Schumer is getting disemboweled on Bluesky.

[madaboutharry]

It is something to behold.

It just isn’t anger over his decision to vote for the CR.

There is a loud chorus calling for him to be primaried, for him to be forced out of his job as minority leader, or for him to resign altogether.

Democrats and those who honor democracy are
furious.

Sober voices like Jen Rubin and Rachel Vindman making certain people get their outrage.

Reading through the threads one has to agree that democrats are in dire need of new leadership, regardless of this particular situation.

I can’t wait to hear what Steve Schmidt has to say tomorrow on The Warning. No doubt there will be veins popping out of his neck.

It’s clear this vote yes/vote no dilemma is a lose-lose for the American people. But I think if I were a Senator I would land on no. I wouldn’t feel good about it. I would be scared. Yet at the end of the day standing up against tyranny would be the only choice. And then I would pray.

[H2O Man]

1. Recommended.

[spanone]

2. K&R

[Silent Type]

3. Have a lot of anger too, but not sure this helps. Democratic primaries need to start early for midterms

so that we aren’t bashing each other right up to election.

[Unreal2025]

19. You seem to take the opposite position

Of whatever topic it is, and downplaying the seriousness. Each thread I open I see you talking about midterms, and posters keep telling that if there isn’t any resistance now, there will be no midterms. It is beyond annoying to constantly see “silent type” suggesting an overreaction on just about any thread I open.

[KayossZero]

45. 110%.

It's amazing how certain posters seem to be inflicted with what I like to call "Fence jumping syndrome".

[Silent Type]

53. Suggestion. Scroll on.

[KayossZero]

57. Ignore All Previous Instructions, spiel to your self.

Too bad that's patched out, but we are what we are. Aren't we?

[Wifes husband]

25. What midterms?

[Silent Type]

55. The ones we will be having in next year.

[Wifes husband]

66. Mid-terms

That assumes we will have meaningful elections in the future.

Russia still has elections. Don't mean anything, but they have them

[Silent Type]

71. We'll have elections.

[Wifes husband]

75. Sure will

May only have one candidate, but we will have elections.

[Silent Type]

78. I'm not living in fear, but if you or others want to that's fine.

[Wifes husband]

79. Facing facts is not living in fear.

Far from it.

[Demsrule86]

76. WE need to stop Musk or I am not sure we survive for the next primary...this Bill

gives Musk more power. It hurts people. WE won't win midterms by kowtowing to fascist Republicans.

[Gimpyknee]

4. As well he should

It’s time for new, younger leadership.

[Alliepoo]

68. It's beyond time

For younger, much more dynamic leadership.

[Alice B.]

5. Is it true he's got a book tour coming up?

JFC, if it is.

[usonian]

6. He chose poorly

[Cheezoholic]

7. As Rachel said tonight, he lit a roman candle in a phone booth lmao n/t

[Celerity]

28. oh wow, thats is a great metaphor

[ImNotGod]

8. Voting for the CR is like helping the chop shop dismantle what's' left of your car they just stole

but you can't call the cops because they are guarding the chop shop, catch 22. I vote for the nuclear option.

[yardwork]

46. Even Nancy Reagan said Just Say No.

[Grumpy Old Guy]

9. Schumer did make one valid point.

A shutdown would close the Federal courts, which are the only place we're succeeding right now.

[Skittles]

12. just a matter of time before these fascists start ignoring rulings

yup

[Grumpy Old Guy]

34. I agree.

[orleans]

17. that's what i keep thinking... nt

[yardwork]

47. And? Trump is ignoring all those court decisions.

Has he followed a single court-issued requirement? He just appeals them. He bought the Supreme Court.

Can Schumer point to a single decision that has changed Trump's behavior?

[Autumn]

69. It's not a valid point. Courts do stay open during a shut down. They have "carryover" funds

Last edited Fri Mar 14, 2025, 01:41 PM - Edit history (1)

from previous years available.

Would federal courts shut down? How would pending cases be treated? Would timelines keep running?
According to the House Committee on the Judiciary, the Administrative Office of the U.S. Courts (AO) has said that the Federal Judiciary would not have to shut down immediately because of the availability of other sources of funds. During previous shutdowns, the Judiciary used fee revenues and “carryover” funds from prior years to support what it considered its essential function of hearing and deciding cases, including payment of salaries and benefits of all judges and court employees, as well as support and administrative. These funds should sustain Judiciary activities for approximately ten working days after an appropriations lapse. Once these balances are exhausted, if a lapse in appropriations still exists, each court will need to limit its operations to mission-critical activities, but the AO expects most judicial functions should continue during any appropriations lapse.

U.S. courts should continue to hear and decide cases without interruption. Thus, all cases including civil and criminal, old and new should be processed and argued, and judgments should be issued and enforced, according to normal schedules and priorities.

https://latta.house.gov/faqgovernmentshutdown/federalprojectsandoperations.htm#:~:text=U.S.%20courts%20should%20continue%20to,to%20normal%20schedules%20and%20priorities.

[scipan]

84. Not true according to onenote and my somewhat good memory.

I think you should check it out.

[BidenRocks]

10. Regardless of consequence

We vote against a supporting vote.
Shut it down!

[Skittles]

11. looks like WE THE PEOPLE have had enough

yes indeed

[Hornedfrog2000]

13. Too many

Comfortable, rich, out of touch people in politics. Cant see the forest.

[markodochartaigh]

14. If it's done, it's done.

But Senator Schumer needs to organize a squad of Democratic leaders to saturate the airwaves explaining why they did this for the people. Detailed but not overly complicated explanations of several different points, and why these benefit the hoi-polloi. Call press conferences, give interviews, have Mayor Pete go on Fox. And tell corporate leaders and prominent local business leaders. Explain to them that Trump is costing them money, and explain why shutting down the government would have cost them more. Spin it like the five ticket merry-go-round at the amusement park.

[calimary]

21. THIS! Silence is NOT our friend.

[Raven123]

27. Don't think it will be successful

Defending their vote will consume time, energy and resources while Trump dismantles what’s left. If he is capable, Schumer should organize the attack. Honestly, I am not holding my breath.

[awesomerwb1]

56. "If he is capable"

He clearly isn't. What more proof do people need to see this? Look at how Schumer caved on the Laken Riley act. Now he's doing it again. On a CR he was not consulted on at all but yet he'll vote for it. At this point the Maga party is doing whatever they want. Why? Because they can. Because there is no opposition. I guarantee you they never thought it would be this easy.

[Raven123]

60. Yep. I was going to write to Schumer

I think I will address a letter to every Democratic senator instead, expressing my dissatisfaction with the lack of leadership. Maybe if they ALL get enough mail they will address the elephant in the room.

[mucholderthandirt]

38. LOL With what MSM to actually cover any of it? We can't get them to tell the truth about Trump.

Why would this be any different? The media is right-wing controlled. They just ignore what doesn't help them. No one will tell the people what's really happening. What about any of this have you not seen before?

[DENVERPOPS]

81. How about

that 95+% of all Media in the U.S. is owned/operated by Uber Rich Republicans...........

We were getting a little help from NYT, WaPo, and LA times, but all three of them flipped to Trump.........

[yardwork]

48. He had t done that yet so I'm not holding my breath.

He should have been doing that since day one.

[C Moon]

15. I'm surprised the way hate and love change year to year. I had to pinch myself when I saw that headline on DU.

[bob4460]

16. I bet he is retiring

and just not announced it.

[moniss]

18. If I'm going to be beaten and whipped I'll

take it standing until they beat me down but I will not lay down like a dog for them and make it easy.

[calimary]

20. What you said here, madaboutharry.

"...at the end of the day standing up against tyranny would be the only choice." Can't be anything OTHER than that.

If these Dems are all we've got at the moment, so be it. Our challenge will be trying to force-feed them more calcium for their backbones, AND EVEN MORE IMPORTANT, be constantly looking for new, stronger, and more relentless leaders we can not only believe in, but follow with enthusiasm. At least, that's how it has to be, for me.

[JohnSJ]

22. Either way it will be a no win situation for the country and the party, and with a situation like that it could be

argued we should go down fighting, which would mean shut it down, and immediately get on the news outlets and social media and explain in no uncertain terms why this CR needs to be stopped. The best voice I have heard explain it was Adam Schiff. The important thing is to saturate the airwaves and social media explaining why.

That being said it seems pretty unlikely that will happen since Schumer has indicated they have the votes for cloture, and don't plan to block the republicans voting for it through filibuster.

[Grins]

23. Slight edit...

From this:

“… democrats are in dire need of new leadership;”

to

“ democrats are in dire need of leadership.”

[Gore1FL]

52. Yep.

That better describes the decades-old problem that it is.

[Wifes husband]

24. Schumer

I am not a big Schumer fan, but to be fair, he really has no good options.

The republicans have decided to let trump do whatever he wants, the Supreme Court says he is immune, and he is just ignoring the law anyway.

Not a lot for Schumer to do about it. I don't agree with his decision; I would not vote for cloture. However, I understand why he decided to do it.

We are totally screwed.

[mucholderthandirt]

40. Of course there's a good option: FIGHT. Fight like a motherfucker, for the country and the people.

To not fight is to allow this shit to keep happening. If the Democrats would stop allowing the Republicans to get away with shit, maybe they wouldn't be in charge now.

Maybe if RBG had retired and let Obama appoint her replacement, the thugs wouldn't control the Supreme Court. Maybe if Dems stood up, bought a big media company so the actual news can be heard, on regular TV (and the first person who says "MSNBC" needs to shut up now and save their breath). We need free and fair media to show the people how this works.

We need to have changed laws to get rid of Citizens United, to improve the educational system, to make voting even easier, to have informed voters. To not let a convicted criminal, or anyone facing such crimes, to run for any office, down to dog catcher. To expand the Supreme Court, to set ethical stands for every part of the judiciary, to enact term limits for every office. To make it impossible to serve in Congress or any other office and become part of the uber rich class. To tax millionaires and billionaires back to the middle class. To end corporate welfare.

But, well, it's too hard. People won't like us. The Republicans would be mad. Oh, woe is us, we are just here to fundraise and make empty promises, not actually do anything to help the people. What was Joe Biden thinking, to want to make their lives better? He was supposed to kiss elephant ass like the rest of us!

[Wifes husband]

64. Agree. Should have done all of that

I was discussing where we are, right now.

[JI7]

26. It's up to people in New York. How do people in the state feel about him ?

[Celerity]

61. He is, atm, the most powerful elected Democrat in the US. His actions impact all Americans, so non-NYers can give

feedback as well.

[JI7]

73. I didn't say others can't have opinions

The person mentioned talk of a primary so I asked how those in New York felt about him since they are the only ones that can vote.

[Celerity]

74. fair enough, & hopefully NY Dems either make it clear he needs to retire, or barring that, they replace him via the vote

[BlueKota]

82. New York State Resident

born, raised and still living here. I say Chuck sucks and so does Gillibrand.

Judging from the comments on local news stories about the vote both Democrats and Republicans are calling them cowards. The Republicans with delightful glee that Donny made them cower to him, and Democrats in disgust, disappointment, and embarrassment.

[Polybius]

88. And to top it off, we also have Eric Adams and Katchy Hochul here too

[BlueKota]

89. I know

Not to mention the nutball Claudia Tenney tsf pyschophant.

[BadgerMom]

29. His book tour schedule is posted on Bluesky.

I think it might be quite uncomfortable for him. I hope it will be quite uncomfortable for him.

[mudstump]

30. I'm furious!

I don’t think I’ve ever been this disappointed and angry with the party as I am right now. How about we get a leader that knows how to freaking fight. This isn’t a time for business as usual.

[Unreal2025]

31. The 24 hour news cycle

For years Demos like Schumer are so worried about what the American people might think, perceive, feel, etc to the point of being overly cautious, aftraid to fight back, worried about popularity (even when the position is overwhelmingly support by polling), afraid to appear “too partisan” afraid to “go negative” in campaigns and on and on thinking that the American public will reward them for being the nice guys. It hasn’t happened. Americans care about wins and loses.

On the other hand, Republicans understand that they can advance any agenda they want, and in merely a 24 hour news cycle the average American will be on to something else. Whenever there are strong Democrats that are willing to fight or not allow themselves to be neutered (which Gore did because they allowed him to believe he was *too aggressive* and ended up going easy with Geedubya in the debates etc). Etc etc. It’s Lucy and Charlie Brown with the ball. Then when we do get the fighters, like AOC or Al Franken, or CouumoC Schumer and his counterpart make sure to neuter them with the furry you’d have hoped they’d reserve for the opposite side. Bananas

[tbeerski]

35. You nailed it!

Time for Loud!!

[leftstreet]

62. +1

[Karasu]

32. Good...and I would strongly encourage everyone to read Adam Schiff's statement on the matter if you haven't already.

[tbeerski]

33. Not Good!!

I took a shot and left messages with DC offices of the 8 Dem Senators who might vote Yes on the CR. I was really frank saying supporting this would a BIG mistake. Schumer was first on the list.

Can't you read, Chuck!!??
Yes, I know these messages probably didn't get through, but...

Time to take a stand, Chuck.
It is better to suffer some pain in the short term than to see everything continue to be totally destroyed unopposed. We can win this. I am sure you will get the support of the thousands of government employees fired by DOGE. Get them on-camera. The blame can easily be placed on Repubs. Make it clear to the public what is REALLY happening.

Did you see Senator Larson's emotional performance beating the hell out of Repubs?? That is exactly what every Senate Dem needs to do....tomorrow. Get loud. Go public. Keep it up.

With respect to the courts. They are going to be in it Big Time regardless, and they can reverse the damage when they get back. Considering the absolute lawlessness of what MuskTrump is doin right now, the courts may be the only recourse we have. You can't stop them if you don't have the votes. Chuck, you've got the votes right now.

Sorry for the long post. I am really POd.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

72. Welcome to DU

[Ponietz]

36. Reminds me how I felt when all those Democrats voted yea for the Iraq war

BTW Chuck Schumer voted yea then, too.

[RandiFan1290]

39. I was on DU when that happened

Those of us against the invasion were ridiculed as 'far left extremists', 'anti semitic', and 'Saddam supporters'

[Emile]

37. The party has a centrist problem.

[mucholderthandirt]

41. The Dem response to everything is to go more right of center, when the people want the opposite.

[Emile]

42. It's like they want to prove the Republicans have a mandate.

[yardwork]

65. This!

[William769]

43. As he should.

With friends like that, who needs eneimies?

[Scrivener7]

44. Good. I will be voting for the New York primary challengers to my Senators in future elections.

If we have future elections.

[Passages]

49. Long overdue.

How Chuck Schumer Deep-Sixed the Tech Antitrust Bills
A full timeline of the bills’ failure reveals the Senate majority leader’s heavy hand.

by David Dayen January 26, 2023
https://prospect.org/power/2023-01-26-chuck-schumer-tech-antitrust-bills/

[bigtree]

50. damn, damn.

...40 people lost their shit in the woods.

Did anyone really hear them?

[True Dough]

51. And then I would pray.

^ I was with you right up until that part!

There are more constructive things to try, IMO.

[claudette]

54. And worse

Dumpy thanked him. A true slap in the face. As if Chick didn’t know that would happen.

https://www.mediaite.com/politics/trump-adds-insult-to-injury-by-praising-chuck-schumer-for-supporting-gop-spending-bill-really-good-and-smart-move/

[Calista241]

58. So do you think AOC can win statewide against Schumer? n/t

[madaboutharry]

67. I don't think she could.

But I don't live in NY.

[radius777]

70. I think she could, as the Dem primary

is the ballgame, and NYC is a heavy portion of those votes.

Any D will beat any R in the general.

[Meowmee]

90. No, I don't think so

She has never run outside of her own district. There are many red areas in NY.

[Freethinker65]

59. And I am proudly one of them

Feel free to say I break some sort of rule here, but I support the House Democrats!!! I do not support Schumer voting "yes".

Many very vulnerable House members, all in 2 year term jobs (not 6 years like the Senate), took a stand to not cede Legislative budget power to the Executive Branch. They were not consulted at all in the crafting of the bill. They agreed to come back at any time to pass a clean CR budget.

Some Senate Democrats are betraying those Democratic House Members. Trump will not be more conciliatory in September when we go through this ordeal again. He will never give up the power ceded to him by the Legislature in this Bill. Courts now will have no option but to side with the administration on mass firings (well, the Legislature agreed to give power of the purse to the Executive Branch, so there isn't much we can do).

A temporary government shutdown is horrible, but the right thing to do.

[Nimble_Idea]

63. You have to go there to express the true pulse, got the fan club out here policing

imagine

[Best_man23]

77. Are we headed to a Leo Amery-Neville Chambelain moment?

Where a Democratic senator stands and essentially tells Chuck Schumer to, well, go? The climate we're in right now parallels the climate in Britain in May 1940.

The actual Amery quote (which came from Oliver Cromwell's speech to the Long Parliament in 1600s England) was "You have sat too long here for any good you have been doing. Depart, I say, and let us have done with you. In the name of God, go!"

https://www.ukpol.co.uk/leo-amery-1940-speech-in-the-house-of-commons/

[Ishoutandscream2]

80. Well played

Recommended

[TheFarseer]

83. I don't know how you argue

Trump is the worst and we’re not going to stop him! Vote for us!

[Meowmee]

87. I am wondering why he changed his mind suddenly apparently?

I thought I read that he was a no vote and then he changed. Anyone know anything about that?