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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums'I'm getting mad': Judge reams Trump lawyers and threatens mass rehiring over 'sham' docs
You do not lie or try to mislead a federal judge. This judge is pissed
Link to tweet
https://www.rawstory.com/william-alsup-trump-lawyers/
At a hearing on Thursday, Alsup became angry after acting Office of Personnel Management (OPM) Director Charles Ezell refused an order to testify on the Trump administration's mass firings. The case was brought in February by the American Federation of Government Employees.
"You will not bring the people in here to be cross-examined. You're afraid to do so because you know cross-examination would reveal the truth," the judge told government lawyers, according to Slate's Mark Joseph Stern.
"I tend to doubt that you're telling me the truth whenever we hear all the evidence eventually. Why can't you bring your people in to be cross-examined or deposed at their convenience?" he continued. "I said two hours for Mr. Ezell. A deposition at his convenience. And you withdrew his declaration rather than do that? Come on. That's a sham. It upsets me, I want you to know that."
"I've been practicing in this court for over 50 years and I know how we get at the truth. And you're not helping me get at the truth. You're giving me press releases, sham documents. I'm getting mad."
BOSSHOG
(44,738 posts)Providing sham documents? Thank You Judge Alsup.
progressoid
(53,179 posts)SHOCKED, I tells ya.
LetMyPeopleVote
(179,868 posts)Response to LetMyPeopleVote (Original post)
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FirstLight
(15,771 posts)With us feeling *so* overwhelmed and overpowered as a people, we need to hear and see more of those who are doing the hard work of calling out for TRUTH...!!
LisaM
(29,634 posts)Nope. It's Jake Tapper bothering AOC and blaming Democrats for everything.
FirstLight
(15,771 posts)God we need to unplug the MSM and wake up the people
PSPS
(15,321 posts)Wake me when anyone is actually held to account for their malfeasance.
TheRickles
(3,386 posts)It seems like these legal processes can go on forever, and no one is ever actually punished in any concrete or tangible way.
paleotn
(22,218 posts)BattleRow
(2,449 posts)"Im mad as hell and I'm not taking it anymore!"
ewcordon
(35 posts)We could use some Abbie Hoffman and some Weather Underground.
Ford_Prefect
(8,610 posts)Figarosmom
(11,989 posts)He did order reinstatement of jobs.
AllaN01Bear
(29,490 posts)paleotn
(22,218 posts)Damn you to hell, Merrick Garland.
republianmushroom
(22,326 posts)ancianita
(43,307 posts)paleotn
(22,218 posts)I stand by my comment. If there is a hell, I hope to hell Merrick Garland ends up there. He failed his country. Sometimes I wonder if it was on purpose.
ancianita
(43,307 posts)to examine the government's "waste and inefficiency" through DOGE.
TheRickles
(3,386 posts)ancianita
(43,307 posts)Neither of us are lawyers, so we'd have to spend a lot of time looking up the case law made by the 121 cases of plaintiffs, but they revolve around constitutional amendments being broken.
https://www.justsecurity.org/107087/tracker-litigation-legal-challenges-trump-administration/
I've already written an OP on the cases being litigated so far. https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220130096#post10
TheRickles
(3,386 posts)I was mainly wondering about this one case in the OP, where the judge has scolded the lawyers for giving him "sham" documents. The fired workers may end up being re-hired, but are these lawyers likely to suffer any sort of penalty for their conduct? Thanks.
