Ontario Liquor Stores website - current splash screen...

[SidDithers]

That's a shit ton of Kentucky bourbon and California wines that won't be sold by the one of the biggest alcohol buyers in the world.

Sid

[kerouac2]

1. Can't trust them Canadadians

[jeffreyi]

2. Well I guess Tequila is off the menu now, too.

[LuvLoogie]

37. Just in time for Cinco de Gringo

No cerveza for you, pendejos.

[purrmaid]

49. Tequila is made in Mexico

Buy directly from the original makers.

[DBoon]

51. You can't call it Tequila unless it is from Mexico

It is called "Agave Liquor" if it comes from Texas or California

[Fix The Stupid]

3. It's a start...

We will be doing the same in our business.

But whatever happens tomorrow or the next day, or the next month or the next year...one thing is certain...

We will NEVER trust the USA again. Over anything. This relationship is over...time to move on....

We need Mexico, Canada, the EU, China and India to come together, sign a massive trade deal and go from there.

Once more for the hard of hearing:

We will NEVER trust the USA or the americans again.

[synni]

4. You can't blame all Americans

These are the actions of a very few. If a normal, decent leader is elected in the future, he or she will do their best to restore relationships with other countries.

[BannonsLiver]

15. I could go on and on about how

It starts with running everything through a focus group and cowing to special interest groups who have no real political power beyond social media bullying.

[BarbD]

16. Blaming the victim is not productive.

Playing the blame game is not helpful. Let's stay in the moment and concentrate on the current horrific reality. We need to take something out of the playbook of Navalny and how he led the Russians, the Civil Rights movement in the 1960's, and all those who fought for freedom and justice in the past.

[h2ebits]

46. Best comment on this thread. Thanks!

[Paladin]

18. You had my support with your post no.3, and you lost it with your post no.6.

In the unlikely event that I want indiscriminate Democrat-bashing, I'll rely on the dipshits at the NY Times opinion section---they're got a lot more experience at it than you do.

[SidDithers]

9. Restore relations, until the next time America elects a madman...

Sorry - but the trust is broken. The relationship might never be repaired.

America used to be a nation that honoured it's agreements. If previously negotiated trade agreements can be scrapped on a whim by the President, why would any nation ever enter into, and expect to be bound by, an agreement ever again.

Canada supplies mostly raw materials and energy to the US, and buys mostly finished goods.

We can buy finished goods elsewhere. We can sell raw materials elsewhere.

Good luck finding new suppliers for the energy, minerals, lumber and fertilizer you need, when no other nation trusts you to honour your agreement or pay your bills.

Sid

[Sky Jewels]

32. I don't blame you at all. I support your actions.

Trump elected once? Okay, he was defeated. Maybe that was temporary insanity. We regained some world respect.
Trump elected twice? Forget it. The USA is over. Flush twice and move on.
(I'm an American citizen.)

[ck4829]

13. That is talk, we need to walk the walk

We need to come out against the very legitimacy of Trump and Republicans.

[BannonsLiver]

14. That's not going to work.

People can and will and I don’t blame them one bit.

[whopis01]

23. You don't have to blame all Americans to not trust America

Sure, a normal, decent leader will do their best to restore relationships. But the world knows that could change drastically in another 4 years. Why would they have any long-term trust in America?

[SidDithers]

25. Exactly...nt

Sid

[Hekate]

24. We elected a normal decent leader & he did very well indeed. Then we ditched him at the last minute

Then 1/2 of the people who bothered to vote, voted for an insane man who told us exactly what he planned to do.
Some of his pals even wrote a playbook called Project 2025.
And surprise surprise, he & they are doing it.

At this point, the country is an absolutely untrustworthy ally to foreign nations, and in order to protect themselves they must make plans that take that reality into account. I hope they do that — the trump admin is run by dangerous people.

When Joe Biden was elected he went to Europe and said, “We’re back. “ The response he got was a clear-eyed, “Yes, but for how long? “

This is who we are now.

[SunSeeker]

36. "Yes, but for how long?"

I remember that. It was chilling. I remember thinking, wow, Europe is so pessimistic. Surely Americans won't make the same mistake again.

Alas, we did.

Europe appears to know us better than we know ourselves.

[Cirsium]

43. No choice

These are the actions of a very few is always the case. So what? actions of a very few supported by the multitude, in many ways obvious and not so obvious.

I am reminded of a passage from the diary of a resistance leader in Berlin during WWII. One morning in 1945 they woke up to see Red Army tanks and soldiers in a nearby park. One of the resistance members knew Russian, so the two of them walked down to talk to the soldiers.

A dozen soldiers were sitting around a makeshift fire making tea.

"Hello. We are the anti-Nazi resistance."

The soldiers all looked up and there was a long moment of silence. Then they broke out in raucous laughter.

Finally one of the soldiers spoke up. "No, no. Excuse me miss, sorry, but we are the anti-Nazi resistance."

[BrianTheEVGuy]

52. Parallels to another story

There is a term that history has assigned to those who didn’t really support Nazi ideas but held their nose and supported Hitler because they feared the communists, were worried about tax policy, or needed to protect their economic interests.

That term is “Nazi.”

[ck4829]

12. Can't blame you. There is something seriously wrong with Americans, something broken

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Not all, but too many.

[OldBaldy1701E]

38. I have to laugh when I see that 'something' in such phrases.

IT is not unknown. There is no 'shadow cabinet' or anything that is causing this.

It is called unfettered capitalism. It is called greed. It is called entitlement.

It is the fact that the US would rather do this than face their own evils. We would rather burn everything down that stop and say, "We were wrong about this 'business model as a societal model' crap and now we have to change."

But, we won't.

[wolfie001]

41. Stupid racist voters that can't see past their nose

I have 5 brothers and 1 sister. All trumpers. An occasional text. I want them out of my life.

[OldBaldy1701E]

50. They don't want to. (n/t)

[Dan]

20. I've been listening to a couple songs lately.

Forever Young by Rod Stewart - speaks to innocence , hope and the future.

Canadians we are truly going through dark times here in America - but there will be light at the end of this tunnel (hopefully not a train).
Don’t know how or when we will get there - but we will.
1/3 of our Countrymen are filled with hate and intolerance - and most of them are not sure how they caught that disease. I am thinking that FOX news and the Murdoch family have a lot to do with it.
I don’t know what the cure will be - but maybe, pain and suffering has to be part of it.
Do what you have to do - and if that means, quit drinking American whisky or whiskey, then do so. And if that means, shut down the power so that we don’t have power, then turn out the lights.

And then there is the second song

Forever Young by Alphaville - what we are going through now, we have a madman at the controls.

[Girard442]

44. I've lived in the USA my whole life. I feel the same way.

[Solly Mack]

5. You do have a crazy neighbor, best to protect yourself.

[MichMan]

7. I thought they removed them from the stores a few weeks ago ?

[SidDithers]

8. They held off when Trump put a 30 day pause on tariffs at the end of January...nt

Sid

[John1956PA]

10. The conglomeration of whiskey producers is interesting.

I realize that my post is a bit off-topic, but I am throwing it out, in part, to share my modest knowledge on the subject, and perhaps to learn a bit more.

First off, I have to mention that I smile when I think of the variance in the spelling of the alcohol beverage. In the U.S. it is spelled "whiskey" whereas in Canada it is spelled "whisky."

For reasons partly sentimental and partly cultural (I have Canadian relatives), I prefer Canadian whisky. There is a multitude of varieties of such. Here in Pennsylvania, we have the "State Store" system which provides the only means to purchase whiskey/whisky in person. The local store offers a reasonable variety of sections. All of the "Canadian whisky" offerings are bottled in the U.S., mostly by the Beam company which is owned by the Japanese business conglomerate Suntory. The bottled "Canadian whisky" products start off as whisky which is distilled and placed in barrels at Canadian distilleries. The whisky in the barrels is aged for the aporopriate length of time. After aging, the whisky is shipped to the American bottling facilities, such as Beam in Kentucky. The bottled Canadian whisky is what is referred to as a "blended" whisky. The contents of the bottles derive from multiple batches of distillation. Flavorings, colorings, and pure alcohol are also common ingredients.

I do not know how much of an increase in the price of a bottle Canadian Whisky sold at the local State Store will result from the Trump tarriffs. I am thinking that the price of a bottle of inexpensive Canadian whisky may rise from $17 to $20.

As for the Canadian bourbon drinkers, I do not think they will be crying in their drinks. They can modify their drinking preference. Their country provides a plethora of delictible rye whiskys. Some of the smaller distilleries which produce those rye whiskys are Canadian owned, but most of the large Canadian distilleriers are owned by world-wide conglomerates.

[BarbD]

19. Thanks for the information on how so many are connected.

Knowledge is power.

[Bev54]

29. The Ontario liquor board are the largest purchaser

Of Kentucky bourbon in the world. Because most provinces have a board that buys the liquor for the stores to sell, it makes it easy to pull all US liquor from stores and restaurants and it is immediate. I am waiting till after the premiers meeting being held in about an hour, what else will come. If we charge surcharges on our energy, including oil and electricity it is going to hurt the American people, I just don’t think most people realize how much the US relies on our energy. We can sell our potash anywhere in the world, do Americans realize that Trump will then buy potash from Russia? You know a trusted trade partner. Trudeau finally came out and said it. Trump is trying to kill the Canadian economy to feed his dream of annexing us.

[Timeflyer]

11. Good. Consequences when US threatens a sovereign country.

[Justice matters.]

17. And the democratic world (what's left of it, althouh still big) is watching...

and decides (like adults do): No More Intel cooperation.

No more Article 5 for the USA (might as well ditch NATO and form a new alliance without the USA in it).

[superpatriotman]

21. Make bootlegging great again

I'm investing in jugs with XXX printed on them .

[bronxiteforever]

26. Sid I can't blame you or Canadians

It is totally appropriate and proper. Our President completely disrespected your people, government and country. He is screwing around with the best neighbors in the world because he is a prick. I say our president not because he holds any affection in my heart but he was elected this last time by Americans. Many chose to not even vote.

Redemption is a feature of nations as well as individual lives. So don’t close off completely. And yes there is something sickening about my country. Let us hope, for it is a good thing to hope, that this will pass with limited damage to people’s lives. But any insults and distance we get from Canadians is well earned.

[RockRaven]

27. Good for them, acting as they should.

And as their customers would want them to -- it's the free market at work.

[William769]

28. Life is good again my dear brother.

[dalton99a]

30. Kick

[AmericaUnderSiege]

31. Would be more effective if they blamed the real culprit instead of "US."

Just sayin'.

[VGNonly]

33. Dump Canadian booze.

Buy 100xxx US Made Sour Mashed Freedom Fries Ken-tuck Moonshine!

[Bernardo de La Paz]

35. You don't think Canada is the victim of tRump? Why do you want to punish Canada? What did Canada do to you?

[VGNonly]

39. It was simply a joke.

I forgot the sarcasm thingy,

[LiberalLovinLug]

34. As a Canadian, I know you'all on DU are not for this crazy tarrif war

But...
Our anger is not just with the Trump administration. And the brainwashed delusional Americans that voted for him.

Its also for the lacklustre opposition. l won't isolate the Democratic party, because I may get in trouble, so I'll just say the opposition. That includes other organizations, and the news media. '
Always a couple of years behind. It took until the last year of Biden's presidency to even use the word "lie" against Republicans.The word "Fascism" is still being shushed.

Its like if UFOs actually were real. And they kept that secret under wraps because it would upset people too much. Cause panic in the streets. The older establishment fears upsetting the apple cart to the point of paralysis. Meanwhile, the other party has not only dumped over the apple cart, but is stomping them into mush and laughing about it.

He should be called a traitor and a huge threat to national security by the most prominent opposition voices out there. And the MSM. Why is Kamala now silent? She got almost half the votes. She can speak for the half that is sane. Until another leader emerges. Is she being told to be quiet? I don 't get it. And Canadians don't understand, and are pissed, that opposition seems to be shockingly slow and tepid about handing your democracy over to tyrants who adore dictatorships.

[Keepthesoulalive]

42. Please leave former vice president Harris out of this

Our media is compromised and anything she says will not be heard properly, it will create a shit storm and nothing will be accomplished. We are organizing at the local level but this will take time. We are with you. I think what he is doing is called blitzkrieg, it takes time to gear up and fight back.

[LiberalLovinLug]

53. Why leave Kamala out of it?

I guess I'm speaking from a country, Canada, that has a parliamentary democracy, so I understand it is different. Here any primary winner of a party who goes on to come in second in federal election, remains in parliament as leader of the opposition. And is the face and voice of the opposition to the ruling government.

In the US that voice moves to the minority leaders of both houses.

To me that is a problem. No matter how charming Schumer or Jeffries are when they do get some air time. Maybe its the word "minority" built into their job title.

Fact is Kamala got almost 50% of the American vote. Half of Americans were good with her leading the country in the highest office. They didn't just not want her and her optimistic campaign message a day after the election.

I wish she would have taken a week to recover, then did the rounds in media reminding people, even if it was just the 50% that voted for her, of what was coming with Trump. To say goodbye to child care and small business credits she had planned. And get ready for chaos and pain and reassure the rest of us how we will all get through what was coming. Her and the party, could have used those two months to set up a national peoples resistance movement, or something like that.

Maybe even taken a page out of Trump's book and held more rallies despite losing. Keep showing positivity and optimism around her party. Keep reminding folks of things they now will lose and what they could have had, and could have in the future if they work to elect Democrats next time. Keep the energy going to start organizing for 2026 with a big head start.

[Keepthesoulalive]

55. The media will crucify her

Her message will not get through. The media sane washed that horrid speech asshole gave. She gave a speech at the NAACP and the people on DU criticized her for not having a strong enough message. Nothing good can come from her stepping into the limelight again other than to start another pie fight.

[h2ebits]

47. Your points are well taken. . . .

I don't understand the silence and slow moving action to all of what is happening either.

The actions that have been taken and continue to be taken by Trump and his band of corrupted officials (and Un-officials like Elon Musk) has me in such a state of anxiety that I'm literally sick to my stomach.

It is truly time for all of us to rise up and "be the people we are waiting for."

[Ms. Toad]

54. I understand not trusting a country that put such a malignant narcistic jerk in the presidency not once, but twice.

But the lack of an organized opposition is the culmination of a perfect storm.

Trump, on his own, is too incompetent to carry out a fraction of what he was spouting off about.
Project 2025 was out there - but Trump, on his own, is too incompetent to carry it out
Trump is generally too egotistical to let anyone else run the show

Those three things suggested that even if others wanted to implement Project 2025, it was likely to happen at a slow pace with lots of internal squabbling and pushback from Trump who doesn't like to be told what to do.

Enter Musk - who enjoys being a bull in a China shop - and who, for some reason, Trump is enthralled with enough to let Musk run the show.

Musk, combined with the authors of Project 2025 is a much more dangerous prospect than Trump, alone.

They came in, on day 1, with executive orders drafted, and relatively secret plans about how they were going to get around the safeguards.

We have some organizations that have specific interests that were keyed up to fight specific pieces of Project 2025 - and they are working - witness all of the litigation that started almost immediately.

The problem is that the mechanisms by which much of the chaos has been implemented are completely unexpected - with no organization specifically geared up to fight it - and with a Republican congress unwilling to stand up to Trump, no clear legal mechanism for others to wrest control of the purse strings back (since it belongs to Congress).

And - most of us are just overwhelmed into inaction, or ineffective action because it is like trying to drink from not just a fire hydrant, but from Niagara Falls.

The things that has shocked me is how quickly everyone folded because they are terrified of falling into the spotlight as the target of Trump's ire. He is so blatantly punishing anyone who speaks up - threatening impeachment of judges, withholding funding to Main, etc. But even before that, my University took down the Pride flags immediately - not even a peep - even without anything beyond the day 1 executive order. News media has softened any criticism of him - even last night's fact checking by organizations that used to be brutal soft pedaled their fact-checking. And on and on.

I get how it looks from outside - and how impossible it probably is for you to truly understand what it is like to be inside this hurricane.

[Initech]

40. I hate this timeline we're in. Seriously.

Can we go back to the one where Harris wins, please?

[maspaha]

45. Thanks, Mitch!

Couldn’t happen to a poorer state!
Well done!

[standingtall]

48. I don't blame Canada for retaliating

but the sad thing is the location of where a good chunk if not more than 50% of the parts of Kentucky where bourbon plants are located in are in Democratic areas that didn't vote for Trump in a deep red State. Like certainly Louisville and I think Frankfort too. Will be interesting to see how this plays out. Will they blame Trump? Will they blame Canada? Or will they blame the Democratic Governor? Although I will point out it's unlikely Kentucky has a Democratic Governor 2 years from now. Maybe this will cause increased voter turnout in the Louisville Metro area in upcoming elections due to anger and even cause softer republican areas in Kentucky to flip.