Guess who gains if the CR fails?

[DownriverDem]

trump gains more power. Blame the propagandized voters. I don't get the simple non-working solutions folks think the Dems should use. And it is not the Dems fault. Why don't folks attack the dumb propagandized voters who voted their hate? The rich bought up the media (TV, radio stations) blasting RW talk radio for decades. Too many folks do not know what happened going back to Reagan and rush limbaugh.
https://www.wakeuptopolitics.com/p/how-a-shutdown-could-empower-trump

[Attilatheblond]

1. Oh, I dunno. Watching videos of townhalls for the few GOP reps who have dared to have them, the tide is turning

Thinking it may FINALLY be possible that the GOP can't fool enough of the people enough of the time to get way with blaming the LIBs this time.

[DownriverDem]

3. I agree

Clearly a lack of Civic classes & teaching critical thinking skills has really hurt our country. We all know that it's the repubs who made sure citizens were ignorant.

[LizBeth]

2. Ya, it sounds like either way Trump wins, we lose

[GreenWave]

29. And he is incapable of masterminding such a catch 22 dilemma.

[Gore1FL]

4. Everyone is going to lose either way.

Democratic leadership not being able to come up with a plan in two months is more than a little disheartening and reflects why we won't have any gains.

[DownriverDem]

7. What plan

is that? They can plan all they want, but they have no power.

[Gore1FL]

13. Neither did the GOP when they were in the minority. It didn't seem to stop the them from derailing or delaying things.

One thing the GOP didn't do was declare, "God is on the Throne" and then whimper in a corner. Another thing they didn't do is follow "we will block this," messaging to "we will support this" messaging.

Why do we have to constantly cater top people we know are bat shit?

We need people that will rise to this occasion, not those who acquiesce to it

[gab13by13]

5. Krasnov wants a CR not a shutdown.

The CR is unconstitutional and Schumer should have said that.

[DownriverDem]

8. Then how come

CRs have been used for decades?

[Gore1FL]

15. Probably because no one tried to challenge it. nt

[Think. Again.]

31. CR's themselves aren't unconstitutional, but this one is...

...because it gives the Executive branch unconstitutional powers.

[Captain Zero]

24. &he will come for more power on the next one

In the fall.

[David__77]

6. "Attack the voters", don't block the Trump law?

[DownriverDem]

9. Did you not read the link?

trump gains more power if the CR is blocked.

[David__77]

12. Voters may be forgiven for thinking that supporting the Trump law is not opposing Trump.

[LAS14]

10. Totally agree! The sometimes fatal weakness of democracy is that it requires an educated electorate. nt

[Freethinker65]

11. Guess who gains more power if it passes! The Executive Branch.

Vote NO

[lindysalsagal]

14. Senator Chris Murphy just sent this email about the CR: He's voting no.

(Personally, I really don't know which path is better)

Today, the Senate is going to vote on the Republican funding bill. I will be voting no, and I want to explain why. You deserve to know the stakes here. First of all, Trump has a plan to destroy our economy and our government, to create a crisis that allows him to hand our government over to his billionaire friends and suspend our democracy. That’s what he’s implementing already. I wish that weren’t true, but it is.

The question is whether this funding bill makes it easier or harder for him to implement that plan. I believe that it makes it easier, so I refuse to support it. Republicans are in charge, but in the Senate, they need Democratic votes — at least on cloture, which closes debate and prevents a filibuster — to pass a funding bill. The problem is they never negotiated with us. They didn’t even try. They wrote their own partisan bill, filled with right-wing nonsense. They were so confident they could steamroll Democrats that House Republicans adjourned and went home days ago.

You may hear Republicans and the media call this a “continuing resolution.” It is not. It doesn’t merely continue last year’s funding. It makes changes that make it easier for Trump to implement his plan to destroy our country. It makes massive cuts to housing programs, and programs for health care for working families and doesn’t fully fund staffing needs at the Social Security Administration. It paves the way for Musk to advance his illegal assault on those government services.

It gives Trump brand new spending powers — like the ability to start new military programs that have never been authorized by Congress. At this moment of crisis, that is very dangerous. And it takes key guardrails off presidential spending authority, allowing Trump and Musk to move money more easily to suit their whims.

Now listen, Trump and Musk are going to keep acting illegally, no matter what this funding bill says. Whether we stop them will be up to the courts and our ability to mobilize people all over this country against their deeply unpopular agenda. But by passing a bill that makes their plan easier to implement, Democrats risk putting a bipartisan veneer of endorsement on their campaign to give our government to the billionaires and destroy the rule of law.

I just won’t be a part of that.

Every best wish,

Chris Murphy

[80-10-10]

16. What does attacking people

and calling them dumb accomplish? Seriously!

[GP6971]

18. Good Morning!! And Welcome to DU...I guess.

[JoseBalow]

19. You're right, those Nazi dipshits are too dumb to learn anything

They're hopelessly irredeemable, there's nothing to accomplish that can help them and their ilk.

It's fun to tell them to fuck off and piss them off though, don't you think?

[DownriverDem]

22. Those folks

aren't on here.

[Lulu KC]

28. If that is the case

It certainly goes both ways. Libtards, etc. are favorite labels for Democrats by Republicans. Are you on their forums reminding them of that? Just curious.

[JoseBalow]

34. The troll got bounced

[Lulu KC]

39. She'll be back

[ProfessorGAC]

40. If It's Who I Suspect....

...you're completely correct. She'll be back!

[Lulu KC]

26. Or are they?

The walls have ears.

[JoseBalow]

35. Not for long

[marble falls]

27. As opposed to the damage done by the legislation to us?

[Bettie]

17. And if it passed he gains more power too

either way, congress is becoming irrelevant.

[Think. Again.]

32. Which is why the Dems SHOULD have voted AGAINST cloture and against the CR.

[andym]

20. Heads they win, tails we lose situation

and I agree that the voters did this to the country, placing democrats in a no-win situation when it came to government funding. Too many of the key voters were uninformed or propagandized according to various polls and interviews after the election.

[Think. Again.]

33. By allowing cloture we have now ALSO lost voters and credibility.

[Mountainguy]

21. Nonsense

If Trump truly wanted a shutdown he wouldn't have bullied every house R into passing the bill.

[Skittles]

23. NO NEGOTIATIONS means repukes win

FUCK THAT

[ImNotGod]

30. I;m with the House Dems, just say no to fascists. Are you watching how the nazi party is laughing at the few weak senate

Dems who are willing to buckle for whatever reason? I'm seeing it on live feed right now.

[Skittles]

38. it is just fucking disgusting

if there was EVER an indication Dems need new leadership, THIS is it

[Emile]

37. Now Trump is bragging all over again about

his mandate.

[Eko]

36. Kick