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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSchumer and the Dems who voted 'yes' own what Trump does for the next six months
"One thing is certain, if we pass this continuing resolution for the next half year, we will own what the president does."
Sen. Adam Schiff
Think. Again.
(22,456 posts)Gophergrunt
(14 posts)Nursing homes will evict residents who don't have social security and health insurance enough to cover cost.This would bankrupt every city in this country if Trump and his lap dog kill medicaid and social security. The point is the pain both are sociopaths.
markodochartaigh
(5,300 posts)If they start enforcing those laws a lot of Tiktok kids living with their parents are going to find themselves with a new roommate.
Nanjeanne
(6,546 posts)Dopey, Dummy, Useless, Spineless, Hopeless, Worthless, Feeble, Weak and Impotent just destroyed the chance for Democratic Party to rebrand and remessage.
Good luck with fundraising. And those town halls you could have done with angry Republicans where you could have shown what the Democratic Party was fighting for will now be no different than the Republican ones - filled with angry constituents.
JI7
(93,402 posts)You can still think Schumer and other democrats are wrong in how they vote.
But the blame begins to those that control the House , Senate, and presidency.
Nanjeanne
(6,546 posts)JI7
(93,402 posts)Blame Republicans for the shit they do.
The Republicans put the Dems in a no win situation.
Is this what they mean by "learned helplessness"?
They'll never follow court orders either.
TomSlick
(12,950 posts)It is also capitulation and appeasement.
Welcome to DU. We can met at the gulag.
Cirsium
(3,727 posts)Republicans use the filibuster to extract compromises from the Democrats. They never felt they were in a "no win situation."
When Republicans use the filibuster too many Democrats say "we are in a 'no win situation.' Blame the Republicans."
When Democrats fail to use the filibuster too many Democrats say "we are in a 'no win situation.' Blame the Republicans."
Susan Calvin
(2,423 posts)PortTack
(35,816 posts)The tsf and muskrat wanted a shut down. Who knows how long the shut down wouldve lasted. It would fall to the republicans to decide how much more pain they want to inflict with a shut down. Government employees either furloughed because of the shut down, or working with no pay would leave cause no one can go without pay for weeks on end. Wed be doing their dirty work for them. Their goal as we know is to skeletonize the government even further.
Very unfortunately it was a win either way for them and either way a loss for the American ppl.
Dont bash me for putting these facts out there!
Self Esteem
(2,248 posts)And that's just over the next six months. Who knows what other cuts will be added to the next CR that Democrats will now inevitably support because gosh Trump really seriously wants a shutdown!
In the meantime, Trump and Co will continue firing federal employees and ignoring the courts, which he's already doing.
Nothing was won today. Democrats folded and just showed the Republicans that they can bring even more severe cuts to the table next time because you can't risk a government shutdown!
PortTack
(35,816 posts)The whole thing makes me weak in the knees.
I do think as do some political analysts that the situation would be much worse if we left things close
seriously who knows when they would agree to reopen it. They hold all the cards.
I will look for the link I read that supported not closing things down. I sure wish I had bookmarked it, but didnt
Kerrycrat
(160 posts)He was against a shut down when the Republicans did it. Still against it when there was talk of Dems doing it.
It would have been performative and nothing else
Cirsium
(3,727 posts)The Republicans can always get concessions from the Dems with this tactic. It isn't "performative" when they use it, it is quite effective.
The filibuster is merely a tactic, it isn't a matter of grand principle. It is a Senate rule, not something Moses brought down from the mountain. Consistency in tactics is a weakness.
Wifes husband
(715 posts)JI7
(93,402 posts)Wifes husband
(715 posts)The Republicans are in the majority. A shut down is their problem. 10 democrats are on record supporting a Republican bill that is as bad as a shut down, maybe worse.
They are firing thousands of people illegally right now, so I don't understand your point
JI7
(93,402 posts)the govt .
LymphocyteLover
(9,633 posts)betsuni
(28,928 posts)Orangepeel
(13,977 posts)I'll blame the rain when the workers fail to fix my roof.
I'll blame the arsonists when the fire fighters fail to show up.
Republicans and the people who voted for them do not own the Democrats' failure to filibuster.
DSandra
(1,718 posts)This was the enabling act and they essentially allowed it to pass!
LymphocyteLover
(9,633 posts)you're taking all agency away from the GOP-- essentially saying they are robots who will only do horrible things -- and making Dems the only ones who control anything, which is BS, because Dem leverage is crap in a govt shutdown.
Emile
(41,638 posts)By voting with the republican majority, they are saying (imo) that they believe Trump has a mandate.
DSandra
(1,718 posts) I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic.
MuchBetterThanThis
(78 posts)
the American people who allowed this shit to even be possible.
Screw all this feckless Dems, Schumer that BS. All the infighting about Gaza, Bidens age, etc doomed this country.
We can never unify on the better things it seems. Dem or Republicans.
LiberalArkie
(19,571 posts)I vote for.?
Wifes husband
(715 posts)Pototan
(3,044 posts)would have played into Musk's hands,
These 10 Dems did the correct thing. We were left with two choices, bad and worse. Schumer chose bad. Shutting the government down would have been worse.
How in the world does a shut down play into Musk's hands?
Pototan
(3,044 posts)permanent. Trump and Musk could have kept some departments closed and others open by their own whim.
Wifes husband
(715 posts)PortTack
(35,816 posts)If I can find the link, I will post it.
LymphocyteLover
(9,633 posts)voteragain
(52 posts)the song "I've been in through the desert on a horse with no name" keeps coming back to my mind.
ObamaKerryDem
(1,478 posts)So disappointed in all of them. 🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️
LymphocyteLover
(9,633 posts)GOP fascists are gonna do what they do and shutting down the govt would not have stopped it.
Really all this does is take away a lot of drama about when will the Dems cave. Because is there any doubt that Dems would feel more pressure to open up the govt than the GOP?
The other benefits to keeping the govt open are: the courts stay open, govt workers get paid, and whatever economic downturn comes from the mess that felon 47 is making of the country can be blamed solely on him and not on Dems shutting down the govt.
Exp
(861 posts)TomSlick
(12,950 posts)Schumer and his co-conspirators capitulated. They own the bill.
When Granny is evicted from the nursing home, it's on them.
Efilroft Sul
(4,384 posts)They joined with Trump's MAGA Republican enablers to surrender their Constitutional turf without a fight. This vote set a dangerous precedent for the next time, when these same Democrats will be expected to roll over and show their bellies again. You watch, Trump will later claim he has that power, that Schumer gave it to him in March. And the other nine bobbleheads who joined Schumer today will say, "That we did, oh, yes, we did."
There was way more on the line today than just keeping this dysfunctional government open. Schumer knew it, and he deliberately dropped the ball. Absolutely unforgivable.
IowaUnionman
(20 posts)If you come to impasse and shut it down ,then they fund what they want and dont fund anything we want.
We gat all the blame they get what they want and then we really are weak.
While distasteful we must face the reality . You dont get what you want by pounding on the table.
Voters love the rough tough guy with the large mouth until it affects them .
We have to play the rope a rope until we have some leverage.
Pototan
(3,044 posts)CountMyVote4Reality
(293 posts)They are worse than MAGA.
DownriverDem
(7,000 posts)the special elections. In Florida the April 1st elections are for the CD1 & CD6. There is another special election in New York for the CD21 seat. These elections will give the voters a chance to express their anger. If you can please throw some money to help the Dems.
mzmolly
(52,736 posts)All but one as I recall. Thank you for indicating that its some Democrats versus all Democrats.