, 11:22 PM
Mar 2025

... all the way to today's oligarchs by way of the Kremlin. Playing the long game, buying up the media, pooh-poohing and demonizing those who warned about what they were doing, spreading vast amounts of disinformation, and then lucking into the most incredibly pliant, populist stooge.

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coprolite

(365 posts)
82. Several days after the Nov Election
Wed Mar 5, 2025, 12:25 AM
Mar 2025

I attended a book signing and lecture by Chris La Tray, Montana's Poet Laureate.

Chris a member of the Little Shell Tribe of Chippewa Indians, was sympathetic about the Harris' loss to Trump and reminded group about the long game.

It took the Little Shell Tribe a hundred and fifty years of lobbying Congress to finally fulfill Congress' obligation to set aside reservation lands that were promised to them in treaties.

His point, the democrats need to be in this for the long game, don't give up, keep pushing, one election are a time, always progress, even if it take awhile.

Beartracks

(14,609 posts)
83. Exactly why it's important to vote each time for the BEST candidate on the ballot.
Wed Mar 5, 2025, 12:34 AM
Mar 2025

That being the one who, even if not perfect in your eyes or all-in on your favorite issue, is at least pulling in the same direction that you want to go. Democrats, indeed all progressives and liberals and anyone who leans that way, need to employ relentless incrementalism at every opportunity.

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Initech

(108,788 posts)
84. Fuck you MAGA! Fuck you Fox! Fuck you Trump! You brought this craziness on us!
Wed Mar 5, 2025, 12:37 AM
Mar 2025

May you all rot in the hottest of hells for this!

Joinfortmill

(21,188 posts)
86. I'm screaming into the wind of a political hurricane....
Wed Mar 5, 2025, 08:30 AM
Mar 2025

DEMOCRATIC CONGRESS, STAND UP TO THE RUSSIAN ASSET, KRASNOV.
Daily press conferences would be helpful. Just saying. DO F*CKING SOMETHING USEFUL!

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