No Dept. of Education? Now who is going to help all those special needs students and their parents who ...

[Botany]

… work or take care of other kids & family members as their special needs children are at school?

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“In the 2022-2023 school year, the U.S. Department of Education (DoE) served approximately 7.5 million students with disabilities, representing roughly 15% of the total student population, through programs established by the Individuals with Disabilities Education Act (IDEA).”

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If parents can’t work because they now have to take care of their children or that would be
a huge drain on the economy and emotionally devastating to the families too. Is this just part
of Krasnov and Musk’s job to burn America to the ground in order to help Putin?

BTW getting the D o E out of helping special needs kids is front and center in project 2025.
How very Christian of those shits.

[Lovie777]

1. Ya think shithole musk republicans care?.................

if they did, none of the destruction of the US government would be happening.

[Botany]

4. It is all right there in project 2025 .... Cruelty is the point for Trump/Musk/Putin/Christo Fascists/maga folks

Hey, the child shouldn’t have been born that way anyway. Why did he/she choose to be born like that?

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Abolishing the Department of Education: While dismantling the department is
practically impossible, this pronouncement shows the risks Project 2025 poses to
educational opportunity. In addition to gutting federal funding, undercutting civil rights
enforcement, and eviscerating the agency’s responsibility to promote equal educational
opportunity, attacking the federal role in education would halt and reverse progress we
have made in ensuring all students have the chance to learn, grow, and thrive.

https://civilrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/Project-2025-Education.pdf

[NotHardly]

12. The first to be killed by Hitler were the disabled...just a note.

[Ol Janx Spirit]

2. Private Christian schools which they will now funnel tax dollars to in order to fill that gap.

This has long been the dream of those that want to push Christianity on Americans. So now if you want care for your special needs child you will have to endure having them indoctrinated into a Christian sect of some flavor. It will be the first of many efforts to push Americans into a religious-based education.

[Lonestarblue]

13. Private schools can reject students that public schools cannot.

Some private Christian schools may accept special needs kids, but I doubt that those run by the extremist white evangelicals will. Their Christian empathy seems to extend only to white heterosexual kids, especially the males who will be taught that they are the rulers of everyone.

[Dulcinea]

3. They don't care.

Eloon Muskovite's tax cut isn't going to pay for itself. Something's gotta give, & it won't be him. He paid good money for this president & this administration, & he expects a good ROI.

[XanaDUer2]

5. DUers are political hounds

So we pay more attention. I hit the highlights of Project 2025. It was there for any voter to read. I feel for those who voted for Harris. The egg voters will have to figure it out. I'm not even sure they knew what the DOE did for their kids.

[MichMan]

6. They may transfer those programs to another department like HHS

The Dept of Education wasn't created as a stand alone cabinet office until 1980. Prior to that it was part of Health, Education, and Welfare which was renamed HHS in 1979 when Education was removed.

[Dan]

7. How will they staff it with the cuts taking place

Combined with the loss of institutional knowledge.

[Silent Type]

8. That's what I think will happen too. Combine them with another department. Special Ed, like most education, is

largely provided at local level with some funding and direction from feds. And from personal experience, even my rube red state does a decent -- though not perfect -- job of helping kids with special needs.

Thanks for posting a bit of sanity.

[InstantGratification]

10. It doesn't work that way where I live

I asked the senior IT guy in our local school district (both because he is a friend and he sits in on the budget meetings) what would happen. He told be that for the general student population about 10% of the funding came from the feds. If that were lost, it would hurt, but they could absorb the cuts. For special needs almost 100% of the money is federal. Ohio would have to make up the difference or leave them hanging.

I too, hope that the money would move to another agency and be distributed to the states that way. I have my doubts about that though. Not that anything these clowns are doing makes sense, but it wouldn't make sense to cut the people but move the funding to another agency. The federal work force is about 4% of the federal budget, to get the spending cuts they want, they HAVE to cut the programs too, not just the payroll.

[Tansy_Gold]

16. This appears to be true in other states as well

I have a family member who teaches special needs students in a large public school system in a very blue state. They told me that virtually all the funding for their job comes from DOE. If that funding is cut, their job will be cut, too. They may be able to transfer into a "general/core subject" teaching position, but that's not guaranteed. Funding for general education in their system will not be affected by DOE cuts. This is in a very blue part of a very blue state.

[Cosmocat]

14. A LOT of the money comes from the feds

As someone who has knowledge of it, you are correct that the services provided are local.

The baseline special education services are provided by local and state $, the classrooms, general texts, teachers. But, the great portion of the specific services provided are funded by the feds.

The depth and quality of special education at the k-12 would take a major hit without federal funds.

Also, as parents of a needs child and being family with that community, there are a large portion of "conservatives" with need students, and I have long tried to explain that their children will be in jeopardy, but as with most things they tend to entitled and narcisistic, and it was a lost cause.

They will lose their minds if their child loses services, while still railing on about the liberals and voting their "values."

[Silent Type]

18. Combining the Dept of Ed with another agency does not necessarily change funding. I get that is also a fear,

but trump can combine the department, cut some staff, and claim victory. His rube supporters will cheer, but little will change on local services because as you say, GOPers have kids too. At least that is my hope.

Same with Social Security, GOPers ain't gonna like having to pay for mom/grandma's living and health expenses if SS or Medicare are cut.

Again, I get the concern.

[MichMan]

20. Wonder what percentage of DOE funds are actually distributed to the schools themselves?

There has to be a certain amount of administration costs and overhead, but I have no idea how much.

[JT45242]

9. And they already shut down the Civil Rights division -- so consider it open season on minorties and women in schools

As a former teacher still in the education industry, they will try to kill all public schools. Then the for profit schools will be able to keep out disabled, students of color, and women.

They will try to go al Y'all Qaeda and ban girls from schools in the near future... at least the poor ones.

[nowforever]

11. Plus

The DoE oversees the majority of student loans and grants. Turn the loans back to private lenders and you will destroy the ability of many people to attend college. Destroying the DoE will demolish not only public schools but the entire higher education system.

[Fyrefox]

15. Our coming patchwork-quilt nation...

When diverse matters concerning education, women's health, and others are relegated back to state control as Republicans want done, we'll be left with a patchwork quilt of differing state regulations where your rights, benefits, and services you can receive will depend on the state that you live in. People with the financial means to do so will migrate to those states where living conditions are more favorable to them, or engage in a kind of tourism for one-time needs like abortion.- - It's no way to run a nation!

[LiberalArkie]

17. Best to check with countries like Somalia or Afghanistan to see how they handle it

[OneGrassRoot]

19. I hope there's a HUGE movement to not pay student loans if the DoE is dismantled...

I don't care if it'll transfer to another lender. I don't care if it's illegal. How can they jail millions of us?

[MichMan]

22. People aren't jailed for not paying loans

The lenders usually garnish wages, and bank accounts plus SS for student loans

[JCMach1]

21. Answer: they don't care

[Passages]

23. The lawmakers would need to destroy IDEA, and FAPE first.

SCOTUS is not likely to do that, considering they reaffirmed IDEA in recent years.

Supreme Court Reaffirms Special Education Precedent
The United States Supreme Court ruled yesterday in a unanimous decision clarifying the legal standard federal courts must apply in evaluating individualized education plans (IEPs) for students with disabilities under the Individuals with Disabilities Education Act (IDEA). In Endrew F. v. Douglas County School District, the Court held that, under IDEA, IEPs for students with disabilities should be “reasonably calculated to enable a child to make progress appropriate in light of the child’s circumstances.” The decision reaffirms and clarifies the Court’s prior findings, notably in Board of Education of Hendrick Hudson Central School District, Westchester County v. Rowley, 458 U.S. 176 (1982).

The Court’s decision largely rejected the arguments for the application of a more stringent standard, as urged by both the petitioners in the case and the U.S. government. Instead, the Endrew decision – as with the Rowley decision before it – stopped short of presenting a bright-line standard, offered significant deference to the professional judgment of educators, and underscored that the federal courts should not substitute their judgments for the reasoned assessments of educational experts.

The ruling and discussion in the opinion significantly reflect the legal arguments set forth in an amicus curiae brief presented to the Court by the Council of the Great City Schools, the primary coalition of urban public school systems in the United States. The brief was authored by the legal team for the Council and a team of attorneys from Husch Blackwell’s Education group led by partner John W. Borkowski.

“We are pleased the Supreme Court appears to have heard the arguments we raised and been sensitive to the concerns of urban school districts,” said Michael Casserly, Executive Director of the Council of the Great City Schools. “This ruling is workable and will encourage our districts to continue their important work to develop education programs for all students that are designed to help them make educational progress.”
https://www.huschblackwell.com/inthenews/supreme-court-reaffirms-special-education-precedent