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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSenate Democrats appear ready to back down in government shutdown fight
Senate Democrats battled behind closed doors Tuesday over how to handle the House bill, with a number of Democrats especially those in swing states arguing that a government shutdown must be avoided, even if it means reluctantly voting for a House GOP-drafted bill.
Several centrists warned that theres no clear end game for ending a government shutdown if Democrats defeat the House-passed measure, which would increase defense spending by $6 billion, boost funding for border security and cut non-defense programs by $13 billion.
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/5189724-senate-democrats-government-funding-shutdown/
I've called my senators and let them know my feelings. We can't say we don't have a card to play.
I've also prepared myself for their folding. The vibes aren't good at all.
Ursus Rex
(476 posts)keep that powder dry, boys and girls, someday someone's gonna ask about it
atreides1
(16,799 posts)Cowards, the lot of them!!!
Magoo48
(6,708 posts)bucolic_frolic
(54,382 posts)Blame Republicans for refusal to compromise and hash out a budget. Give-and-take, deals, the old-fashioned way. Yes, Republicans will try to blame you, but you are being reasonable and are willing to negotiate.
We can't do everything out of fear for taking on risk. We look more impotent than we are when we won't take the best hand we have.
HereForTheParty
(915 posts)They laid it out and dared the Democrats not to pass it.
Hotler
(13,746 posts)During a previous vote Hickenlooper said, whats the use of resisting?
DENVERPOPS
(13,003 posts)the RepubliCON's "extortion" works...........
Actually, the time for DEMs to challenge was in the 1980 "election", or 2000 or 2004, 2016, or 2024.............
Celerity
(53,952 posts)Peters, Hassan, Cortez Masto, Rosen, Coons, Shaheen, Warner, Kaine, Ossoff, Warnock, Bennet, Klobuchar, Blunt Rochester, Schiff, Welch
momta
(4,196 posts)I just called them both and urged a NO vote.
republianmushroom
(22,132 posts)Bettie
(19,397 posts)by then.
It's easy to knuckle under when you have the money to ride out a depression without more than minor inconvenience.
MustLoveBeagles
(15,059 posts)I wish I could say I'm surprised.
JohnSJ
(98,883 posts)Tootbsb
(142 posts)Walleye
(44,002 posts)Baitball Blogger
(51,854 posts)moniss
(8,827 posts)anti-draft movement we are going to have to drag much of the party to do anything. Among popular culture and a sick media there has grown this illusion over the years that the party leaders and elected officials were all pushing to end the draft and get us out of Vietnam. It's not true and while we did have some elected officials who were vocal supporters and pushed for us we mostly spent years hearing people talk about "wanting to do something" and then failing to stand up when the time came.
It is not because they were Democrats it was because many of them lacked the commitment to stand up as opposed to protect themselves. Then, as now, we had some fighters and we had some "placeholders". Again it is not because they are Democrats it is because they are human beings and are who they are. Throughout my long life I have learned that courage and the willingness to lay your career on the line for what is needed and right are not found in abundance in politicians and elected leaders.
So we at the grassroots and activist level have to fight on and demand better and demand effort rather than capitulation. If they will not give us effort then we must choose people who will. People like Fetterman for example are a cancer to the party but our response can't stop at condemnation it must be immediately accompanied by a search for someone better for that office.
leftstreet
(39,330 posts)So the peons could stock up, make plans, whatever
They just seem to happen overnight and randomly, and always solved by passing a bill that contains shitty things
slightlv
(7,520 posts)knowledge of government shutdowns happens beforehand pretty often. We in the civil service knew one was coming every time we'd come to the end of fiscal year, to the end of a "CR" period, or towards a "top this in debt" discussion. Count on a shutdown, prepare for it as best you can, and then weather the weeks until it restarts. The only difference this time is thousands of government workers no longer have a job of any kind, the price of everything is high enough only the upper middle class and higher can afford it (hamburger, I'm looking at you!), and no one can see any difference between what's going on right now in government and an actual, declared shutdown.
Although each time worried me when I was working, I came to be pretty damned jaded about the shutdowns. They happened so often, and usually we'd be reimbursed once govt opened back up again. This time, I don't think reimbursement would be coming if there were a shutdown. Musk would just declared it "found" money and direct it to his or trumps bank accounts.
usonian
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newdeal2
(4,990 posts)Going along with Trump is not what we voted for.
dweller
(27,963 posts)rah rah go team
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bigtree
(93,643 posts)...and this gaslighting, Dem dividing Hill article cites TWO Democrats saying they'd vote for it as it stands.
TWO.
the buried lede:
We havent made a final decision. Were still talking about it, Senate Democratic Whip Dick Durbin (D-Ill.) said of how Democrats will handle the pivotal vote.
HereForTheParty
(915 posts)where Democratic leadership and rank and file were full throated about their opposition and delivered all but one Democratic vote. I didn't see a bunch of no comments, undecideds, and concerns about doing something "risky".
I very much hope you are right, but I'd be surprised if they didn't fold on this.
bigtree
(93,643 posts)...in opposition to the bill.
Maybe highlight and promote them instead?
That's pretty much what were good for here, when we're not dragging Dems for being out of power and control and demanding they do more to influence US out here to confront republicans.
I mean, they're already doing their confronting of republicans, right there in the committees and in the chambers where they work, where they're right now fighting the republican majority's budget CR.
HereForTheParty
(915 posts)You're correct, there are many things they can't do as the minority. But blocking the CR is something they can do.
BannonsLiver
(20,313 posts)🙄
Voltaire2
(15,377 posts)OrlandoDem2
(3,190 posts)Nanjeanne
(6,521 posts)Mr. Sparkle
(3,639 posts)if they are going to vote for the bill, they should require a lot of concessions towards good government, accountability and make sure its for a maximum of 6 months.
JBTaurus83
(958 posts)William769
(59,147 posts)What the fuck don't they get about what Opposition is? It's a bad bill, it's bad for America. It's setting up the republicans to pass even more bad shit in six months! If the Government shuts down, let it shut down! It's not like we haven't already lost have the damn Government.
GROW A FUCKING PAIR OF BALLS!
ButchMcMuffin
(81 posts)In six months.
Thank you sir! May I have another!
JustAnotherGen
(37,752 posts)Yep.
If the Government shuts down, let it shut down! It's not like we haven't already lost have the damn Government.
TheRickles
(3,211 posts)William769
(59,147 posts)TheRickles
(3,211 posts)William769
(59,147 posts)Hotler
(13,746 posts)taking cash for Yes votes.
Nanjeanne
(6,521 posts)kacekwl
(8,962 posts)I'm finding it very hard to continue.
Grins
(9,306 posts)And Im not the first to say that.
dalton99a
(92,662 posts)ButchMcMuffin
(81 posts)Sgt Shultz.
JBTaurus83
(958 posts)With a smile.
ck4829
(37,470 posts)synni
(693 posts)There is literally no other explanation.
mzmolly
(52,701 posts)LuvLoogie
(8,616 posts)Gosh. If only the media would write nice things about the Dems, they might pick up the phone.
I was going to semi retire in a few years with my Social Sec., Medicare and a side hustle. My younger daughter has CP with a an IEP. My older daughter is in the beginnings of a relationship with her first girlfriend. She ended her 2 year relationship with her first boyfriend back in early December. At least we live in Illinois.
I really hate that I have MAGA relatives. It is heartbreaking.
I really don't see any light at the end of the tunnel. I have no plans. I can only live in the moment.
It's all going to come crashing down. Our political leadership have no ideas. They only talk about what they might do instead of just doing it.
Fuck this.
BrianTheEVGuy
(697 posts)Dems are the minority party. The Republicans own the entire process and its outcome. Theres zero strategic benefit to filibustering.
Let the people who voted the GOP into majority party status in both houses get a nice heaping helping of what they voted for and realize it tastes a lot like dog shit. Thats how we swing things our way in the short term special House elections as well as in the midterms.
Filibustering accomplishes nothing. Just vote no and hang the albatross around GOP reps and senators who supported it.
Kali999
(289 posts)Says to let it ride until Sept. It somewhat makes sense. Also stated that if it went on over 30 days it would give Trump other powers. Its on Talking Points Memo. I called my senators and got music. And left a message for the other one. Anyways reading that made me less anxious.
Fil1957
(611 posts)the go-to Democratic strategy.
orangecrush
(29,104 posts)Passages
(3,986 posts)Whoever caves is not honest with their constituents, nor are they doing the right thing.
Katcat
(557 posts)Spineless
JMCKUSICK
(5,331 posts)And then disconnected. That's just not a good way to treat your voters.
If we lay down here, there won't be anything left in six months.
Like history hasn't taught us this lesson again and again.
Eliot Rosewater
(34,282 posts)It will be used as why when they eliminate and steal Social Security Medicare the Democrats are to blame.
No way to win here
Marvin Jones
(30 posts)I took the oath to support and defend the Constitution "against all enemies, foreign and domestic." Democrats, would you please fight the domestic enemy? He is the Chief Traitor who occupies the White House. Or does the oath mean nothing to you?
Pisces
(6,173 posts)I will donate to up and coming dems that will fight for us!! Giving in to Trump is not the way. He will continue to pull the football away! Why are we playing his game!!! We need to be aggressive in our response, it is the only thing this guy understands. Strength and money is all he respects!! Anything else is weakness to him!!!!!
Buddyzbuddy
(2,273 posts)"Senate Democrats" and "Senate centrists", all bone and no meat. The comments here are all angry and or negative about Democrats because of a generalized non specific accounting. I know I felt pissed off at Democrats when I initially read this, and then I re-read it. Is it lazy, manipulative crap? I don't know. What I do know is that Mike Johnson couldn't have written it better himself. He said the Democrats would be responsible for shutting down the Gov't. They are the party in charge but the purpose was to create public anger at Democrats. The Hill report, same purpose. We already know we have some Senators go along to get along and they should be getting calls. But, our true anger should remain at the Republicans.
Sure, we should call our Senators to let them know we support shutting down the Gov't as a result of rejecting this CR. But I'm tired of the manipulation of my emotions over bad reporting.
Aepps22
(367 posts)Id give cover to 6 senators in swing states that are up for reelection cover to vote yes and then everyone else vote no. Hick and Mike Benet are safe here in Colorado so they should vote no. While the government is shutdown our side needs to be vocal about why the shutdown is necessary.
Thrill
(19,342 posts)We already know thats never going to change
Moostache
(11,085 posts)Sorry, I am unable to donate anything to a feckless bunch of craven cowards more interested in THEIR seats than OUR country or THE PEOPLE'S TROUBLES.
You get NOTHING, good day sir.
3825-87867
(1,814 posts)and the dems will wring their hands and contact Ms. Collins on how to write "sternly worded letters of concern!"
But remember, NONE of them or their families will suffer ONE BIT whether the government shuts down or not.
And also, don't forget THEY still get paid even if the gov shuts down.
Like the old song, most of them are "too old to cut the mustard anymore." Time for new young blood...IF...there's a 2026!
LauraInLA
(2,248 posts)Tansy_Gold
(18,167 posts)Give in, and give up.
There is no fight in them at all. Which is worse, Senators? A six week or even a six month shut-down . . . . or a total, complete, irrevocable destruction of the US, shredding of the Constitution you assholes swore to defend? As far as I'm concerned, every last one of you appeasers ought to resign now and turn your badges over to 🍉 and 💩 and go ride it out on a beach in Cancun. You're not doing it for "the country". You're doing it to protect your own power and at the same time ceding every iota of that power to the madmen who are going to destroy you, me, and everyone else.
Go right ahead, DU, and report me. I've been sitting on at least one jury almost every day and half the "charges" are so minor as to be laughable. Can't say a word of criticism of an elected leader, not even "constructive" criticism or, heaven forbid, mild disagreement. This is not the time for spinelessness or mealy-mouthedness. What is an exercise in theoretical existential crisis is very fucking real for a lot of very fucking real people. I'm one of them, and I'm tired of this wimpy-ass bullshit.
We've complained about the GOPers and their cruelty, their greed, their avarice, their grabs for power. But now it's the Dems doing the same damn thing. Worried about how it would look when they're next up for election. Fuck 'em. They should be worried about the people who voted for them, people who are going to go hungry, lose their homes, or even die.
Yeah, you, Chuckie Cheese Schumer. Yeah, you, Hakeem Jefferies. Yeah, you, Jared Golden. Yeah, you, John Fetterman. What the ever living fuck is the matter with you? A shut down isn't going to hurt your personal fortunes. And if you stand up to the bullies who are hurting OUR fortunes, you might find your futures are more secure than if you just roll over and play dead.
To paraphrase a courageous TV economist, at the risk of losing my posting privileges on DU, this appeasement shit is insane.
TygrBright
(21,316 posts)Nanjeanne
(6,521 posts)TygrBright
(21,316 posts)Nanjeanne
(6,521 posts)dweller
(27,963 posts)
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moonshinegnomie
(3,924 posts)simple as that. its unacceptable. and if schumer cant convince them then its time for him to go too. IM sick and tired of these weak willed dems... if they dont have the backbone to stand up to fascism then there is no place or them. Until the dems grow a spine i will not donate one red cent to them. nor will i do a thing to help them in any future election.
maybe we need the likes of AOC to run the party instead of what i can only describe as weak willed wimps...
spanone
(141,165 posts)Kill Me.
FormerOstrich
(2,877 posts)I wouldn't be concerned about being blamed for a shutdown.....I'd view it as getting credit for shutting it down.
Why keep it open just to expedite destroying it. Shut it down. Vote NO. Trump gets his power from those that give it to him. Do NOT give him more power. Stand firm.
--Thomas Jefferson
Orrex
(66,771 posts)dweller
(27,963 posts)Not really
Im just nekkie
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Easterncedar
(5,709 posts)This is a Bad Bad deal.
Srkdqltr
(9,476 posts)bif
(26,748 posts)republianmushroom
(22,132 posts)ibegurpard
(17,077 posts)alarimer
(17,146 posts)But if this is so, primary anyone who votes for this Enabling Act.
JustAnotherGen
(37,752 posts)I will give up all hope.
GPV
(73,378 posts)bigtree
(93,643 posts)...first gotta point the gun in the right direction.
No prize for shooting your own hunting party.
GPV
(73,378 posts)Liberal In Texas
(16,064 posts)Leave a comment:
The weeks of performative âresistanceâ from those in my party were limited to undignified antics.
— U.S. Senator John Fetterman (@fetterman.senate.gov) 2025-03-11T22:16:15.613Z
Voting to shut the government down will punish millions or risk a recession.
I disagree with many points in the CR, but I will never vote to shut our government down.