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surfered

(7,901 posts)
Fri Mar 7, 2025, 11:51 AM Mar 2025

I won't be posting as much on DU due to the Trump Administration recommendations.

Last edited Fri Mar 7, 2025, 06:14 PM - Edit history (2)



Due to the new tariffs, I'm taking the White House Press Secretary's advice and raise chickens in my back yard and also a cow. Plus, I must now grow my own timber, plant avocado trees, make my own tequila, build my own car...etc. I’m just too busy!
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I won't be posting as much on DU due to the Trump Administration recommendations. (Original Post) surfered Mar 2025 OP
Whiskey should be cheap for a while. Baitball Blogger Mar 2025 #1
I've been wondering about that. TomSlick Mar 2025 #53
I have a shed that used to be a chicken coop in the back yard. I also have a huge coyote, so no chickens. patphil Mar 2025 #2
I'd like to buy some tequila mzmolly Mar 2025 #3
Can you do some drug and medicine research in your spare time? newdeal2 Mar 2025 #4
Maybe we need some division of labor here... GopherGal Mar 2025 #6
Don't forget to grow cotton, raise some silkworms, buy a loom and a spinning wheel, to make your own clothing. Solly Mack Mar 2025 #5
LOL Escurumbele Mar 2025 #20
We have a spinning wheel and a loom WestMichRad Mar 2025 #32
You're ahead already. Solly Mack Mar 2025 #39
.................. bdamomma Mar 2025 #49
and load my own ammo. .... nt Hotler Mar 2025 #7
Yes, will more than likely need to do that. hadEnuf Mar 2025 #24
LOL!! Me Too!! TomJulie Mar 2025 #25
That's much, much easier than making tequila. nt Shermann Mar 2025 #60
I will be buying California wine. The Madcap Mar 2025 #8
Generator Maninacan Mar 2025 #9
I know you're kidding, but that is actually the plan in a nutshell... Wounded Bear Mar 2025 #10
Even tho Russia Boy has literally never done a single thing for himself in his life. AmericaUnderSiege Mar 2025 #11
He couldn't operate a Swiss Army knife. n/t Harker Mar 2025 #14
Nor would he touch a foreign implement. AmericaUnderSiege Mar 2025 #16
Nah, catalog paper will do, unless WhiteTara Mar 2025 #33
You misunderstand the tarrifs. Now you must post 25% more often, or increase the length of the posts by that much ... Intractable Mar 2025 #12
This is literally the worst administration in US history! Initech Mar 2025 #13
And stupid Americans and emboldened Nazis with a hat tip to racists and misogynists. MLAA Mar 2025 #21
Bwaaaah malaise Mar 2025 #15
distill my own whiskey, make my own tequila NotHardly Mar 2025 #17
I have many seeds and can grow many strains. OldBaldy1701E Mar 2025 #34
I need to figure out which neighbors have avocado trees tishaLA Mar 2025 #18
I have a friend who lives in an apartment building in New York Escurumbele Mar 2025 #19
I have five acres here in Florida. markodochartaigh Mar 2025 #22
Not to worry. True Blue American Mar 2025 #30
Lots of Danascot Mar 2025 #61
I'll drink to that! n/t Jacson6 Mar 2025 #23
What are you going to drink??? True Blue American Mar 2025 #29
Don't forget the avocados and coffee beans! Lulu KC Mar 2025 #26
I can see a black market on the horizon because of these idiots. Dave Bowman Mar 2025 #27
You will be a busy deed. True Blue American Mar 2025 #28
Sadly, most folks do not understand that many communities have ordinances against raising chickens, etc, in city limits. usaf-vet Mar 2025 #31
Get Crackin' YepYep Mar 2025 #35
They got dirt to scratch and eggs to lay. Swede Mar 2025 #36
How do you grow your own coffee beans in Ohio Diamond_Dog Mar 2025 #37
"How do you grow your own coffee beans in Ohio" BumRushDaShow Mar 2025 #40
Wow, thanks, BumRushDaShow! Diamond_Dog Mar 2025 #41
Treat the tea camellia the same way BumRushDaShow Mar 2025 #43
Make sure you save that avocado pit BumRushDaShow Mar 2025 #38
I remember growing those in elementary school! Diamond_Dog Mar 2025 #42
I definitely remember doing that too BumRushDaShow Mar 2025 #44
works better to just gently place the pit back in the peel and set it in a pot of clean soil Kali Mar 2025 #45
Yup. BumRushDaShow Mar 2025 #46
VERY nice, BumRush! calimary Mar 2025 #51
Also we can cut way down on our shopping time now FakeNoose Mar 2025 #47
Rural America - 1870s 3825-87867 Mar 2025 #48
I built a time machine! And ... usonian Mar 2025 #50
You can tell your grandkids that people voted a long time ago. taxi Mar 2025 #52
No more eggs for one neigborhood in Bellingham pat_k Mar 2025 #54
I'm already planting spark plugs and gas filters to start my car parts farm struggle4progress Mar 2025 #55
Junk is gonna be a natural resouce again! Mopar151 Mar 2025 #58
DUzy worthy 🏆🏅 live love laugh Mar 2025 #56
Does his chicken pronouncement Old Crank Mar 2025 #57
Don't forget you have to dig 3500 feet for potash applegrove Mar 2025 #59
Tip. If you need firewood wait until your MAGA neighbor with a woooden deck goes shopping. twodogsbarking Mar 2025 #62

TomSlick

(12,590 posts)
53. I've been wondering about that.
Fri Mar 7, 2025, 09:57 PM
Mar 2025

Will the loss of the Canadian (and maybe Mexican) market cause a glut of bourbon and Tennessee whiskey sufficient to cause prices to come down in the US?

On the other side, I've been drinking more since the inauguration and suspect other have too. It may all balance out.

patphil

(8,087 posts)
2. I have a shed that used to be a chicken coop in the back yard. I also have a huge coyote, so no chickens.
Fri Mar 7, 2025, 12:00 PM
Mar 2025

I tolerate the coyote because he keeps the deer and groundhogs in check. Otherwise the deer and groundhogs would reek havoc on my gardens.
It's a symbiotic relationship.
The timber part I've got a lot of, but no still yet.

newdeal2

(3,368 posts)
4. Can you do some drug and medicine research in your spare time?
Fri Mar 7, 2025, 12:04 PM
Mar 2025

You’ll need to create your own vaccines in the near future.

GopherGal

(2,533 posts)
6. Maybe we need some division of labor here...
Fri Mar 7, 2025, 12:16 PM
Mar 2025

The chicken eggs are needed for producing vaccines. So we need large numbers in poultry farming.

But the new technology in vaccine production is genetically engineered vaccines produced via cell culture. So maybe some of us should study up on microbiology, genetics, cell culture, etc...

Solly Mack

(95,282 posts)
5. Don't forget to grow cotton, raise some silkworms, buy a loom and a spinning wheel, to make your own clothing.
Fri Mar 7, 2025, 12:15 PM
Mar 2025

WestMichRad

(2,397 posts)
32. We have a spinning wheel and a loom
Fri Mar 7, 2025, 02:20 PM
Mar 2025

… so we have that covered. And friends raise sheep, so we have some fiber, too. (Unfortunately our bunny died last year, so she’s no longer a fiber contributor.)

bdamomma

(68,811 posts)
49. ..................
Fri Mar 7, 2025, 06:03 PM
Mar 2025

I thought we said, We are not going back!!!! How things change in what 7 weeks. he's breaking apart the US for Putin, to save his ass.

TomJulie

(128 posts)
25. LOL!! Me Too!!
Fri Mar 7, 2025, 02:02 PM
Mar 2025

I have a XL650 Dillon progressive press and dies for 45 acp and 9 mm. Reloading used to be cheap. Not any more. It's been a few years since I've reloaded anything but I have a few lbs of Winchester powder, several hundred primers and a ton of cases if and when I decide to start again.

Maninacan

(156 posts)
9. Generator
Fri Mar 7, 2025, 12:27 PM
Mar 2025

I have enough solid copper pennies to draw down into wire for a generator!
My coworker Bob built Model A Hot Rods. I always joked that if you dropped him in a remote area He would build a Model A and drive it out in a couple of years.

Wounded Bear

(62,508 posts)
10. I know you're kidding, but that is actually the plan in a nutshell...
Fri Mar 7, 2025, 12:45 PM
Mar 2025

They want to put us all in survivor mode so we don't have time to oppose them.

Most men live lives of quiet desperation...Thoreau

 

AmericaUnderSiege

(777 posts)
11. Even tho Russia Boy has literally never done a single thing for himself in his life.
Fri Mar 7, 2025, 01:06 PM
Mar 2025

We now need to distill our own water and manufacture our own toilet paper.

 

AmericaUnderSiege

(777 posts)
16. Nor would he touch a foreign implement.
Fri Mar 7, 2025, 01:16 PM
Mar 2025

He would just hire an undocumented 6-year-old from Guatemala to operate it for 5 cents an hour, then have him deported to avoid paying it.

WhiteTara

(30,947 posts)
33. Nah, catalog paper will do, unless
Fri Mar 7, 2025, 02:22 PM
Mar 2025

there are no more catalogs. I was thinking newspaper, but those have gone to the wayside as well.

Intractable

(1,145 posts)
12. You misunderstand the tarrifs. Now you must post 25% more often, or increase the length of the posts by that much ...
Fri Mar 7, 2025, 01:09 PM
Mar 2025

all while feeding your family and neighbors with eggs from your own chickens.

Initech

(105,647 posts)
13. This is literally the worst administration in US history!
Fri Mar 7, 2025, 01:12 PM
Mar 2025

Worst House ever, worst Senate ever, worst SCOTUS ever, worst president ever! All of this brought to us by Fox News and the Heritage Foundation.

MLAA

(19,347 posts)
21. And stupid Americans and emboldened Nazis with a hat tip to racists and misogynists.
Fri Mar 7, 2025, 01:34 PM
Mar 2025

NotHardly

(2,127 posts)
17. distill my own whiskey, make my own tequila
Fri Mar 7, 2025, 01:21 PM
Mar 2025

I know how to do both of those and make beer. Too bad for the rest of you.

tishaLA

(14,676 posts)
18. I need to figure out which neighbors have avocado trees
Fri Mar 7, 2025, 01:24 PM
Mar 2025

Thankfully I'm in SoCal so that's a real possibility, but guacamole is going to be a precious resource

Escurumbele

(3,832 posts)
19. I have a friend who lives in an apartment building in New York
Fri Mar 7, 2025, 01:32 PM
Mar 2025

He took his two sons out of their bedroom, they will be sleeping on the sofa in the living room. He is converting their bedroom into a chicken coop, leaving space for a cow in case meat suffers the same consequences as the eggs have. He expects that other families from the building (52 apartments) will follow in this great idea to make eggs great again.

They are planning to take to the board the idea of getting a bull if they have to get a cow so that they can have calf, and as the calf become cows they can eat the mother and thus solve the problem with meat, and so on.

Of course this is BS that I am making up, but it shows how stupid the woman (I don't even know her name) idea about having people buy chickens is. It is a typical idea that comes from an entitled narcissist who has always lived in a house with plenty of land and cannot bring into her brain the fact that many people live in apartments and they cannot have chickens, or maids to handle the chickens.

Something else this stupid woman doesn't know is the fact that chicken coops usually attract rats, imagine New York which is already a heaven for rats and mice. Some people claim that as long as you keep the coop clean the rats won't come, but that is almost an impossibility. I have a friend who setup a chicken coop in his backyard, this guy is as clean as you can get, he built it and its like a castle where now live his chickens and the rats he is constantly trying to get rid of.

markodochartaigh

(3,343 posts)
22. I have five acres here in Florida.
Fri Mar 7, 2025, 01:44 PM
Mar 2025

But between the panthers, bears, coyotes, bobcats, raccoons, hawks, and Florida Man, protecting the chickens would be a full-time job. And as for avocados, an invasive Asian beetle is killing avocado trees across the state. I'm sure that the government programs to control this pest will soon be defunded.

True Blue American

(18,571 posts)
30. Not to worry.
Fri Mar 7, 2025, 02:16 PM
Mar 2025

Trump is going to make you work for your Medicaid. You would not have time to fry the chickens.

Danascot

(5,080 posts)
61. Lots of
Sat Mar 8, 2025, 08:50 AM
Mar 2025

pythons and iguana (chicken of the tree) out there for the taking. Got any good recipes? I've made python jerky and iguana tacos but I'd like to branch out.

True Blue American

(18,571 posts)
28. You will be a busy deed.
Fri Mar 7, 2025, 02:12 PM
Mar 2025

Why is it I have been craving eggs every day now! Normally I seldom eat them.

usaf-vet

(7,606 posts)
31. Sadly, most folks do not understand that many communities have ordinances against raising chickens, etc, in city limits.
Fri Mar 7, 2025, 02:19 PM
Mar 2025

We live in a rural part of the state, yet those ordinances still exist.

As a former honeybee researcher with the USDA, I wanted to keep one bee hive in my yard surrounded by a six-foot fence to improve pollination on our three fruit trees, but that didn't get approved either.

Two years later, we removed the fruit trees because they failed to produce adequate, useful fruit due to a lack of pollination. Yet the leaves still had to be raked, bagged, and taken to the city landfill.

YepYep

(42 posts)
35. Get Crackin'
Fri Mar 7, 2025, 02:31 PM
Mar 2025

You best be making your own weapons for the Great Patriotic War, helping our dear friend Putin fight the evil horde that doesn't say thank you./s

BumRushDaShow

(156,608 posts)
40. "How do you grow your own coffee beans in Ohio"
Fri Mar 7, 2025, 03:08 PM
Mar 2025

Get yourself a little Coffee Arabica plant and grow it in a pot at home. If you put it outside in summer, it will like that along with humidity and acid soil (plus it doesn't like nights that go below the 50s, so watch the weather in fall). It does well as an "understory" plant.

I have one overwintering in the basement right now. It takes about 7 or more years before it is mature enough to flower when growing from baby sprouts but the flowers have a nice jasmine scent and will form clusters along a branch, eventually producing berries. Obviously young shrubs won't have much but over time as the plant matures, you can get a couple handfuls of beans and at least you know the source!

Mine is almost floor size (I had one previously about 20 years ago and had gotten as big as the below but some plant that I bought ended up with mealy bugs that got on the coffee and battling that was a nightmare, and I finally gave up) -

Below is Logee's that sells them (my current one is from there but it was a 4" plant when I bought it about 7 years ago) -

Diamond_Dog

(37,603 posts)
41. Wow, thanks, BumRushDaShow!
Fri Mar 7, 2025, 03:38 PM
Mar 2025

Seven years is a long time to wait ….. maybe I’ll switch to tea. 🙂
At least now I know it can be done!

BumRushDaShow

(156,608 posts)
43. Treat the tea camellia the same way
Fri Mar 7, 2025, 04:08 PM
Mar 2025

They want acid soil although they are a bit hardier than coffees (they are more warm temperate but would probably still need to be brought in for winter where you are). They have varieties with either pink or white flowers. I used to have one a bunch of years ago too but I think it ended up with scale on it.

IIRC, the buds are what are plucked and there is a "process" of rolling those little bud leaves to release oils and then dry.

BumRushDaShow

(156,608 posts)
38. Make sure you save that avocado pit
Fri Mar 7, 2025, 02:57 PM
Mar 2025

and grow yourself a tree! It may take 10 years to get to be mature enough to maybe start to fruit but at least you are taking matters into your own hands!!!11!!1!!



BumRushDaShow

(156,608 posts)
44. I definitely remember doing that too
Fri Mar 7, 2025, 04:11 PM
Mar 2025

and even as a young adult!

Keeping them happy (and preferably rooted in soil) is what can be tricky. It's hard in winter for many of these tropical/subtropical plants because of the dry heated air. I have some citrus (limes) in the basement overwintering fight now and I know they hate it but I have a whole light setup for them to try to get them through the winter before putting them outside.

Kali

(56,325 posts)
45. works better to just gently place the pit back in the peel and set it in a pot of clean soil
Fri Mar 7, 2025, 05:33 PM
Mar 2025

push it in a little and maybe sprinkle some more potting soil over the top, but no need to really bury it. think how the fruit falls off the tree, sitting on the ground in a pile of overripe fruit and leaf litter.

calimary

(87,043 posts)
51. VERY nice, BumRush!
Fri Mar 7, 2025, 08:15 PM
Mar 2025

Terrific posts! And motivating, too!

More, please! (And from others among us here, too!)

FakeNoose

(37,844 posts)
47. Also we can cut way down on our shopping time now
Fri Mar 7, 2025, 05:56 PM
Mar 2025

None of us will be buying cars, appliances, furniture or homes these days.

3825-87867

(1,470 posts)
48. Rural America - 1870s
Fri Mar 7, 2025, 05:58 PM
Mar 2025

Say Hi to Marshal Dillon and Miss Kitty.
Gotta go...Buckboard's waiting!

taxi

(2,393 posts)
52. You can tell your grandkids that people voted a long time ago.
Fri Mar 7, 2025, 08:50 PM
Mar 2025

They would go to the polls and wait in line to incrementally add votes to a candidates tally. That was necessary at the time because King Donald and Emperor Elon hadn't yet replaced vote counting computers with indisputable AI generated outcomes. People were so silly then. Now no one has to waste time on that antiquated process.
You see? Now you have all that free time.

pat_k

(11,425 posts)
54. No more eggs for one neigborhood in Bellingham
Fri Mar 7, 2025, 11:02 PM
Mar 2025
Washington family torn apart after father arrested outside of Everson church and deported
...
As neighbors stop by the family’s home in Whatcom County for eggs from the family’s chicken coop, many don’t have a clue what the family is going through. Leticia Villatoro fears every knock could be immigration agents coming to take her away from her children.

The family has around 30 hens. Neighbors pay $3 or $4 for a dozen eggs. The family is proud of being able to provide for their neighbors this way. There are other things the family is proud of, living their version of the American Dream. Chaj had a good job with a homebuilder — they were able to fully pay off their mortgage years ago...

In the wake of Chaj’s arrest and deportation, Leticia Villatoro has decided to go back to Guatemala with her three youngest children — where she and Chaj both can care for them...


https://www.bellinghamherald.com/news/state/washington/article301675594.html

Mopar151

(10,315 posts)
58. Junk is gonna be a natural resouce again!
Sat Mar 8, 2025, 06:32 AM
Mar 2025

Salvage yards will make a comeback, the service parts pipeline is stocked enough for a while. The driveway mechanic /tinkerer/builder/enthusiast market is already huge, and diverse.

Our problems will be lack of gas money, food money, house money -and more's the pity. :

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