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For 45 years people have bought into the Repigs culture war. (Original Post) Duncanpup Mar 2025 OP
repukes know how easily manipulated conservatives are Skittles Mar 2025 #1
Absokutely correct! SheltieLover Mar 2025 #2
It gets confusing, with everything that overlaps. AmericaUnderSiege Mar 2025 #3
Also misogyny. Sometimes it's subtle, but it's always a driving force. Walleye Mar 2025 #5
For sure, corruption is tangled with other corruption. AmericaUnderSiege Mar 2025 #6
My feeling is that racism could not exist without misogyny Walleye Mar 2025 #13
I knew a Korean War veteran who told his daughter BobsYourUncle Mar 2025 #12
I'm positive that's the reason we've never had a woman for president. Many people in this country think the president Walleye Mar 2025 #14
And it was started by HarryM Mar 2025 #4
Absolutely ✊🏼 benfranklin1776 Mar 2025 #7
"Psychopathic hoarding" that's exactly what's happening here Walleye Mar 2025 #15
Yes as Abraham Lincoln described it: benfranklin1776 Mar 2025 #16
Great quote. I wish we had more people who could think and speak clearly like that Walleye Mar 2025 #17
Me too although our Lincolns and Kings are out there benfranklin1776 Mar 2025 #19
Repigs have been waging -- and winning -- a class war for 45 years Martin Eden Mar 2025 #8
Part of their "success" starting with Reagan was no_hypocrisy Mar 2025 #9
"Lifestyles of the Rich & Famous" seems like psy-ops now underpants Mar 2025 #11
An interesting book to read on class is Isabel Wilkerson's book, Caste. Lonestarblue Mar 2025 #10
They have committed the greatest scam in American history maxrandb Mar 2025 #18
I think we've fought the class war JustAnotherGen Mar 2025 #20
My brother was not supposed to Tickle Mar 2025 #21
The Social Security Fairness Act Zambero Mar 2025 #22
Thank you, I can't wait Tickle Mar 2025 #23

Skittles

(171,710 posts)
1. repukes know how easily manipulated conservatives are
Mon Mar 10, 2025, 05:02 AM
Mar 2025

the subjects change but the underlying sentiment remains the same:

“If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you.”
― Lyndon B. Johnson

 

AmericaUnderSiege

(777 posts)
3. It gets confusing, with everything that overlaps.
Mon Mar 10, 2025, 06:08 AM
Mar 2025

I'm of the opinion that racism is the source of almost all our misery. We were doing superbly with Obama, but look how crazy these animals are going chasing down the nonexistent "DEI" bogeyman.

We see that it's the Russians pumping this craziness, but what's even beneath that? I really think it's oil. Fossil fuels. The raw power is gives some people. Address that and we address class by default.

 

AmericaUnderSiege

(777 posts)
6. For sure, corruption is tangled with other corruption.
Mon Mar 10, 2025, 06:39 AM
Mar 2025

You pull the thread and things start unraveling. But this country, especially in the political classes, racism is the one to pick. Because of the compromises of our formation, our government is full of unreconstructed racists: People who wouldn't even be tolerated in normal society if they weren't rich. Pull on that thread.

BobsYourUncle

(215 posts)
12. I knew a Korean War veteran who told his daughter
Mon Mar 10, 2025, 07:33 AM
Mar 2025

that he “just can’t vote for a woman for president.” in ‘16, so he voted for TSF! Never missed a vote in his life. I am sure there was some of that affecting Kamala’s loss. Did I miss any discussion about this?

Walleye

(44,805 posts)
14. I'm positive that's the reason we've never had a woman for president. Many people in this country think the president
Mon Mar 10, 2025, 07:40 AM
Mar 2025

Is the ultimate macho position. In the movie about Nixon, John Dean says they were “at the top of macho Mountain”.

benfranklin1776

(7,016 posts)
7. Absolutely ✊🏼
Mon Mar 10, 2025, 06:50 AM
Mar 2025

As Doctor King recognized, poverty caused by the psychopathic hoarding of wealth at the expense of those who helped create it is the single greatest driver of poverty, and the common enemy of all people who should unite to defeat it, no matter their race or creed.

Walleye

(44,805 posts)
15. "Psychopathic hoarding" that's exactly what's happening here
Mon Mar 10, 2025, 07:41 AM
Mar 2025

Old stacks of newspapers or billions of dollars it’s the same disease

benfranklin1776

(7,016 posts)
16. Yes as Abraham Lincoln described it:
Mon Mar 10, 2025, 07:55 AM
Mar 2025

The same old serpent.

“You will find that all the arguments in favor of king-craft were of this class; they always bestrode the necks of the people, not that they wanted to do it, but because the people were better off for being ridden. That is their argument, and this argument of the Judge is the same old serpent that says you work and I eat, you toil and I will enjoy the fruits of it.

"Turn it whatever way you will---whether it come from the mouth of a King, an excuse for enslaving the people of his country, or from the mouth of men of one race as a reason for enslaving the men of another race, it is all the same old serpent." -- Abraham Lincoln. Speech at Chicago, Illinois | July 10, 1858

benfranklin1776

(7,016 posts)
19. Me too although our Lincolns and Kings are out there
Mon Mar 10, 2025, 08:02 AM
Mar 2025

People like Bernie, AOC, Jasmine Crockett, Maxwell Frost and many others who do not as yet hold office. And they are giving their best full measure of devotion to stop this destruction of our democracy and to rebuild a better America in which everyone shares the blessings of their labors and true justice. Their words and ideas will break through just as Lincoln’s did! ✊🏼

Martin Eden

(15,628 posts)
8. Repigs have been waging -- and winning -- a class war for 45 years
Mon Mar 10, 2025, 07:18 AM
Mar 2025

Now they're coming after the Social Security and Medicare we've already paid for with paycheck deductions our entire working lives.

Comforting the rich while afflicting the poor, the sick, and the elderly is the "Christian" thing to do, right?

no_hypocrisy

(54,906 posts)
9. Part of their "success" starting with Reagan was
Mon Mar 10, 2025, 07:21 AM
Mar 2025

they got Baby Boomers to switch their addiction from drugs and alcohol to wealth and power.

The Middle Class in 1980 was doing fine. Inflation was a solvable problem. But Reagan promised his programs would enhance financial security and prowess beyond the New Deal. And the voters bought it.

underpants

(196,495 posts)
11. "Lifestyles of the Rich & Famous" seems like psy-ops now
Mon Mar 10, 2025, 07:27 AM
Mar 2025

When I joined DU there was a regular column called “Ask Auntie Pinko”. The first one I saw was “Dear Auntie Pinko, if I vote Republican will I become rich?”

Lonestarblue

(13,480 posts)
10. An interesting book to read on class is Isabel Wilkerson's book, Caste.
Mon Mar 10, 2025, 07:23 AM
Mar 2025

I think I need to re-read it.

maxrandb

(17,427 posts)
18. They have committed the greatest scam in American history
Mon Mar 10, 2025, 07:59 AM
Mar 2025

They convinced a large number of Middle Class Americans, making $48K-$50K a year, with shit wages, no pensions, bullshit benefits and zero labor protections, that there true enemy was their fellow Middle Class Americans making $50K-$52K a year, with less shitty wages, a modest pension, barely passable benefits and minor labor protections.

It's why a large segment of the Middle Class are gleeful to see Civil Servants get screwed.

If they ever start questioning why their wages, pensions, benefits and labor protections suck so much, instead of being pissed at their neighbors that are just barely doing marginally better than they are, the trickle-down bullshit that has been shoved up the American Middle classes ass for 50 fucking years, collapses like a house of cards.

Their idea of workplace standards is; everyone should get as fucked over as I do.

That's their idea of fairness.

It's bad enough that these Middle Class Americans, that enjoy some modest labor benefits, have to fight the billionaires and corporate America. It's criminal that they also need to fight 10s of millions of their fellow Middle Class Americans.

I have a pension and benefits from 30 years in the military. You'd be shocked at the number of my neighbors that consider me a "Lucky Ducky".

JustAnotherGen

(38,054 posts)
20. I think we've fought the class war
Mon Mar 10, 2025, 08:17 AM
Mar 2025

But lost.

Culture is where it is at. Sell a lifestyle and ideal and see where the chips fall.

Culture can include class.

We need to portray Maga as 'welfare kings and queens' who want the government to hand them everything on a silver platter.
We need to portray them as Entitled. Not selfish, but as entitled people who don't want to work hard for anything.
Lazy - unable to lift a finger to help themselves.
Controlling.
UnAmerican - for enemies.

 

Tickle

(4,131 posts)
21. My brother was not supposed to
Mon Mar 10, 2025, 08:27 AM
Mar 2025

collect all of his social security, he just got a $3300 check as back pay and every third Wednesday of the month he'll be getting a SS check. He started working for the post office in the 70s and was grandfathered in when they started changing the retirement plans. Oh, and he lives in Florida. Loves Trump

Zambero

(9,990 posts)
22. The Social Security Fairness Act
Mon Mar 10, 2025, 08:46 AM
Mar 2025

was signed into law over a year ago by President Biden. It did away with the so-called "windfall" provision which penalized individuals who had paid into Social Security for an extended period of time and subsequently enrolled into another federal retirement system. The new law signed by Biden is effective this month. Your brother and others may attribute the back pay and future SS checks to Trump, but they would be mistaken.

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