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NameAlreadyTaken

(2,273 posts)
Wed Mar 5, 2025, 11:39 PM Mar 2025

Will Elon's coup succeed or fail?

And why?

I think it's doomed to fail even if it nominally "succeeds," because where is he going to find people with the expertise to run all these specific functions in government? Is he going to use AI to run it? Will it be a "self-driving" sort of government? How is he going to implement his wild fantasy of a techno corporatocracy? He doesn't even know how anything works in government. What if it all crashes like one of his self-driving cars? Then what?

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Will Elon's coup succeed or fail? (Original Post) NameAlreadyTaken Mar 2025 OP
Stay tuned luvallpeeps Mar 2025 #1
Musk's goal is to destroy the US govt. Irish_Dem Mar 2025 #2
It will fail malaise Mar 2025 #3
100%, Techno Fascism is literally JCMach1 Mar 2025 #8
It's already failed in my opinion... Hugin Mar 2025 #10
This is one of the deepest dives on what is going on with Musk and the Techno Fascists JCMach1 Mar 2025 #11
Good resource. n/t Hugin Mar 2025 #12
People talk about the need for a shadow government and my prayer Alice B. Mar 2025 #13
Dems need to lay it out and call it Restore America... JCMach1 Mar 2025 #22
And they need to speak directly and honestly to us. Alice B. Mar 2025 #23
The WankPanzer or the Bettie Mar 2025 #17
Bwaaah malaise Mar 2025 #18
I was told (and laughed hard at that point) that WankPanzer Bettie Mar 2025 #19
There's also... Hugin Mar 2025 #20
Oh, I like that one too Bettie Mar 2025 #21
It depends whether the institutions hold or not. Mr. Sparkle Mar 2025 #4
It has already succeeded Buckeyeblue Mar 2025 #5
Yes, the more he succeeds the more the system Johonny Mar 2025 #6
I don't know but I hope he and it fails miserably Meowmee Mar 2025 #7
Depends upon what you mean... Happy Hoosier Mar 2025 #9
I think the longer it goes on JustAnotherGen Mar 2025 #14
To whatever degree, it will succeed. elocs Mar 2025 #15
Fail XanaDUer2 Mar 2025 #16

JCMach1

(29,147 posts)
8. 100%, Techno Fascism is literally
Thu Mar 6, 2025, 09:04 AM
Mar 2025

Libertarian masturbatory fantasy.

The first parts, destroy the government and destroy democracy are doable. We are halfway there already.

The part that delves into fantasy is where everyone rolls over for the serfdom part. Good luck with that Elon.

Hugin

(37,624 posts)
10. It's already failed in my opinion...
Thu Mar 6, 2025, 09:11 AM
Mar 2025

Mostly due to the reasons you cited.

The damage has been done though. I don’t see the glass putting itself back together any time soon. Every response I see is reactionary and without direction.

Alice B.

(722 posts)
13. People talk about the need for a shadow government and my prayer
Thu Mar 6, 2025, 12:20 PM
Mar 2025

Has been that one is established and prepares for an emergency/disaster response when the adults regain control (adults regaining control is part of the prayer, too before anyone if’s me).

JCMach1

(29,147 posts)
22. Dems need to lay it out and call it Restore America...
Thu Mar 6, 2025, 01:58 PM
Mar 2025

And Leadership needs to catch on quick about Techno Fascism.

This isn't Grandpa's GOP

Alice B.

(722 posts)
23. And they need to speak directly and honestly to us.
Thu Mar 6, 2025, 06:44 PM
Mar 2025

As for Techno Fascism , the absolute soullessness and absence of any kind of ... well, good.... in it, is really hard to comprehend.

Bettie

(19,448 posts)
19. I was told (and laughed hard at that point) that WankPanzer
Thu Mar 6, 2025, 12:46 PM
Mar 2025

is the term for the truck-thing and that Swasticar is only for the car version!

Terminology is important!

Buckeyeblue

(6,283 posts)
5. It has already succeeded
Thu Mar 6, 2025, 08:22 AM
Mar 2025

We found out how fragile the infrastructure of our government actually is.

We should be disrupting the disruptors. I think the only way to beat Trump is to create more chaos than he does.

People are trying to find order to his chaos. It just makes him stronger.

You must fight chaos with more chaos.

Johonny

(25,769 posts)
6. Yes, the more he succeeds the more the system
Thu Mar 6, 2025, 08:57 AM
Mar 2025

Will fail. Musk is creating a disaster thar will cost a lot to fix.

DOGE will lose 100 billions before it is over.

Meowmee

(9,212 posts)
7. I don't know but I hope he and it fails miserably
Thu Mar 6, 2025, 09:02 AM
Mar 2025

So far it is not looking good at all. Why anyone is listening to them, they have no authority, is what I don't understand. Apparently this is really just a nation of cowards now to be blown over by the slightest wind. I can't say here what I really wish would happen. May they all get what they deserve.

Happy Hoosier

(9,446 posts)
9. Depends upon what you mean...
Thu Mar 6, 2025, 09:07 AM
Mar 2025

Ultimately, he'll be kicked to the curb. He's just too much of an asshole with no actual ability to lead.

But he will succeed in trashing the economy, which was probably hs actual goal, since he'll snap up a ton of assets at fire sale prices.

 

elocs

(24,486 posts)
15. To whatever degree, it will succeed.
Thu Mar 6, 2025, 12:39 PM
Mar 2025

But the United States of America will never be the same again. Our allies don't trust us anymore and have formed new trade relations. We will be a pariah with nukes. So Musk wins.

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