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Nevilledog

(54,715 posts)
Sun Mar 9, 2025, 07:42 PM Mar 2025

Killing PEPFAR means killing millions of people

https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/402944/pepfar-hiv-donald-trump-elon-musk-global-health


A lot has happened in the last six weeks, to put it mildly, and it can be hard to see through the dust and tell what’s actually ongoing.

The government threatened tariffs, backed off, then did the tariffs, and then started carving out tariff exceptions for connected-enough constituencies.

We did showy military deportation flights then stopped because they’re incredibly expensive. Trump’s flurry of executive orders tried to end birthright citizenship (a judge put that on hold), and froze the issuing of passports to transgender Americans (this is being slowly resolved as people individually appeal to their representatives or the media for help). Elon Musk’s Department of Government Efficiency, or DOGE, team slashed the federal workforce, then sent emails hiring many people back.

One result has been that it is very hard to communicate as a journalist — or to learn as an interested member of the public — which of the harmful things that the government is doing are actually ongoing and actually worth pushing back on.

But here is an enormously high-stakes problem that is clear and still ongoing: the cancellation of our best-performing overseas programs to treat infectious disease.

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Killing PEPFAR means killing millions of people (Original Post) Nevilledog Mar 2025 OP
Yes. MANY of the things that REPUBLICANS want to cut... dchill Mar 2025 #1
If, like me, the acronym PEPFAR is... WestMichRad Mar 2025 #2
The cruelty is beyond words wendyb-NC Mar 2025 #3
I think he enjoys MustLoveBeagles Mar 2025 #5
Presidents Emergency Plan For AIDS Relief SilasSouleII Mar 2025 #7
Like he even cares about AIDS relief. calimary Mar 2025 #13
Thank you, West MI Rad. I hate undefined acronyms. Firestorm49 Mar 2025 #11
I keep reminding myself that (I think it was) Michael Popk of Legal AF made the point fierywoman Mar 2025 #4
Sadly TommyT139 Mar 2025 #6
They do not care MissB Mar 2025 #8
This really is coming off as deliberate population culling/forced eugenics at this point. So many of these decisions Karasu Mar 2025 #9
Worse than hitler paul91046 Mar 2025 #10
They want people to die. Solly Mack Mar 2025 #12
courtesy of the "christian pro-life party" Skittles Mar 2025 #14

dchill

(42,660 posts)
1. Yes. MANY of the things that REPUBLICANS want to cut...
Sun Mar 9, 2025, 07:47 PM
Mar 2025

...involve killing at least thousands of people. All in the name of tax cuts for already insanely and indecently wealthy people. AND in the name of grift.

WestMichRad

(3,008 posts)
2. If, like me, the acronym PEPFAR is...
Sun Mar 9, 2025, 08:12 PM
Mar 2025

… one that you can’t remember what it means… it is President’s Emergency Relief For AIDS Relief, the global health funding by the US to address the global HIV/AIDS epidemic and help save the lives of those suffering from the disease.

I had to look it up… now you don’t need to.

wendyb-NC

(4,607 posts)
3. The cruelty is beyond words
Sun Mar 9, 2025, 08:26 PM
Mar 2025

I guess the more casualties, the more powerful the orange shitbag feels.

Firestorm49

(4,508 posts)
11. Thank you, West MI Rad. I hate undefined acronyms.
Sun Mar 9, 2025, 10:35 PM
Mar 2025

Say what the hell it is once, then use the acronym.

fierywoman

(8,511 posts)
4. I keep reminding myself that (I think it was) Michael Popk of Legal AF made the point
Sun Mar 9, 2025, 09:13 PM
Mar 2025

that in the first tfg admin, something like 97% of his EOs were never enacted.

TommyT139

(2,194 posts)
6. Sadly
Sun Mar 9, 2025, 09:36 PM
Mar 2025

This time around, he has other people writing them for him.

And in between renaming international bodies of water and suing pollsters who didn't twist their numbers to favor him -- those people are Getting. Shit. Done.

MissB

(16,341 posts)
8. They do not care
Sun Mar 9, 2025, 09:47 PM
Mar 2025

Zero empathy. Actually less than zero empathy because we aren’t even talking about Americans.

American deserves to be isolated until we work this shit out.

Karasu

(2,003 posts)
9. This really is coming off as deliberate population culling/forced eugenics at this point. So many of these decisions
Sun Mar 9, 2025, 09:54 PM
Mar 2025

serve no other purpose than to kill people. Particularly people fascists find undesirable.

paul91046

(30 posts)
10. Worse than hitler
Sun Mar 9, 2025, 10:26 PM
Mar 2025

And soon will have caused more deaths. And that doesn't include the covid deaths because of what that ass said. Bleach! What an ass.

Solly Mack

(96,491 posts)
12. They want people to die.
Sun Mar 9, 2025, 10:37 PM
Mar 2025

Oh, they will couch their denial in all manner of ways, but their actions say otherwise.

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