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Nanjeanne

(6,641 posts)
Fri Mar 14, 2025, 12:53 PM Mar 2025

Pelosi statement on CR

Pelosi Statement on the Government Funding Bill in the Senate
San Francisco - Speaker Emerita Nancy Pelosi issued the following statement on the government funding bill under consideration in the Senate:

"Donald Trump and Elon Musk have offered the Congress a false choice between a government shutdown or a blank check that makes a devastating assault on the well-being of working families across America. Let's be clear: neither is a good option for the American people. But this false choice that some are buying instead of fighting is unacceptable. I salute Leader Hakeem Jeffries for his courageous rejection of this false choice, and I am proud of my colleagues in the House Democratic Caucus for their overwhelming vote against this bill.
"Democratic senators should listen to the women. Appropriations leaders Rosa DeLauro and Patty Murray have eloquently presented the case that we must have a better choice: a four-week funding extension to keep government open and negotiate a bipartisan agreement. America has experienced a Trump shutdown before - but this damaging legislation only makes matters worse. Democrats must not buy into this false choice. We must fight back for a better way. Listen to the women, For The People."


She doesn't mention cloture specifically. But I think it's clear what Pelosi is saying here. And I think her saying it is a pretty big deal.

Josh Marshall (@joshtpm.bsky.social) 2025-03-14T15:58:33.999Z
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While she may not specifically mention cloture vote I think her statement is strong and telling since she is mentioning two very strong NO cloture women.
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Pelosi statement on CR (Original Post) Nanjeanne Mar 2025 OP
K & R Emile Mar 2025 #1
I was about to post the same thing with the headline gab13by13 Mar 2025 #2
I still hear her equivocating on the incumbent president three months before we voted. bigtree Mar 2025 #3
Kamala Harris won the election gab13by13 Mar 2025 #6
I totally agree. I only wish Wonder Woman would show up and rid us of the evil dick tater, and expose BComplex Mar 2025 #10
I disagree with you about the House. A SINGLE Democratic vote in favor is "bipartisan support". Wonder Why Mar 2025 #18
I was wondering if Nancy would weigh in. harumph Mar 2025 #4
The House is really upset. They stuck together and took a hard stance. I see Schumer as AOC does - a betrayal. Nanjeanne Mar 2025 #5
Damned if you do, damned if you don't sagetea Mar 2025 #7
Stop with this both-siderism Bluetus Mar 2025 #8
I'm sorry you believe I am sagetea Mar 2025 #12
You seem to be saying they are equally bad options Bluetus Mar 2025 #13
The Felon's sagetea Mar 2025 #23
Recommended. H2O Man Mar 2025 #26
Don't forget "the rest of the story". When the country goes down, the repugs will say: Wonder Why Mar 2025 #17
This. Right. Here. durablend Mar 2025 #20
+1000 or more....... Bengus81 Mar 2025 #30
Nancy knew how to use these moments to make gains for Democrats iemanja Mar 2025 #9
What 3auld6phart Mar 2025 #11
Yes, that was a brilliant move! ShazzieB Mar 2025 #22
I trust her. She knows what's right. She knows strategy. lindysalsagal Mar 2025 #14
She's right! BlueKota Mar 2025 #15
I grew cool toward Nancy Pelosi... suegeo Mar 2025 #16
A million times this Unreal2025 Mar 2025 #24
yup Skittles Mar 2025 #25
Sure, it would be great to block CR cloture to force a MEANINGFUL vote on the extension. pat_k Mar 2025 #19
Thank you for this. It helped me with my confusing analysis and concluding belief that we still have to "hang together" SharonAnn Mar 2025 #28
Flip the script - ReThuglicans would be proudly voting NO to hang the problem on Democrats. NoMoreRepugs Mar 2025 #21
Statement from before or after the Senate vote...? krkaufman Mar 2025 #27
Go with Pelosi joetubes Mar 2025 #29

bigtree

(94,672 posts)
3. I still hear her equivocating on the incumbent president three months before we voted.
Fri Mar 14, 2025, 01:05 PM
Mar 2025

...and doubling down afterward claiming it was the president's fault that she helped drive him out.

I stopped listening after that.

One thing. Nothing the House did, or had the potential to do, would shut the government down, so her House never actually faced that decision.

BComplex

(9,961 posts)
10. I totally agree. I only wish Wonder Woman would show up and rid us of the evil dick tater, and expose
Fri Mar 14, 2025, 02:25 PM
Mar 2025

the russian algorithms that were used.

Wonder Why

(7,235 posts)
18. I disagree with you about the House. A SINGLE Democratic vote in favor is "bipartisan support".
Fri Mar 14, 2025, 03:29 PM
Mar 2025

And don't think the repugs will forget that when the blame time comes.

Nanjeanne

(6,641 posts)
5. The House is really upset. They stuck together and took a hard stance. I see Schumer as AOC does - a betrayal.
Fri Mar 14, 2025, 01:09 PM
Mar 2025

sagetea

(1,562 posts)
7. Damned if you do, damned if you don't
Fri Mar 14, 2025, 01:26 PM
Mar 2025

no matter what they do. So, make a decision that you know is right, that gives a light to the end of this dark tunnel. What's right, in my opinion...?

Well, Nobody will remember the Gov. shutting down more than what will happen if we don't stand up to the bullies. Never, ever concede to a bully, NEVER!

sage

Bluetus

(3,089 posts)
8. Stop with this both-siderism
Fri Mar 14, 2025, 01:59 PM
Mar 2025

These are not two equal options.

The Schumer option puts into law all the illegal things that Trump and Musk are doing AND also rams through the first set of MAJOR funding cuts. Once that passes, the courts will no longer have a basis to stop Musk on separation of powers.

The other two options (a 4-week standstill or an immediate rejection of cloture) may not be better than the Schumer option, but they cannot possibly be worse. And these two options at least give is an opportunity to mobilize the public -- something which should have been done as soon as P2025 was revealed almost a year ago.

sagetea

(1,562 posts)
12. I'm sorry you believe I am
Fri Mar 14, 2025, 02:36 PM
Mar 2025

Doing ‘both sides’. Trust me I am not doing that.


Sage

Bluetus

(3,089 posts)
13. You seem to be saying they are equally bad options
Fri Mar 14, 2025, 02:47 PM
Mar 2025

They are not. That's the very definition of both-siderism.

If I misunderstand your meaning, I apologize, and perhaps you can explain in ways that are more obvious to me. As I see it, the Schumer option GUARANTEES the absolute worse case. It is legislating fascism and starting the process of de-funding the social programs we have fought for over the past century.

The other option MIGHT end up in the same place, but at least it has a chance of mobilizing enough public pressure to get a better outcome.

sagetea

(1,562 posts)
23. The Felon's
Fri Mar 14, 2025, 04:20 PM
Mar 2025

Mis- Administration, and the Russian asset himself, will blast anything the Dems do, therefore, no matter what the Dems do they are damned by the bully.

Damned if they do, damned if they don't.

It is NOT, I repeat NOT even close to Both siderisms!

sage

Wonder Why

(7,235 posts)
17. Don't forget "the rest of the story". When the country goes down, the repugs will say:
Fri Mar 14, 2025, 03:25 PM
Mar 2025

"Our bill had BIPARTISAN support!" and they will be technically correct.

iemanja

(57,780 posts)
9. Nancy knew how to use these moments to make gains for Democrats
Fri Mar 14, 2025, 02:15 PM
Mar 2025

Last edited Fri Mar 14, 2025, 05:05 PM - Edit history (1)

I miss her leadership.

3auld6phart

(1,683 posts)
11. What
Fri Mar 14, 2025, 02:36 PM
Mar 2025

I. Liked is she dropped the honorific title president, simply saying Donald which apparently he hates… when he really thinks he is t exalted majesty….

ShazzieB

(22,883 posts)
22. Yes, that was a brilliant move!
Fri Mar 14, 2025, 03:57 PM
Mar 2025

I hope a lot more Democrats follow her lead and start referring to him that way.

suegeo

(3,140 posts)
16. I grew cool toward Nancy Pelosi...
Fri Mar 14, 2025, 03:10 PM
Mar 2025

Last edited Sat Mar 15, 2025, 12:33 PM - Edit history (1)

..when she stated Impeachment is off the table. About the guy who stole the election in 2000.

The guy who couldn't protect us on Sept. the 11. Hurricanes. Disasters in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Housing market crash. Banking crisis. Unemployment crisis.

Total mess. But impeachment is off the table.

Keep that powder dry pink tutus.

 

Unreal2025

(8 posts)
24. A million times this
Fri Mar 14, 2025, 04:43 PM
Mar 2025

That “impeachment is off the table” for war crimes by GW no less was the first domino and original sin

pat_k

(13,856 posts)
19. Sure, it would be great to block CR cloture to force a MEANINGFUL vote on the extension.
Fri Mar 14, 2025, 03:35 PM
Mar 2025

That would have the potential to make the extension the vote with real shutdown stakes and allow us to put the government shutdown squarely on the shoulders of the Republicans who reject the reasonable four-week extension.

However, as far as I can tell, the only way they could get the vote on the extension on the table at all was to surrender in advance with a statement from leadership against blocking cloture on the CR, and thereby removing risk of shutdown from the vote on the extension.

They are in a terrible bind. Getting the four week extension on the table was a good move and gives some taking points against the Senate Republican co-conspirators in the executive branch's lawlessness, but the preemptive surrender in is not exactly a show of strength.

That said, I understand they are facing an impossible Sophie's choice. I honestly believe there is no unequivocally "right" answer. They must make the choice and contend with the consequences, regret, recriminations, and second guessing.

I really don't know that holding firm on blocking cloture while decrying Thune for blocking a reasonable extension wouldn't end up with the public's growing rage at the chaos wrought by Trump's insanity being shifted to the chaos wrought by the "Democratic shutdown." Sure, maybe we could avoid that and keep the public's rage focused where it belongs. But maybe not.

Keep the pressure on them to do what you believe is right, but however it plays out, I beg we give the people who are on our side of this fight a little grace when we think they've done the wrong thing. Keep our own rage focused where it belongs -- on the enemies of America who are lawlessly dismantling the executive branch.

SharonAnn

(14,178 posts)
28. Thank you for this. It helped me with my confusing analysis and concluding belief that we still have to "hang together"
Sat Mar 15, 2025, 06:24 AM
Mar 2025

NoMoreRepugs

(12,229 posts)
21. Flip the script - ReThuglicans would be proudly voting NO to hang the problem on Democrats.
Fri Mar 14, 2025, 03:46 PM
Mar 2025

krkaufman

(13,969 posts)
27. Statement from before or after the Senate vote...?
Sat Mar 15, 2025, 01:45 AM
Mar 2025

Because it’s just CYA if from after.

joetubes

(45 posts)
29. Go with Pelosi
Sat Mar 15, 2025, 08:45 AM
Mar 2025

I have heard both sides and I will put my money on Pelosi. She has the " Best Brain ".

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