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https://newrepublic.com/article/192315/trump-economy-recession-ukraine-russia-world-war-apocalypse
https://archive.ph/eC8LH

On Friday, as he and Vice President JD Vance tore into Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy in the Oval Office on live TV, President Donald Trump briefly broke the fourth wall. This, Trump said as he surveyed the cameras surrounding them, is going to make great television.
It was a moment that summed up Trumps political project. Here he was, screaming at the leader of a free nation that had been invaded by a longtime American rival three years earlier and who, until recently, had been feted in Washington by leaders of both parties. But more than that, Trump was radically altering Americas foreign policy in real time, shifting the balance of power globally in favor of authoritarianism, and starting a chain reaction that could lead to Russia invading other neighbors and possibly even triggering World War III. It was compelling television, certainly.
Three days later, it happened again. As Trump spoke on live television Monday about the tariffs he was slapping the following day on goods from neighbors Mexico and Canada, as well as longtime trading partner Chinatariffs that pretty much every expert agrees risk hurtling America into recessionyou could watch, in the bottom right corner of Fox Newss feed, the stock market plummet. Over the course of 20 seconds, the market fell by three points per second; by the end of the day, more than $3 trillionthe total gains for the first two months of the yearhad been wiped out. It was, to be fair, pretty great televisionparticularly once the Curb Your Enthusiasm theme was
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— David Leavitt (@davidleavitt.bsky.social) 2025-03-04T06:14:40.966Z" target="_blank">added.Trumps experience as the decade-long host of The Apprentice, where he played the straight-talking rich boss, has always been crucial to understanding both his appeal and his approach to politics. He sees the presidency as a television show, and his decisions are often driven by the desire to make good television above all else. This can lend a sense of unreality to his presidency, as if what were watching either isnt real or is an exaggerated version of reality.
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Ocelot II
(130,516 posts)Duncan Grant
(8,920 posts)(This will come as no surprise to you, Ocelot ll, but I thought Id drop it here just for perspective.)
Do 54% of adults have a literacy level below 6th grade level?
Yes, approximately 54% of American adults have a literacy level below the equivalent of a sixth-grade level. This means that they struggle with basic reading and comprehension skills.
Explains a lot, but not all. Youll be shocked to learn there are people who believe demons walk this earth. Not metaphorically literal straight from hell, college educated, demons. What a country.
DSandra
(1,719 posts)and can't understand how the world is from relatively uneducated people's perspectives, nor understand how most of America is much less educated than us.
Duncan Grant
(8,920 posts)I believe ignorance and isolation is the bubble. White supremacy is definitely a bubble. Conversely, being woke is a bubble buster. An isolationist foreign policy supports the bubble. Over-reliance on personal belief systems enable the bubble. Religion forms bubbles.
Long story short critical thinking, the ability to live in a multicultural/multilingual world destroys bubbles. And maybe thats a message worth evangelizing with initiatives like, DEI (diversity, equity and inclusion).
DSandra
(1,719 posts)to be anywhere as educated and as informed about politics and other things. Many have thought of the president as some sort of dictator for a long time, well before Trump.
We see all the bad stuff that Trump and Republicans are doing, but many Americans may not realize how bad it is because they are so uninformed.
meadowlander
(5,133 posts)21% of Americans speak English as a second language which would impact their score on an English-language literacy test but doesn't automatically make them stupid or uninformed.
Not saying there aren't an awful lot of actually stupid folk out there, but I don't think it's 54%.
Duncan Grant
(8,920 posts)rampartd
(4,628 posts)but it is difficult to understand trump's power without considering the possibility of a faustian contract.
xmas74
(30,055 posts)I dated a few men who could wear that well. One if them might actually scare a real demon, if they existed.
andym
(6,066 posts)What they didn't realize was that Trump's incompetence was papered over by people with government experience who stopped much of his poor judgement from being realized.
Blasphemer
(3,623 posts)Activists on the left, the courts, Dems, even members of the GOP. He was reigned in on multiple fronts. He inherited Obama's economy and the Dems bailed the country out during the pandemic. They never got to see the real DJT.
Initech
(108,772 posts)And with the shiny objects on Fox, Newsmax, OAN, social media.
andym
(6,066 posts)so that is to be expected, and needs to be carefully addressed. That's why Trump was out there on the campaign trail calling America an economic dystopia, when the economy was strong. He was amplifying the idea that inflation meant the USA was in a recession, which it was not.
Scrivener7
(59,516 posts)bucolic_frolic
(55,129 posts)He's a gambler, with a showman's grasp on con jobs. Polling by gut feelings, then act on it. Rigid mental certainty.
With apologies to NYers, I attribute this to a distinctly Brooklyn area undercurrent of personality because a strain of it runs in my family. Yes it's authoritarian.
appmanga
(1,492 posts)...and is essentially what you'd get if Archie Bunker actually became president. And one of the most interesting and disappointing things Norman Lear found out is lots of people didn't see Archie as a foil and ignoramus; they saw him as the character they rooted for. And as time has gone by, his bigotry is mitigated by people who's opinions boil down to Archie was decent because he wasn't a violent racist.
I was born and raised in Brooklyn and I can't recall ever encountering anyone from there being as stupid as Trump.
kacekwl
(9,144 posts)Then to my amazement it happened again. He said what he was going to do and for once he told the truth.
vapor2
(4,506 posts)I wanted to vomit when trump waved his finger in Zelinsky's face. I would have grabbed that finger if it was in my face. Merkley asked trump sycophants if he is a Russian asset. Chris Landau said trump had a special gift of making deals (and killing people in the process)
Solly Mack
(96,940 posts)Mysterian
(6,482 posts)Evil people have overwhelmed gullible people with propaganda.
Duncan Grant
(8,920 posts)The real tragedy, imho, is were fighting each other in a culture war. We should be fighting a worldwide class war. I hope I live so long
Buns_of_Fire
(19,161 posts)The disturbing part is how many of them saw it coming and WELCOMED it.
wendyb-NC
(4,690 posts)Way back in 2016.
The Third Doctor
(449 posts)The American public failed a open book test.
Blue Owl
(59,086 posts)DSandra
(1,719 posts)I did the best I could to prepare for this (although I had to deal with tough headwinds.)
Biden did nothing to stop the momentum that was still behind Trump. It was Dems' job to get Trump disqualified from running again and the party failed.
William769
(59,147 posts)They just wanted a white supremacist President & they didn't care how they got him.
rickyhall
(5,509 posts)rickyhall
(5,509 posts)Blue Full Moon
(3,484 posts)Probably before that. That is when I knew because a teacher I had discussed it in class. It's also why I have always voted for the Democratic Party straight ticket.
betsuni
(29,075 posts)developing decade by decade into the radical non-governing mess of a party we have today. Newt Gingrich in the '90s and later G.W. Bush found out that Republican voters weren't ideological, didn't want to eliminate government. Now everyone's nutty.
usonian
(25,300 posts)
And were suckered into supporting oligarchs, being ripped off to give welfare to the rich, and got bitcoin and tech bros in charge.


Complete collection here:
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100219770873
lapfog_1
(31,904 posts)but they like a NAZI leader so... seig heil!!!
FakeNoose
(41,622 posts)We've all seen what was happening ever since Chump weaseled out of the coup attempt of January 6, 2021.
Initech
(108,772 posts)Right wing propaganda is a virus. It is not something to mess with. It has rotted more minds than any amount of crack, heroin and crystal meth combined.
krkaufman
(13,961 posts)isnt what I consider accurate. Trump promised to lower prices, and various other things, but he vehemently denied any knowledge of Project 2025. This is the fever dream of the Right Wing manifested, but nobody voted for this because nobody campaigned on these actions.
As for seeing it coming, nearly 50% of the voting population saw it coming, knowing Ttump was lying about Project 2025, like everything else.
p.s. But a caveat/correction Trump *did* effectively campaign on feeding Ukraine to Russia, and hes overtly functioned as Putins puppet for years, so the foreign policy shift cant be viewed as a surprise by anybody.
Demovictory9
(37,113 posts)mdbl
(8,650 posts)I never realized just how many stupid voters there are until this election. As soon as the WWE Chick gets done F'ing up the department of education - they will get even dumber, if you can imagine.
Well apparently over half of our population doesn't know how to read, write or think, or some combination of the 3. And who's fault is that? I say it's our government's fault. There is no reason why we can't educate all of our citizens. We have no excuse. It's the 21st Century, for God's sake. There is only one Party that faithfully votes against Education down thru the passage of time. Shame on the Democratic Party for letting this happen. If the Dem Party had to go Corporate, then Education should have been a strict shut-down-the-country-over-my-damn-body-cause to fight for in exchange. And if our country survives this horrible nightmare and returns to down to earth Democracy, the Democratic Party absolutely must lay down the fucking law that we educate all of our rural communities!
Period. Full stop.
betsuni
(29,075 posts)ReRe
(12,189 posts)since time began. The only reason we have a Dept of Education at all is because of Democrats! Did you just read my reply up to a certain word and then read no more? I'm having a tangle with stress this evening and will have to get back to you on this. I'm not against Dems. I'm just against the things they don't do.
Paladin
(32,354 posts)PLENTY of us saw it coming, New Republic. And we sure don't need any whiney-assed scolding from you, or the NY Times, or any other member of the U.S. mainstream media, now that the Godawful damage is done.
"An exaggerated version of reality"? Here, let me help you out, New Republic: the phrase you're looking for is "Fucking sociopolitical nightmare." Thanks for absolutely nothing...
Uncle Joe
(65,127 posts)for about half a century.
People, and even nations generally can't perceive any opposing or discomforting concepts or ideas outside of their bubble.
Thanks for the thread Celerity