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Trump Agrees With Schumer (Original Post) lame54 Mar 2025 OP
Did he declare Chuck a Jew again? 617Blue Mar 2025 #1
bullshit bigtree Mar 2025 #2
As bad as a shutdown will be... lame54 Mar 2025 #3
Exactly, gab13by13 Mar 2025 #4
the shutdown would obviate the need for most of the bill bigtree Mar 2025 #5
Yikes peggysue2 Mar 2025 #6
They are two NYC guys SocialDemocrat61 Mar 2025 #7

gab13by13

(32,354 posts)
4. Exactly,
Fri Mar 14, 2025, 11:04 AM
Mar 2025

Krasnov doesn't want a shutdown, he wants the CR which gives Congressional power, Art. 1, Sec. 8, Clause 1, grants Congress the power to tax and spend money for the general welfare of the United States, to an illegal immigrant.

This CR weakens the Democratic party since they will be seen as complicit for what goes on the next 6 months. At least Senate Dems will be complicit.

bigtree

(94,289 posts)
5. the shutdown would obviate the need for most of the bill
Fri Mar 14, 2025, 11:12 AM
Mar 2025

...look how they neutered USAID.

Not just with the canceling of contracts, but they actually repurposed the agency building. There is nowhere for those employees ordered back to work, and many are being sent to other agencies where there's literally no place for them and no actual job to perform, essentially ending USAID in any form that works as Congress intended.

Same with the 'emergency' they pretended at Dept. of Ed to get everyone to leave that agency building, which they will now promptly close. The wrestling marm in charge said as much.

What a shutdown will allow is a repetition of those actions. It's in the Project 2025 manual. The part written by the architect of the plan WHO IS RIGHT THERE RUNNING OMB, the agency that is not only inc harge of determining what's essential to remain open, but what agency and workforce will eventually return, most likely not at all.

Then you have the prospect of Musk and his army of techbros going through agencies like a closed amusement park.

The other hand is a continuing resolution that contains most of the priorities we advanced in 2024 and earlier in Biden's term. The downside are the holes in the budget, but the fight is still in the committees where the actual cuts are made. The CR isn't the budget end game.


peggysue2

(12,533 posts)
6. Yikes
Fri Mar 14, 2025, 11:22 AM
Mar 2025

That's a poison kiss if there ever was one.

This whole scenario is depressing to watch. Yes, there's no good direction to take here and this may or may not be the lesser evil. But . . .

Schumer has decided to follow James Carville's suggestion that Democrats 'play dead' or in the down-home vernacular 'play possum' and wait for these suckers to blow themselves up.

But as Earl said, without a strong, consistent message (which should have been in place long before this) people could easily turn-off and hunker down for good.

That serves no purpose if saving the Republic is the goal.

Right now the only Democrats who have broken through the noise are people like Bernie Sanders, AOC, or earlier this week John Larson. It's with passion and anger and righteous indignation. Americans need to see their representatives fighting the good fight, regardless of the outcome.

As for Agent Orange? He's the biggest, ugliest troll the Universe ever created. He and his tech bro maniacs are out to destroy all of us.

In my mind, playing dead is riskier than standing up with a clenched fist.

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