Why Trump will not finish his term

[artemisia1]

Trump will not finish his term because, in his hubris he has forgotten the concept of interest. One can be allowed to make a lot of noise, disrupt some apple carts, but one cannot seriously threaten the interests and survival of the most powerful in society without encountering extreme danger, both politically and personally. In short, threaten the oligarchs -- powerful men and women who may not be in the spotlight but determine the fates of economies and politicians -- and one will be REMOVED.

Trump is disrupting:

1. The financial system

2. Defence contractors (this is not the reason for supporting Ukraine, but it IS profitable to this sector, as is NATO membership)

3. The Anglo-American Alliance -- a century's long financial and security partnership that benefits both citizens AND the extremely wealthy

4. The political stability so necessary for commerce and trade to flourish

5. Wrecking the economy and destroying trade partnerships

6. Increasing the chances of a catastrophic nuclear war

7. Destroying the Rule of Law which is so necessary for the enforcement of contracts, peaceful political transitions and the pursuit of business

These things concern us, the responsible citizenry, but they terrify the truly powerful. They may have tolerated Trump to a degree on the promise of tax cuts to the wealthiest, the scaling back (or outright removal) of environmental protections, the lowering or removing of financial and legal regulatory bodies , etc. but all of this is not sufficient to protect a politician who so deeply threatens the oligarch's interests. They will remove him.

[elleng]

1. Thanks! I tend to agree, and am 'interested' to see HOW and by whom it occurs.

I hope I live long enough!

WE will remove him!!!

[Trueblue1968]

37. He will die of a massive heart attack.

[Baron2024]

39. Probably

But I would prefer that he has a stroke that incapacitates him and results in long term suffering before he kicks the bucket. He should be in Walter Reed for months wearing a diaper and be completely unable to speak or function without professional care. That would be a measure of justice for all of the suffering that he has caused.

[Abolishinist]

57. Yes! He needs to suffer greatly for an extended period of time.

AND, those who change his diapers and clean his whatever parts should be recent immigrants from South America who are not proficient in English.

[Rainman4u2C]

67. This

is some of the sickest shit I have read on here in a decade. This sounds like something the supposed Nazi trump or musk would say.

“You reap what you sow: Life is like a boomerang. Our thoughts, deeds and words return to us sooner or later, with astounding accuracy.” ― Grant M. Bright

[Trueblue1968]

85. I want a heart attack. Let him leave earth, dont pass go and move directky to hell where he belongs.

[artemisia1]

90. No, we are better than that. /nt

[Baron2024]

2. I Hope That You Are Right

The sooner Trump is gone, the better.

[Morbius]

3. Trump is not the problem.

Trump is a symptom of the problem. We have bigger fish to fry.

[pandr32]

51. Let's start with this fish.

We can keep the fish fry going as long as we need.

[Ex Lurker]

88. Trump is the only one who can hold the cult together

without him they start fighting amongst themselves.

[Jazz Jon]

4. He is planning WWIII

I believe he is planning WWIII.
He has divided up the world with Russia and China. Russia gets Europe, China gets Taiwan, Japan, Australia and the Philippines. USA gets Greenland, Canada and Mexico. Everything he is doing points to this. Canada has taken Trumps threat to make Canada th 51st state very seriously. Canadian leadership has publicly stated that its not a joke.

[Cha]

5. I wish this were true & I Rec it because

it's interesting and hopeful for Discussion..

But I don't think anyone knows what will truly happen until it does.

I hope with all my heart and soul that Mump is Stopped burning down the country and the World that isn't controlled by Putin.

Mahalo

[no_hypocrisy]

6. What about Musk?

Unless he's kept away from influencing elections, government, and policy, he will continue to be a problem.

He won't go away when Trump goes away.

[artemisia1]

7. I fear he (Musk), may be going to the Train Station soon...

Not advocating this. Removal, not harm, is the right, moral and ethical way.

[Sugarcoated]

50. Forgive my ignorance

but what does that mean?

[artemisia1]

55. https://yellowstone.fandom.com/wiki/Train_Station

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The Train Station, also referred to as the Long Black Train, is a rural canyon area past the Montana border into Wyoming. It is the area where the Duttons and the branded execute and/or dispose of their enemies and those who know many of the Yellowstone's secrets. As Lloyd Pierce pointed out, it is a county consisting of no people, no law enforcement, no judge and jury of your peers, and no one living within a hundred miles. This area is an example of how the west was won.

[NJCher]

78. !?!

I know that area well. Many family vacations there! And I never knew this. Fascinating.

[EverHopeful]

8. I have been calling him a Trojan horse

being used to get the destructive forces inside and expected those who used him to "suddenly" notice his cognitive impairment and invoke the 25th amendment.

Perhaps they're waiting long enough to ensure he is blamed and until they're convinced their control is complete and the damage is irreversible.

[elleng]

10. Sure is possible,

until Traitor 'gives way' to destructive forces.

Question: will they be 'destructive forces' or 'just' russkies?

[JHB]

19. Yep, the plutocrats, theocrats, techbros, Putin, etc. have all seen him as a vehicle for pushing their agendas

The moment any of them thinks they have what they need to sweep the others aside and grab all the marbles, they'll go for it.

[J_William_Ryan]

9. "Why Trump will not finish his term"

Won’t happen, unfortunately.

Best hope is Democrats take control of one or both Houses of Congress in 2027.

[halobeam]

89. Idk, besides some of the disturbing posts in this thread...

Which I need to put aside because they leave me speechless, you mention our need to control Congress, but he isn’t using congress now, even with a majority. He’s illegally holding the purse strings, rendering them quite useless already, no? How much can a democratic majority in congress do when he governs by executive orders. When he allows Elon and his mini child-sheild take questions in the Oval Office. Etc., etc.?

I get that the few things being voted on wouldn’t pass, but I would think that any bills they might happen to pass, he’d wouldn’t abide by anyway. I’m thinking there won’t be a fair (if any) election as it is.

He said we wouldn’t need to vote again, regarding elections. When they tell you who they are, believe them. That’s one thing we’re told, is it not? What to believe anymore? He’s full of it? He’s not joking? He’s a puppet? He’s a madman? He’s not stupid? He’s a fucking idiot?

What to believe?

edited to correct: Elon in the oval , I said Putin. ( not far off )

[Girard442]

11. I believe that Trump won't finish his term.

Will we finish his term? That's the question.

[S/V Loner]

12. It's a big Con job and we are being played.

The real power behind all of this like the Federalist Society, the Heritage Foundation, the Billionaires (think Thiel) and the GOP will put a stop to trump and Musk but not until enough of the government has been destroyed. Then they will come in as the saviors of the Nation, Vance will be President, and start to rebuild. The media will praise them.
The thing is…Their goal would have been accomplished and they will rebuild the government as they want and it will be nothing like we grew up with. The nasty work had been done for them. Trump and Musk will be thrown under the bus and they get the government they want.
The Big Con.

[yellow dahlia]

58. I believe installing Vance at some point is a part of the plan.

[malaise]

13. His second term will be shorter than Nuxons

The sooner the better. He is a vexation to humanity and decency.

[Emile]

14. Well I hope his term ends sooner rather than later.

[Cosmocat]

15. His doom is impending part 100

Look, we are all on the same side, so I take no joy in popping this bubble, but we have seen countless versions of this fantasy here, even before he won his first term.

None have come to reality.

What is going to happen is what has happened at every step of the way - the Rs will not stand up to him, in fact they will continue to show relentless fealty, the media will continue to roll more and more toward normalizing him and the country will just continue to roll over.

The rich, sorry, much would prefer both sides of what comes with him - not liking the chaos and unpredictability, but loving his destroying our government and with it all the means to hold them to any level of accountability and the extra little sprinkle of sugar with him putting the screws to the plebs. To them its a clear net gain.

[Jazz Jon]

16. Rolling Over So Far

The country has just been rolling over so far. That could change. A great many still think eveything will be OK and its not their problem. Everything will not be OK. We just have to get enough people to understand that, and show them what action to take... which is what? by the way. I am eager to take action.

[NJCher]

79. Tell me the part

About how we are going to die.

Please include the grandma in the street in her wheelchair part.

[GoCubsGo]

17. His own cardiovascular system will get him first.

The effects of a lifetime of eating nothing but junk, not exercising, and drug abuse have been quite visible for some time. We have all watched his physical and mental deterioration in real time, and it is accelerating. He looks like shit--worse than ever. Word has it he spent days in the hospital right after the election, because the stress got to him so badly. His meltdowns are becoming far more frequent. All he does is spew gibberish. It's just a matter of time... The sooner, the better, but it will never be soon enough.

[ProudMNDemocrat]

18. Let us pray that you are correct.

Then we get JD Vance, who is worse and can also be easily led to make rash decisions not in the best interest of the country.

The possible demise of POTUS will cause a family power vacuum in that they lose all influence and status they thought was theirs.

[anamnua]

22. Vance does not have the same

malignant, Pied Piperish, hypnotic power that his master has.

[yellow dahlia]

59. True. n/t

[Attilatheblond]

56. He IS looking pretty awful lately

And he knows that we know he is not the one in charge, just another employee. That we all see that has to be eating at his ego and causing more stress than ever.

Tick tock, aorta... tick tock

[GoCubsGo]

60. Apparently, he cancelled all of his various public appearances today.

Press conferences and all. The Meidas guys are attributing it to him hiding because of the market crash, but I'm wondering if he snapped due to all the stress.

[Attilatheblond]

66. That, or Elon, Vlad or Mike Johnson told him

to STFU.

Most likely about the market cuz his bosses know he would say stupid stuff.

[Dark n Stormy Knight]

72. Rumor has it he's been on Ozempic. Hence obvious

weight loss, which makes him look haggard. However, some people see massive improvement in cardiovascular risk factors from Ozempic.

I hope he's not one of them.

[Attilatheblond]

84. Spotted the tell tale signs of Ozempic very early in 2024 campaign.

And now he's even letting the hair go natural. Some image consultant FINALLY made him see himself as the made up clown he thought was so 'handsome'

[Dark n Stormy Knight]

91. It's almost easier to bieve that they put filters

on all of his mirrors and screens to keep his cartoon-yellow hair and pumpkin-orange skin than that someone was actually able to talk some sense into him! 😂

His skin is still overly "tanned," but it's closer to a normal tan color than before.

His previous look was more appropriate for him, though.

[NNadir]

20. If this were true, might things managed by the oligarchy get worse?

I don't know that they will or won't but the question remains as to whether what has already been destroyed in this short period subject to restoration.

Humpty Dumpty and all that...

[the_liberal_grandpa]

21. 8647

[Polybius]

23. In 2017-2019, I remember a huge amount of posts saying the same thing

Many predicted that he would resign, or pass from one too many cheeseburgers. He didn't.

[rasputin1952]

24. At least not yet. n/t

[Self Esteem]

44. Yup. Here's a fun thread from 2018...

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100211047895

Some people called it (2021 - maybe even 2025 if he won reelection) but a lot of people predicting his presidency would end soon-ish.

[Zackzzzz]

82. You Remember

You can pull up a thread from 2018.....

Who knew my taxes would still be
paying for another day of me, me, me,

[sakabatou]

25. Unfortunately, I don't see him being ousted

unless it's by repukes (never), or he dies in office.

[Traildogbob]

26. My thought and prayer.

Trump tower top floor window.
And the city will not even need to clean it up.
MAGA’s will swarm the street to lick up every morsel of his flattened, fat ass. Like Maggots do, with street garbage.

[Dan]

27. Well, if that might be true, then I suspect

That Donald will board up all the windows in the White House.

[TommieMommy]

28. I agree due to him pissing off so many people all over the world.

Something is bound to happen.

[Doodley]

29. I don't believe Trump is going anywhere. He has a cult following. He has the GOP behind him. He has

many grievances that he still needs to settle. Why would he suddenly give that up? To him, that would look like weakness. However bad the economy goes, however bad DOGE goes, however bad our relations with other nations, he will always believe he is a victim and it is other people's fault.

[appmanga]

30. And so what if he doesn't?

Do you think the march toward authoritarianism started with, and will end with the end of Trump? We've been going in the direction of authoritarianism for better than 30 years with things like Iran Contra, and the personality cult that built around Reagan. Before Trump, Mitch McConnell was the most successful authoritarian politician in at least modern U.S. history. Trump simply said "To hell with the bonfires" and got us to an inferno a lot faster.

The folks radicalized by Trump aren't just going to slink away, and they will hold on to the remnants of "The Trump Movement" until it's beaten back, something that may take a generation. This is why it's incumbent upon Democratic politicians to go beyond being "the resistance" and instead become the opposition. Those operating under the misguided idea that cooperation is buying them some kind of goodwill among the bigots, mossbacks, Nazis, Q-Anon freaks, and just plain right-wing assholes, are continuing to make the mistake of thinking there's some kernel of normalcy to be found in this so far successful ruining of American Democracy.

No one should think the end of Trump is the end of this sprint toward fascism by his acolytes and worshipers. Now that they know fascism has become a palatable choice for tens of millions, they're not going simply give up on it.

[Baron2024]

40. I Think That You Are Right

But if Trump were to kick the bucket it would at least put a good dent in the MAGA Fascist Movement. But fighting that movement will be a long term operation. We could prevail, though. We beat the British Empire in the 18th Century, we beat the Confederates in the 19th Century, we beat the Nazis in the 20th Century, we can beat the MAGA Fascists in the 21st Century. Fascism has its allure, but Democracy and Freedom are highly popular and they often prevail in history. So I think that we have a shot at winning this. It is going to be a fight though.

[yellow dahlia]

62. How do we put the reptiles back under their rocks?

How do we undo the damage of the brainwashing and mind control perpetrated by RWmedia?

[Baron2024]

68. Uprising

I think that unless we retake at least the House in 2026, it will take an Uprising. If that happened, hopefully a lot of the military and law enforcement would be on the side of the People and the Constitution and against Trump Musk. Some military and law enforcement are Trumpers, some are not. A lot of Federal Workers are Veterans and they must be pissed off, amongst other things.

I hope that we can regain control peacefully and democratically. But I think that there is a good chance that Trump might suspend the 2026 elections after creating some sort of excuse or pretext to do so. If something like that happens it might set off a real Uprising.

But hopefully the elections will occur and we will regain at least the House, and maybe also the Senate. Then the Opposition will move into high gear, with probable Impeachment of Trump and a Congressional investigation of Musk and other Trump Regime criminals.

I think that the People around Trump understand this possibility and will try to suspend the elections, fundamentally ending democracy in America. If they did this, the only solution that I could see would be some form of Uprising against the illegal fascist Trump Regime. I pray that we do not get to such a point.

[yellow dahlia]

61. I have said this since 2016.

The fringe and creepy were given permission to come out from under their rocks. I don't see a way to get them back there. They were validated and given permission to be "normalized".

[EarthAbides]

31. Trying to see the silver lining

Dumpster Trump will destroy everything he can for Putin. At some point smarter people will come in and destroy Dumpster Trump and the muskrat. Hopefully, those smarter people will want to restore democracy.

[Aristus]

32. I thought this was going to happen between 2017 and 2021. It didn't.

That motherfucker just won't DIE...

[Bluestocking]

33. Only if he dies

The only way he doesn’t finish his term is if he dies. He is following Project 2025 to the letter.

[Norrrm]

34. and then we get the real President 2025 (Vance), another real stooge.

[Ace Rothstein]

35. People at DU have been proclaiming the end of Trump for a decade.

I'll believe it when it actually happens.

[Oopsie Daisy]

36. Is Vance any better? If both were removed, would Johnson be any better?

[BamaRefugee]

38. This is it in a nutshell. It's like one of those Russian Matryoshka dolls, they just keep coming out.

[yellow dahlia]

63. Right.

Johnson wants to take his people to the rapture or "end of days"...whatever that is.

[GoodRaisin]

41. Hope so, or maybe he will just die.

Stroke out in the hot Florida sun on the golf course. Tomorrow.

[flamingdem]

42. Do the republicans in congress care enough to remove him?

They haven't said as much as a peep so far...

WHO will remove him?

[Mr. Sparkle]

43. You overlooked one obvious point

Trump is not planning on leaving ...

[Self Esteem]

45. Trump isn't leaving unless he dies.

Anyone thinking he'll be forced out is deluding themselves. Trump has filled his administration with yes men - and they're the ones who can remove him.

[SocialDemocrat61]

46. A KFC bone

might be our greatest hope 😉

[Torchlight]

47. I won';t say yes or no, only that I don't know.

Some will guess (rightly or wrongly) he flubs, and gives out prior to term end.
Other will guess (rightly or wrongly) he sticks it out to end of term.

As said in '66, tomorrow never knows.

[valleyrogue]

48. Trump isn't even the worst of it.

It is the P25 and the "libertarian" crackpots like Peter Thiel who are a cancer to the country.

And that isn't even including the "Christian" reconstructionists.

[yellow dahlia]

64. Exactly. These forces converged from more than one direction. n/t

[ZRB]

49. Pure fantasy

Wrapped in wishful thinking.

[liberal N proud]

52. Sooner the better

[ecstatic]

53. when? And how much damage will be done prior to his removal?

[Joinfortmill]

54. From your mouth to the right ear.

[yellow dahlia]

65. I have said that once he is no longer their useful idiot,

he will be removed.

But here is something that concerns me. There have been hints that they will blame the Democrats. Tucker started talking about it in the Summer of 2024. There is talk lately attributing the Butler PA attempt to Dems. Pam Bondi even made this assertion. If something happens to the grifter that they can blame on the Dems, it plays into their plans of a civil war.

We can't let out guard down. There is a concerted effort to demonize the "left", in so many ways.

[Wifes husband]

69. None of that matters

It's the tax cuts.

The people behind trump do not care what he does as long as they get the tax cuts.

That's it.

[artemisia1]

86. Not if their business is destroyed. /nt

[Orrex]

70. Maybe he'll just fucking die already.

So that poor fool can stop posting those daily deathwatch threads.

[wendyb-NC]

71. It makes sense that they wouldn't appreciate reckless actions

[Alsteen]

73. When Trump dies so does the cult. No one else has the charisma. He dies, it's over. NT

[artemisia1]

74. I would like to think so. However, those who benefit from it will do their best to continue. /nt

[The Revolution]

75. I expect him to last 42 months

2 Now the beast which I saw was like a leopard, his feet were like the feet of a bear, and his mouth like the mouth of a lion. The dragon gave him his power, his throne, and great authority. 3 And I saw one of his heads as if it had been mortally wounded, and his deadly wound was healed. And all the world marveled and followed the beast. 4 So they worshiped the dragon who gave authority to the beast; and they worshiped the beast, saying, “Who is like the beast? Who is able to make war with him?”

5 And he was given a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies, and he was given authority to continue for forty-two months. 6 Then he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme His name, His tabernacle, and those who dwell in heaven.

[Straw Man]

76. OK, here's a cold-blooded joke ...

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... that supposedly comes from the former Soviet Union. I may have read it here, and if so, hats off to whoever posted it.

A man stops at the same newsstand every day, buys a paper, looks at the front page, and then drops it in the trash. Finally, the newsstand clerk can't suppress his curiosity any longer, and asks the man why he does this.
"I'm checking to see if someone died," the man says.
The clerk says, "But if that's what you want to know, why aren't you looking at the obituaries? Why only the front page?"
"When this person dies," says the man, "it will be on the front page."

[LeftInTX]

77. He's not going anywhere. I'm worried that he won't go anywhere ever. And that we will be stuck with him for life.

He's already planning a third term.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

80. One can only hope!!

[Meowmee]

81. How I wish that were true but when it happens I will believe it

Unless he is impeached again and convicted or removed on the basis of the 25th amendment, something which I don't believe R will do, I don't see it happening. Let's hope I am wrong and you are right.

[pansypoo53219]

83. butbutbut tax cuts.

[PufPuf23]

87. Prefer Trump be removed by process like impeachment or 25th Amendment.

Should die unexpectedly or become incapacitated suddenly, the USA and world could slip into a status too horrible to comprehend.

We risk power slipping to insane with power and their own destiny at the cost of all and most everything.

Seems like each day is fraught with more jars to long held expectations.

Tend to view that much human conflict is the re-arranging of deck chairs for catastrophe and this process is not new.

There are too many humans and too big a human footprint of the Earth. Ecology with no technical solutions; just buying time, digging a deeper hole and human cooperation is not the desire of Trump, Musk, Putin, the contemporary oligarchs and similar.

[artemisia1]

92. See what I mean? Defence contractors are not going to like Canada cancelling their F-35 orders and other nations,

such as Portugal, eliminating U.S. arms from consideration. This is a lot of money and both contractors AND their Senators and Representatives are going to be p*ssed over this.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/canada-joins-portugal-weighing-alternatives-125128333.html

Give it time. It will happen. "The Wise Men" will pay Trump a visit and show him the door.

(giving it time doesn't mean not fighting; it just means that there is hope)