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MLAA

(19,640 posts)
Mon Mar 10, 2025, 10:03 AM Mar 2025

Tesla stock down nearly 10% today. Looks like Elon better sic his cost saving hackers on that little problem.

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Tesla stock down nearly 10% today. Looks like Elon better sic his cost saving hackers on that little problem. (Original Post) MLAA Mar 2025 OP
Buy the dip, dipshits Aviation Pro Mar 2025 #1
Cool! Keep protesting the Tesla showrooms/car lots! Blues Heron Mar 2025 #2
And Twitter is all fucked up too. ?Can Elon beincompetent? Walleye Mar 2025 #3
Tesla stock down, Twitter down and big boy rockets down... and its only Monday!!! winstars Mar 2025 #5
Impossible! An egomaniacal psychopath be incompetent? Never! MLAA Mar 2025 #10
While It's Well Deserved... ProfessorGAC Mar 2025 #4
Maybe the big Tesla shareholders know something that we don't. Yavin4 Mar 2025 #9
I'm Dubious ProfessorGAC Mar 2025 #11
Still way overpriced edhopper Mar 2025 #6
If That ProfessorGAC Mar 2025 #12
It's not share price that matters edhopper Mar 2025 #13
We'll Agree To Disagree ProfessorGAC Mar 2025 #14
I agree edhopper Mar 2025 #17
saw a bunmper sticker on a Tesla Johnny2X2X Mar 2025 #7
guess it is time to issue another "meme coin" so for the 5000th time the MAGA rubes can invest in nothing Takket Mar 2025 #8
TESLA INC $229.77 -$32.9 (-12.53%) HAB911 Mar 2025 #15
It's a car company priced as a tech company thanks to his worthless software and endless promises dalton99a Mar 2025 #16

MLAA

(19,640 posts)
10. Impossible! An egomaniacal psychopath be incompetent? Never!
Mon Mar 10, 2025, 10:38 AM
Mar 2025

Forget that little thing you heard about Dunning-Kruger, it’s fake news!

ProfessorGAC

(75,535 posts)
4. While It's Well Deserved...
Mon Mar 10, 2025, 10:15 AM
Mar 2025

...it's still up over 34% on the last 365 days, so there won't be a stockholder revolt just yet.
There should be, but there won't be.
It's down 41% over 6 months though, so some investors are taking a beating.

 

Yavin4

(37,182 posts)
9. Maybe the big Tesla shareholders know something that we don't.
Mon Mar 10, 2025, 10:27 AM
Mar 2025

I have no idea of what it could be.

ProfessorGAC

(75,535 posts)
11. I'm Dubious
Mon Mar 10, 2025, 10:53 AM
Mar 2025

The big holders got it early so their profits are still enormous. Just not as enormous.
And while the stock is inflated like a tech stock, they can't sell appreciable amounts without causing a downward spiral.
I think they're basically stuck with a mountain of paper profit, but as long as they still have 15-18x what they put in (the IPO price was $17) over 14 years, they're still happy with the 22.5%/year growth.
I don't think they have special knowledge, just luck.

edhopper

(36,944 posts)
6. Still way overpriced
Mon Mar 10, 2025, 10:21 AM
Mar 2025

it was in the $20 to $40 range until 2020, when the promise of self driving cars drove the price over $300.
It's Market Cap is still 4X that of Toyota, the worlds biggest car maker.
A more realistic price is down another 75%.

ProfessorGAC

(75,535 posts)
12. If That
Mon Mar 10, 2025, 10:56 AM
Mar 2025

Based on revenues, assets & earnings I think it should be much lower than Toyota. Closer to GM, I would think, which is around $48 per share.

edhopper

(36,944 posts)
13. It's not share price that matters
Mon Mar 10, 2025, 11:10 AM
Mar 2025

It's the PE Ratio. The other auto makers have a PE of 6 to 10.
Tesla's PE is 80. When it is down to 10, the stock will be priced right. That is a 75% to 80% drop.

Share price is also due to total number of shares, which differ from company to company, that is why PE and Market Cap matter.

ProfessorGAC

(75,535 posts)
14. We'll Agree To Disagree
Mon Mar 10, 2025, 12:18 PM
Mar 2025

10 is too high for a P/E given their revenues & margins.
In addition, their P/E is not 80. It's 112+.

edhopper

(36,944 posts)
17. I agree
Mon Mar 10, 2025, 01:50 PM
Mar 2025

I was being generous with the PE of 10, as that is the high end of Auto makers.
The PE was something I did a quick search for, so I accept it if yours is more accurate.

Johnny2X2X

(23,641 posts)
7. saw a bunmper sticker on a Tesla
Mon Mar 10, 2025, 10:22 AM
Mar 2025

"I bought this before we knew he was crazy."

The brand is destroyed. Customer satisfaction was very high with Tesla, but people simply won't own them anymore as it makes you a target now.

Takket

(23,398 posts)
8. guess it is time to issue another "meme coin" so for the 5000th time the MAGA rubes can invest in nothing
Mon Mar 10, 2025, 10:23 AM
Mar 2025

dalton99a

(91,497 posts)
16. It's a car company priced as a tech company thanks to his worthless software and endless promises
Mon Mar 10, 2025, 12:21 PM
Mar 2025
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