⚠️ Schumer to vote YES for cloture

[demmiblue]

Leah McElrath
‪@leahmcelrath.bsky.social‬

⚠️ Schumer to vote YES for cloture

Jake Sherman €
@JakeSherman

And there it is.

Schumer will vote for cloture. Needs 6 more Dems to follow him. Fetterman said he will already.

Andrew Desiderio @ @Andre... • 3m

NEWS - Schumer told Dems during closed-door lunch that he would vote for cloture tomorrow morning.
Schumer is speaking on the floor short...

4:47 PM • 3/13/25 • 4.5K Views

March 13, 2025 at 5:51 PM

⚠️ Schumer to vote YES for cloture

— Leah McElrath (@leahmcelrath.bsky.social) 2025-03-13T21:51:47.406Z

[WhiskeyGrinder]

1. lol

[hlthe2b]

6. Maybe it is hyperbolic to say/think and this is but the first step...

but your "lol" seems a bit like laughing at our own pending destruction.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

12. Perhaps better understood as a contemptuous unsurprised snort.

[617Blue]

17. Schumer is Trump's plaything. I hope Trump keeps insulting him. Chuck don't mind.

[Bayard]

2. My mistake

I thought he was better than this. Who else is going to cave?

[617Blue]

15. They're gonna be down to about 40 Senators in a couple of years.

Demoralizing their own people to coddle to MAGA.

[Dave says]

25. I think that's true

[SocialDemocrat61]

30. That he publicly opposed Obama

on the Iran nuclear deal tells you everything you need to know about Schumer.

[JMCKUSICK]

4. I'm so frustrated with

People who go with the wind. Less than 24;hours ago, we got word that he had the votes to stop it.
I'm tired of feeling conned.

[MustLoveBeagles]

122. You and me both

[BlueTsunami2018]

5. Cowards.

We have no one on our side.

[senseandsensibility]

7. He's just not able to meet the moment

I hope this proves it.

[Ace Rothstein]

8. This guy is no longer fit for a leadership posiition.

[Nanjeanne]

9. Gillibrand is voting yes too. So they are saying we don't like the bill and think it's a dangerous bill but

we cede our power to block it so Rs can pass it with 51 votes and we Dems can say we let them pass this horrible bill so they can keep the government open and let them continue to ignore the the 3 branches of government in order to keep destroying the government we are voting to keep open. SMART.

[SocialDemocrat61]

31. Has she issued a statement?

[Mme. Defarge]

74. From those wonderful people

who got rid of Al Franken?

[dgauss]

75. Gillibrand is is a member of the Alfalfa Club.

Just ran across this in another post:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220134301

I don't know much about about Gillibrand or the Alfalfa Club but this did kind of stick out. Maybe Gillibrand was doing some "hobnobbing."

The Alfalfa Club had been around since 1913 and existed solely to host a yearly banquet where the most important people in government could hobnob with the most important people in business. Membership was limited to around 200, and the Alfalfas admitted new “sprouts” only when existing members died. That evening, Supreme Court justice Elena Kagan and Nasdaq CEO Adena Friedman joined the likes of Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella and US senator Kirsten Gillibrand as members. Musk was attending as a guest.

[steelyboo]

90. So basically a Third Way piece of trash

Still remember the early '90s and the debate about these corporate bootlickers run the Democratic Party. We got 2 Republican-lite presidents with great economies out of it. Only cost us our soul and future.

[617Blue]

10. Not another penny.

[FHRRK]

11. NY needs two new SENATORS

As a CA resident I often got pissed at Feinstein for her actions. We are already fighting at a disadvantage, don’t need Dems in solid blue States to be weak.

With that NY already has one proven solid option in AOC as a replacement.

[senseandsensibility]

13. You have a good point about the safety of their seats

Makes their cowardice even worse.

[CentralMass]

18. Those two serve Wall St.

[FHRRK]

22. Yup

Which it is extremely important to fill the seats with proven Democrats. Can’t risk another Fetterman scam.

[SSJVegeta]

27. AOC should run for President in 2028. NY doesnt have a Senate election till then

[demmiblue]

14. Josh Marshall from an hour ago: ... This persons likely Yeses on cloture are. Schumer, Hassan, Peters, Durbin, Schatz,

Don't take this as gospel. It's not official. It's a very knowledgable source's best understanding of the situation. This persons likely Yeses on cloture are. Schumer, Hassan, Peters, Durbin, Schatz, King, Shaheen, Fetterman, Cortez Masto and Gillibrand.

Don't take this as gospel. It's not official. It's a very knowledgable source's best understanding of the situation. This persons likely Yeses on cloture are. Schumer, Hassan, Peters, Durbin, Schatz, King, Shaheen, Fetterman, Cortez Masto and Gillibrand.

— Josh Marshall (@joshtpm.bsky.social) 2025-03-13T20:51:37.640Z

[SSJVegeta]

19. So.. they have 63?

[alarimer]

36. All should be primaried for voting with the fascists

Utterly spineless

[Javaman]

107. I wonder if schumer will wave the budget

At a crowd much like chamberlain

[spanone]

16. WTF?

[Deuxcents]

20. All blow and no go

[Captain Zero]

42. I got a donation appeal from the DNC today

That envelope is going back EMPTY to the attention of these quislings if they vote with Republicans to throw us to the wolves.

Not another penny.

[JoseBalow]

95. You should actually return it with two pennies

and a note that says "you suck"

[mountain grammy]

96. Only one?

I got at least a dozen.. I'm a donor, but not to this.. completely demoralizing.

[Meowmee]

21. Why am I not surprised?

I knew I was wasting my time emailing them. Have voted for both of them for years and there was no other choice. I guess I can’t even remember now. I don’t know why I voted for this party for over 40 years. They never did anything that helped me and now they screwed me over a big time and are apparently going to ruin the country by not fighting R strongly.

I give up at this point. I always knew that they were the better alternative for everybody. I didn’t have to be coddled or made excited to vote for somebody. I always voted for whoever the candidate is it’s the other voters that really suck. Narcissistic idiots have destroyed this country for good. FU to all of you.

[617Blue]

33. Well put. Feel the same. nt

[RJ-MacReady]

23. If they vote yes

I am seriously going to consider leaving the party.

[617Blue]

28. What Party? It's a collection of people with disparate agendas. I've never been this down on them.

[regnaD kciN]

102. Just call them the "Vichy Party"...

[Captain Zero]

46. It needs to be the Democratic Freedom Party

Schumer needs to resign his leadership post.

[Lovie777]

24. Thats to proceed with the vote, no more debates.....

[questionseverything]

58. It's the only 60 vote threshold

After cloture the repubs don’t need democratic votes

With holding cloture was the only chance to stop them

[kelly1mm]

93. Most here on DU were calling for the abolition of the filibuster

Last year. Even many Senate Democrats were on record for ending it. Remember how it was portrayed as an ‘undemocratic relic of Jim Crow’?

For some reason now we are supposed to support the filibuster?

[questionseverything]

98. At this point I would support anything that slows the country's

Descent into madness

[kelly1mm]

99. Well I guess it is good then that the Democrats in the Senate did not get rid of the filibuster then. A new

found respect for Senator Manchin and Senator Sinema is sure to follow .......

[manicdem]

118. It's a cycle

Fillerbuster good, fillerbuster bad, fillerbuster good, fillerbuster bad...

[kelly1mm]

120. Correct. And it (in theory) shouldn't be. I am on team 'filibuster good' which is (or was) a minority

position here on DU.

[Passages]

26. Keep breaking my heart why don't ya.

[Jon Ace]

29. Disgusting

What has happened to this party?

[alarimer]

32. Primary him

He's useless.

[Renew Deal]

44. 2028

Hopefully he chooses to not run for re-election.

[Dave says]

37. Um, that means certain passage

The Repubs have 53 Senators.

[sakabatou]

71. I know, and I hate it.

[LonePirate]

55. What do you think happens next?

Cloture passes and then the House CR passes because now it only needs 50 votes instead of 60 votes. Schumer and crew are guaranteeing it passes even though they had the power to prevent it from happening.

To say I am ashamed to be a Democrat today is a massive understatement.

[JohnSJ]

78. I asked the question below and was told if they vote for cloture, then the filibuster is out the door, and all they need

is a simple majority, which the rethugs have.

[awesomerwb1]

79. if it goes to the floor it passes with a simple majority

[BannonsLiver]

35. A massive betrayal after what he said yesterday.

I have a very low opinion of most senate Democrats, especially Schumer. Unfortunately, I am forced to leave it at that.

[617Blue]

40. IMO the real betrayal and reason why he should be forced out is the bullshit head fake from yesterday.

It reeks of incompetence and lack of control. Clown.

[BannonsLiver]

48. I agree on that point as well.

I gave up on him after he publicly cried over something Trump did in his first term. I'm not opposed to men crying. Not at all. But you NEVER EVER give the enemy the satisfaction of seeing that. The satisfaction of knowing they got to you.

[sprinkleeninow]

50. So my phone message to Schumer's NY location was in vain

and means squat then? Along with a multitude of others messaging to allow the shutdown to happen?

Thanx for nothing...

[DSandra]

97. I've seen Dems cave time after time for the last 25 years, a TON of Americans...

Are TIRED of the Dems lacking spine!

[Javaman]

108. And it's that historic caving that got us here.

I’m very close to bing done with everything.

repukes that lie and Dems that don’t fight

The old saying of “the road to hell is paved with good intentions”, we are now entering hell but there never any good intentions, just one bad move by the Dems after another

We all deserve all the misery we get.

We elected weaklings and we expected lions.

[DSandra]

111. When you only have two choices...

[kacekwl]

38. Somebody anybody tell me the truth.

God damn it I'm so sick of being jerked around. Is it a fucking yes or is it a no ? Knock this shit off.

[617Blue]

47. The truth? The GOP is a functioning political party and the Dems are just a collection of politicians.

[Attilatheblond]

39. When I get 'please donate' letters from him, I write & consider sending back a letter as to why he can stop asking me

From now on, I send the letters.

[usonian]

92. Not from Schumer, but my unsubscribe from emails takes me to a why question.

And I unload. No action, no money.

And more, that I conveniently forgot.

[senseandsensibility]

41. So yesterday's position was just

a head fake?

[Renew Deal]

43. He should resign

It wouldn't make a difference and one less vote for the republican agenda.

[ImNotGod]

45. I'm with the progressive caucus who did not cave in, say NO to cloture! nt

[SamKnause]

49. If they keep this shit up what will be the reason we will need to vote ???

We vote them in.

They don't fight for us.

They vote against our best interest.

How the fuck can any of this shit be stopped ???

[LonePirate]

51. What's the point of being a Democrat nowadays?

Our leaders in Congress are content to give Republicans everything they want.

I feel for the interns managing the phones and email messages in Schumer’s office as they are going to be on the receiving end of hell.

[pinkstarburst]

62. Schumer doesn't seem to get it.

We look weak. We are weak. Only AOC, Elizabeth Warren, Bernie Sanders and Jasmine Crockett are actually taking the fight to the streets. Newsom is courting votes on the right (newsflash: they are not going to vote for us! Repubs turn out and they consistently vote for their guy!) and we are doing a weak ass job of firing up our side. Wish we could get Schumer out of there and get a fighter like Elizabeth Warren as minority leader.

[Mossfern]

52. WHY?

Why?
Why?
Why?

I want an explanation!
They are ceding the government to a mad man and his lackey - you choose which is which.

[pinkstarburst]

53. Spineless. That's it for donations

to the democratic party. Not one more cent. Not for 2026 races. Not for 2028. Nothing. Not one cent of my money.

All we can do is wear pink and hold up paddles? This is why we are getting defeated. We are weak. We are spineless. They are going to cut medicaid and Schumer is going to make it happen. Can we get someone leading us in the senate other than Schumer? I'm thinking Warren would be a good choice. She doesn't roll over to oligarchs.

[Docreed2003]

54. These are NOT normal times

Normal "give and take", normal "compromise", normal "order"...NORMAL DOESN'T FUCKING EXIST ANYMORE.

That ship sailed a helluva long time ago. I've said here before whenever folks ask "how did we get here" that the GOP has played the long game, they decided power was better than compromise decades ago, and they sacrificed everything this country was supposed to stand on to attain that goal. When a whole generation of GOP leaders have been trained up to believe that not only is their worldview "Christian" that the Democratic perspective is Satanic, you can't compromise with that mentality, no matter how hard you might try. The weak assed attempts to "restore normal" when our side has gained political leverage has only served to weaken us further.

We are living through an authoritarian takeover decades in the making. Compromise will only further their goals.

[JohnSJ]

57. WTF. Does anyone here know what Cloture actually means?

[ibegurpard]

61. Yes

It means they will vote not to filibuster and allow a vote to proceed on the actual CR.
So unless 4 Republicans join Democrats to vote no it will pass.
Voting no on cloture would block it unless enough Democrats vote yes to clear a 60 vote threshold. Unless Republicans change the rule to eliminate the filibuster for legislative things like this.

[JohnSJ]

64. Thank-you

[Lovie777]

68. Correct.................

GQP will still need 60 to pass the actual bill.

[ibegurpard]

72. No they won't

That is what cloture is. Allowing the issue to move forward to an actual vote.
The filibuster is another way think of cloture. If you voted for cloture you are voting to give up the 60 vote threshold on that issue.

[LonePirate]

66. Cloture is basically the Senate term for managing/ending debate on a bill.

All bills essentially have an infinite amount of debate time in the Senate. Thus the Senate uses cloture to end debate on a bill and bring it up for a vote. 60 votes are currently needed to pass a cloture motion. Once cloture passes and debate in a bill ends, they can proceed to vote on the bill. The final vote on a bill only requires a majority (or a 50-50 tie plus the VP) to pass. Repubs have 53 votes so their bill will pass. Dems could only stop the bill by refusing to pass the cloture resolution.

[JohnSJ]

69. Thank-you. So that means the filibuster is essentially out the door. Damn

[LonePirate]

83. Yes. The filibuster is the infinite debate which the 60 vote cloture measure brings to a halt.

[JohnSJ]

87. I guess my question then is the cloture on a temporary extension, or on the draconian CR bill?

Because this is what I thought the Democrats were going to do:

""I think we're going to all be 'no' on cloture unless we get an agreement to propose at least this 30-day clean [continuing resolution] amendment and maybe a couple of others," Sen. Tim Kaine of Virginia told reporters Thursday morning. "So we'll be 'no' on cloture unless we get an agreement to do that. I'm not aware of whether the Republicans have agreed to that yet, but we'll be 'no' on cloture if we don't get it, and I think that's a unified position.""

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/government-shutdown-2025-senate-democrats-vote/

There are posts implying that the cloture is on the original CR, not a temporary one.

Can someone correct my confusion please.

Thanks in advance.

[ibegurpard]

89. It doesn't matter

If they voted yes for cloture they lose their 60 vote leverage.
If they vote yes for cloture with the condition of BEING ABLE to vote for a clean resolution they lose their leverage in exchange for a vote that won't pass. Unless 4 repukes magically decide to vote for a clean resolution.

[JohnSJ]

91. I got it Thanks. It's over.

[Nanjeanne]

70. 60 votes are needed for cloture so it's a way to block the vote from being brought to the floor. But once

the bill is on the floor a simple majority passes it.

So basically Dems are saying this is a horrible bill but we will let them pass Republicans pass it anyway. Then they pat themselves on the back and say we didn’t vote for the bill we just let the Rs pass it and Ds say we kept the government open even though it meant Rs can continue to rape and pillage it.

If they didn’t vote Yes on cloture the bill would not come to the floor. Then they pat government t might shut down and ads are too scared of their own tails to defend a vote that is completely defendable with the right messaging.

[JohnSJ]

73. Then that means its over. GEEZ!!!

[Nanjeanne]

113. Yes. The bill is so bad Ds won't vote for it but I guess not bad enough to stop it from passing even when they have the

Power to stop it.

[JohnSJ]

116. If they refused to vote for cloture, would the rethugs compromise?

or would not care if the government shut down?

Then what?

[Nanjeanne]

117. Probably not. Maybe. But probably not. But if a shut down happened, there's a way to message the decision

I think to not fall into R talking points.

Also one part of the bill basically guts DC because it would essentially treat DC as a federal agency, forcing the city to revert to its 2024 fiscal year budget. DC officials say this would force the city to make $1.1 billion in cuts to services in a six-month period. DC government leaders say it would include cuts to DC Police, Fire and EMS, 911 Services, Metro and DC Public Schools. That’s not a good look for Dems but no one is really paying attention to this piece.

[JohnSJ]

121. I know and I hear you. Personally I think it is a no win situation either way, and the people who need those services

are the ones who will suffer.

[HereForTheParty]

59. I'm sure Rachel and Lawrence will express their outrage

[SnoopDog]

60. That means Schumer and any other Senator who votes for this is wanting to end America's Constitution

How else can you interpret that?

[bob4460]

63. Put the pressure on him

Make sure that this will be his legacy, and he will never be able to be elected again.

[Scrivener7]

104. You can't. I've tried his phone number in every one of his offices. You can't leave a message.

[electric_blue68]

114. I've been able to leave a message at times but I took 16 days off bc I was so stressed....

Just back the past few days, catching up .
I think (dealing with sleep schedule problems), I was able to leave a message .

[JBTaurus83]

65. And this is why I restrict my donations

To specific candidates and causes. The leadership coming out of the senate is a sad joke.

[JT45242]

67. You left the fucking filibuster for them to stop progress...but don't use it to stop evil

Spineless and worthless are the only words that come to mind.

[demmiblue]

76. SCHUMER just now: "While the CR bill is very bad, the potential for a shutdown has consequences for America that are ...

Sahil Kapur
‪@sahilkapur.bsky.social‬

SCHUMER just now: "While the CR bill is very bad, the potential for a shutdown has consequences for America that are much, much worse."

March 13, 2025 at 6:32 PM

SCHUMER just now: "While the CR bill is very bad, the potential for a shutdown has consequences for America that are much, much worse."

— Sahil Kapur (@sahilkapur.bsky.social) 2025-03-13T22:32:48.307Z

[Efilroft Sul]

77. Trump was wrong, Schumer isn't a Palestinian. A Palestinian actually resists.

[Liberal In Texas]

80. Sen. Schumer on Bluesky. Tell him what you think. He was on there as late as 4 hours ago.

https://bsky.app/profile/schumer.senate.gov
I've left a couple of opinions.

[doc03]

81. As expected. nt

[DonCoquixote]

82. is anyone who critizes Schumer

going to get p censured moderators?

[sop]

84. Schumer urged Biden to quit the race, saying Dems would lose the White House and Senate if he stayed.

Thanks, Chuck.

[WA-03 Democrat]

105. Let's not forget

All the pots meeting the kettle that joined him. I am beyond depressed

[demmiblue]

85. Josh Marshall: Gotta say this holds up quite well. Here's my thoughts about where things stand now after Schumer has...

Gotta say this holds up quite well. Here's my thoughts about where things stand now after Schumer has finally shown his cards. Seems clear he has enough Yes votes on cloture to give Trump and Musk their bill. He probably has at least a couple to spare. The vote is tomorrow morning. The odds ...

‪Josh Marshall‬ ‪@joshtpm.bsky.social‬·1d

Okay, Schumer's speech was a head fake. This is the Senate D caucus trying to fool their own supporters. Sorry to say that but that's what's happening.

2/ look long. But I don't think this is over. Additional pressure has a shot at upsetting this apple cart even now.

3/ There's a a byword for at TPM: fundamental honesty with readers. That means not only the obvious, don't lie to them. It also means don't hold back critical information. Certainly don't ever play them for fools. There has to be an analogous byword for elected officials. Your representatives ...

4/ don't have to and sometimes may be obligated not to do what you want. But they should never play their voters for fools. Schumer tried to play his voters for fools here. He tried to engineer a performative stand down. He wanted to keep his hands clean while still allowing the CR to pass.

5/ The events of the last 24 hours made that impossible. He had to put his cards on the table. Very very hard to ever forget that happened. As I said, there's still a chance the tide cld shift here again. I wonder how much the level of voter anger of this will register over the next 18 hours.

March 13, 2025 at 6:58 PM

5/ The events of the last 24 hours made that impossible. He had to put his cards on the table. Very very hard to ever forget that happened. As I said, there's still a chance the tide cld shift here again. I wonder how much the level of voter anger of this will register over the next 18 hours.

— Josh Marshall (@joshtpm.bsky.social) 2025-03-13T22:57:59.879Z

[OilemFirchen]

106. Ha ha. Ha.

Marshall's head's on a swivel here. Yesterday was a head-fake so that Schumer could fuck with rank-and-filers so that something something but whatever, it sucks. However, "voter anger" may tilt Dem Senators back to what may be the correct path, or, accidentally, the incorrect path. Of course, "voter anger" is what led Schumer to announce, yesterday, that there were not enough YES votes, so that Schumer could double-fuck the rank-and-file so that tomorrow Dem Senators can unfuck them, but only once.

Well, I think that holds up quite well as well. Feel free to critique. It won't matter, BTW, but it may (or may not) clarify the matter once and for some.

[ebbie15644]

86. We need other tactics

Our calls and tweets aren't working. Thought? What if we do a dem " blackout" no tweets sharing what they say. No $$$ donated, no watching their clips on social media and sharing etc?

[ZRB]

88. This was our one bit of leverage this year and we are using it

for a pointless show vote, without a single policy concession. This is an utter failure if it stands. I've been proud to defend some of our more centrist members for facing challenging political dynamics, but this is a no-brainer. The party will always have my vote, but this won't win anyone new into the fold. What a crushing joke.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

94. I am not happy

This CR is horrible and we should shut down the government

[EndlessWire]

100. I agree.

I think I remember Congress keeps getting paid no matter what, but we won't. But, I agree with Schiff that you have to say NO! to this dictatorship. We are heading to violence. Schumer will not do anthing but push us on to more desperate measures.

What's the difference between the People going on strike completely or the Government being turned off? Not much. We are not afraid!

I can't believe this is happening to my country. I want to cry, but I'm too tired.

Eff trump et al. Hell is making room for them all.

[Scrivener7]

101. God damn it. I will not vote for him again.

We need to primary both of our Senators.

[Scrivener7]

103. And you can't leave a message at ANY of his phone numbers. Coward.

[Wiz Imp]

109. DON'T GIVE UP YET!

I know people don't want to hear this, but it's not over until a vote actually takes place. First of all, we don't know for sure that 8 Democrats are planning to vote yes. Even assuming, the votes are there, minds may still be able to be changed. I think pressure worked on some Senators already - Kelly, Gallego, Warner & Hickenlooper were thought to be possible yes votes who have announced they will vote no. The following is the list I've seen of most likely yes votes. These people should be hammered hard until the vote tomorrow.

Schumer
Hassan
Peters
Durbin
Schatz
King
Shaheen
Fetterman
Cortez Masto
Gillibrand.

[Ping Tung]

110. Business as usual in the Land of the Free(?) and Home of the Brave(??).

I should like to be able to love my country and still love justice.
Albert Camus

[Smokster]

112. Whatever people think of Schumer he's actually not wrong here.

Musk is a strange breed of right-wing anarchist bordering on anarcho-capitalist like Javier Milei. Letting him and his posse run wild during a protracted shutdown with right-wing authoritarians like Vought backing him is a real turbid brew. Add Trump and the Freedom Caucus to the mix and you get no constraint at all. Not even the illusion of it. If people are looking for acceleration of an already runaway train that's what the shutdown will do. This would be no "normal shutdown" by any stretch. Musk and his chainsaw gang want it bad. If people think they can still somehow slow down the runaway train going forward then Schumer is making the right play.

[sheshe2]

115. Good post, Smokster.

Welcome to DU.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

124. Welcome to DU

[Morbius]

119. Allowing the continuing resolution to pass is bad.

Allowing a government shutdown right now is bad.

Both options, in fact, are spectacularly bad. Both options lead to government as we know it to come to an end. Shutting the government down would, in my opinion, accelerate the destruction. Allowing the CR to pass permits a slower chaos.

We're at the twilight of the great American experiment with democracy. Shutting down the government brings the darkness more quickly. Allowing the CR to pass gives us a little time to keep fighting. Even if that fight is doomed, I prefer the latter.

I know this is an unpopular opinion hereabouts right now. But I think we're at a "damned if we do, fucked if we don't" point for America. I think Schumer et al had no choice.

[Buns_of_Fire]

123. Chuck's "old school." Comity Uber Alles.

Wouldn't want to upset our good friends across the aisle.