David Feldman: The risk of Dems' shutting down the gov't and Repub's will blame & take advantage...he may have a point

[NowsTheTime]

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"Not sure this is the hill Democrats should be dying on"

"voters need to see at least for the first 100 days who these Republicans are, they need to be reminded, and I worry that shutting down the government over 8 billion dollars may cloud the issue...

"this is the most dangerous Republican party in American history and you don't give them and inch, but what if the inch you're giving them is enough rope to hang themselves...."

"my gut tells me a government shut down would be a disaster for Democrats"

"I could be wrong but who's to say the government would open back up?"

"I just can't see Schumer will allow the government to shut down and serving up a gov't shut down on a silver plate for Trump
to blame Democrats with"

[displacedvermoter]

1. He "could be wrong'

Yep...

[brush]

12. Right. The gov will open back up because rethugs will be blamed because the control...

every branch of government—the WH, the Senate, the House, the DOJ and SCOTUS. IMO they will catch the blame as long as the shutdown goes on.

[JI7]

2. Why didn't it happen when democrats have control ?

but if it happens under Republican control it's democrsts fault ?

[kansasobama]

6. Because Democrats are weak

They kept quiet instead of preparing for a GOP shutdown. This Party is quiet and lifeless. A new Democratic Party is required for the new threat.

[JI7]

11. huh ? I'm giving a simple response to anyone blaming democrats

That it makes no sense to blame the party out of power . Especially when that same party doesn't do it when we are in power.

It's as simple as pointing out who controls the govt.

[2naSalit]

19. Makes no sense...

But Dems end up paying for it regardless.

[Autumn]

25. When Newt closed down the government Republicans paid the price.

[kansasobama]

3. Whether we are a fascism or not is going to come to a head

The more you appease and delay, the stronger the fascist gets and the harder it will be to get rid of fascism.

It is better it comes to a head sooner than later.

Barring a mass movement on the streets SOON , we are on the way to fascism.

I am afraid Trump popularity is still very high and no mass movement is on the horizon. The only one who is even trying to engineer something is old Bernie Sanders. It needed to be someone else although I applaud his courage

It is disappointing there is no other activity. Dems think it is about legislation. Also, complete silence by former Presidents, Vice Presidents, First and Second ladies is deafening Sports figures are going along as normal. Movie industry was more active pushing out Biden than pushing out fascism.

[Alice Kramden]

27. This!

Everybody was "more active pushing out Biden than pushing out fascism," as you stated

[Autumn]

4. David Feldman is an idiot.

[kansasobama]

8. No Dem leaders are idiots

For listening to Feldman and CNN crap. Worried about whether they will get the blame rather than whether democracy will be lost

[Autumn]

9. I can not disagree there.

[NowsTheTime]

16. No, it's about what happens if Dem's shut it down and how Republicans will use it to their advantage.

Elon is in favor of a shut down...that should tell you something..

https://www.yahoo.com/news/elon-musk-reportedly-wants-government-150942719.html

[Autumn]

24. You know those bastards lie? If those mother fuckers told me the sky was blue I would know

it's not. If they are going to vote for what Trump and Loony want I don't ever want to hear them complaining about how dangerous their actions are again.

[Emile]

5. No Mike, Republicans would be the ones shutting

down the government.

[HereForTheParty]

7. WGAF

This isn't the 1990s.

[Autumn]

10. When Newt shut down the government in the 90s Republicans paid the price,

[uponit7771]

13. Quinipac Americans would blame Trump

[JohnSJ]

14. In my view it is a no win situation regardless. If we filibuster the CR, will the republicans compromise and allow

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Democratic input in the CR?

The reason is probably not, because the Democrats have presented to the republicans in the Senate a proposal for a temporary extension to avoid a shut down, that would allow Democrats and republicans to work together on the CR.

The republicans rejected that

That leaves only two alternatives:

1. Allow cloture, and the republicans will pass the draconian CR.

2. Filibuster the bill, and the government will be shut down

If the government shuts down people will get hurt, and services will be curtailed however long the government stays shut down.

Will the republicans finally agree to compromise then? I don't think so. They are cult now. Since they have the majority what they probably will do is let the government stay shut down until the country starts to feel the pain, and crying for Congress to stop this nonsense.

Who will they blame?

The rethugs will of course blame the Democrats, and no doubt on the MSM and social media outlets exploit those platforms blaming the Democrats.

Can the Democrats exploit those same platforms with a clear concise message explaining just how bad the CR is, and why it would be necessary to modify the existing CR bill because it gives unfettered power to the executive branch that should solely be the responsibility of Congress.

I suspect that the people who depend on those service or paychecks won't care, they will just demand somehting will be done

Since republicans have the majority, what I could see happening is republicans saying they will come to the rescue, getting rid of the filibuster, and passing the draconian CR.

Then the question is, will the Democrats accomplish anything by not allowing Cloture?

[Ninga]

31. But does your thesis presuppose Maga will stay

silent in the case of a shutdown? A shut down doesn’t only affect Democrats. Wouldn’t a shut down bitch slap MAGA into their senses?

[JohnSJ]

32. I think Maga will just blame it on the Democrats. They are a cult. It will be what the independents view, and I have

no idea.

[newdeal2]

15. The only reason I can agree with this

Is Dems (not all, but by and large) have been ineffective messengers the last few months.

They will not mount a successful offense much less defense against Republican attacks.

Which is pretty damning too.

[Nanjeanne]

18. Who is David Feldman? What's his background and expertise? Sorry I have no idea who this is

[NowsTheTime]

20. His background is comedy writer & political satirist. A strong liberal, extensive knowledege of US politics.

Based in NYC, I have been listening to his youtube video's for awhile.

Though long, I do not find them hard to stay with.

Decide for yourself.

[nitpicked]

21. Google pointed me to Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Feldman_(comedian)

According to this, he has been a comedian and comedy writer, currently doing podcasts and co-hosting a Ralph Nader show.

Claims to be a Democrat.

[Nanjeanne]

23. Thanks. I'll file his opinion and maintain my own!

[the_liberal_grandpa]

22. So now they have to spend their time trying to prove a negative

Schumer insists that keeping the government open will prevent the felon from doing worse things
so now, if Dems vote to pass what they say is a bad CR they will have to convince their angry, pissed off
voters that they stopped something from happening. That's never easy to do.

If they don't support it and the government shuts down they can tell their voters that they actually did something
and they actually stood for something and they fought back as their voters, supporters and donors want.

Dems don't get it. They don't fight and thats why we are where we are.

[a kennedy]

26. Heard one Repub, calling it the "Schumer Shutdown" already!!!!!

[Think. Again.]

28. Polls show the public would blame republicans.

[NowsTheTime]

29. My purpose in posting this was to show differing thoughts. I prefer analysis rather than emotion.

[RiverStone]

30. Analysis still reveals fascism is at our gate

A yes vote welcomes them in.

I hope history remembers that this is the line Democrats never crossed. We have to vote no to remain a democracy.

[NowsTheTime]

33. Agree..shut it down..Who is for and against it helped me decide....For: Bernie, AOC, Schiff Against: Schumer, Fetterman