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HereForTheParty

(915 posts)
Fri Mar 14, 2025, 04:12 PM Mar 2025

Schumer and the Dems who voted 'yes' own what Trump does for the next six months

"One thing is certain, if we pass this continuing resolution for the next half year, we will own what the president does."

Sen. Adam Schiff

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Schumer and the Dems who voted 'yes' own what Trump does for the next six months (Original Post) HereForTheParty Mar 2025 OP
Yes, except that the entire Party will now suffer for it. Think. Again. Mar 2025 #1
Nursing homes will evict residents who can't pay. Gophergrunt Mar 2025 #2
Also many states have filial responsibility laws. markodochartaigh Mar 2025 #27
The feckless leader, Chuck Gutless and his 9 dwarves... Nanjeanne Mar 2025 #3
No, Trump and Republucans own it JI7 Mar 2025 #4
Schumer had the chance to stop them so if you want to blame Rs that's fine but the collaborator gets blame too. Nanjeanne Mar 2025 #6
Schumer can't stop them from the shit they are doing JI7 Mar 2025 #8
Thank you hannah Mar 2025 #13
What? Trexmaster Mar 2025 #14
Yes, this is learned helplessness. TomSlick Mar 2025 #36
The filibuster Cirsium Mar 2025 #16
THIS RIGHT HERE. Susan Calvin Mar 2025 #39
They certainly did. PortTack Mar 2025 #26
Trump was just given Democratic approval to cut $18 billion in domestic spending. Self Esteem Mar 2025 #37
Don't think for a minute that I don't fully understand what you are saying. PortTack Mar 2025 #42
Schumer is consistent Kerrycrat Mar 2025 #40
It works for the Republicans Cirsium Mar 2025 #49
And the people who voted with them. Schumer and his merry gang own this. Wifes husband Mar 2025 #21
That's like blaming Democrats who voted no if people don't get paid JI7 Mar 2025 #24
I recommend you read the bill they voted for. Wifes husband Mar 2025 #28
The point is the Republicans are to blame as they control JI7 Mar 2025 #34
Bullshit. The fascist felon and his party own this LymphocyteLover Mar 2025 #33
Republicans own what Trump does. betsuni Mar 2025 #5
Republicans and the people who voted for them own what Trump does Orangepeel Mar 2025 #7
OK Cirsium Mar 2025 #18
They voted to end America DSandra Mar 2025 #9
Nonsense. Total hyperbole. LymphocyteLover Mar 2025 #35
K & R Emile Mar 2025 #10
Apparently the oath of office means nothing anymore DSandra Mar 2025 #11
Better off pointing fingers at MuchBetterThanThis Mar 2025 #12
And as 1/3 of the eligible voters say "What is the difference in the parties?" "It doesn't make any difference in who LiberalArkie Mar 2025 #15
Absolutely good point. Wifes husband Mar 2025 #23
Voting to shut down the government Pototan Mar 2025 #17
How? Cirsium Mar 2025 #19
Furloughed employees could be Pototan Mar 2025 #46
They are on record supporting a republican bill. They own this Wifes husband Mar 2025 #25
Exactly...see post #26. These are not my thoughts but those of astute political analysts PortTack Mar 2025 #29
Agree LymphocyteLover Mar 2025 #31
right or wrong voteragain Mar 2025 #20
Exactly! ObamaKerryDem Mar 2025 #22
I disagree. There's no world where the GOP is going to be more eager to reopening the govt than the Dems LymphocyteLover Mar 2025 #30
Not true. DJT is going to have a hard time blaming Dems for his many screw-ups. nt Exp Mar 2025 #32
Sen. Schiff is correct. TomSlick Mar 2025 #38
Ten Democratic senators gave up Congress's Article I power and responsibility to a predator with Article II's authority. Efilroft Sul Mar 2025 #41
Strike IowaUnionman Mar 2025 #43
Agree Pototan Mar 2025 #47
They endorsed it. The Vichy democrats. CountMyVote4Reality Mar 2025 #44
Focus on DownriverDem Mar 2025 #45
As do the vast majority of Republicans. mzmolly Mar 2025 #48

Gophergrunt

(14 posts)
2. Nursing homes will evict residents who can't pay.
Fri Mar 14, 2025, 04:25 PM
Mar 2025

Nursing homes will evict residents who don't have social security and health insurance enough to cover cost.This would bankrupt every city in this country if Trump and his lap dog kill medicaid and social security. The point is the pain both are sociopaths.

markodochartaigh

(5,300 posts)
27. Also many states have filial responsibility laws.
Fri Mar 14, 2025, 06:30 PM
Mar 2025

If they start enforcing those laws a lot of Tiktok kids living with their parents are going to find themselves with a new roommate.

Nanjeanne

(6,546 posts)
3. The feckless leader, Chuck Gutless and his 9 dwarves...
Fri Mar 14, 2025, 04:27 PM
Mar 2025

Dopey, Dummy, Useless, Spineless, Hopeless, Worthless, Feeble, Weak and Impotent just destroyed the chance for Democratic Party to rebrand and remessage.

Good luck with fundraising. And those town halls you could have done with angry Republicans where you could have shown what the Democratic Party was fighting for — will now be no different than the Republican ones - filled with angry constituents.

JI7

(93,402 posts)
4. No, Trump and Republucans own it
Fri Mar 14, 2025, 04:29 PM
Mar 2025

You can still think Schumer and other democrats are wrong in how they vote.

But the blame begins to those that control the House , Senate, and presidency.

Nanjeanne

(6,546 posts)
6. Schumer had the chance to stop them so if you want to blame Rs that's fine but the collaborator gets blame too.
Fri Mar 14, 2025, 04:51 PM
Mar 2025

JI7

(93,402 posts)
8. Schumer can't stop them from the shit they are doing
Fri Mar 14, 2025, 04:53 PM
Mar 2025

Blame Republicans for the shit they do.

 

Trexmaster

(63 posts)
14. What?
Fri Mar 14, 2025, 05:14 PM
Mar 2025

Is this what they mean by "learned helplessness"?

They'll never follow court orders either.

TomSlick

(12,950 posts)
36. Yes, this is learned helplessness.
Fri Mar 14, 2025, 06:38 PM
Mar 2025

It is also capitulation and appeasement.

Welcome to DU. We can met at the gulag.

Cirsium

(3,727 posts)
16. The filibuster
Fri Mar 14, 2025, 05:55 PM
Mar 2025

Republicans use the filibuster to extract compromises from the Democrats. They never felt they were in a "no win situation."

When Republicans use the filibuster too many Democrats say "we are in a 'no win situation.' Blame the Republicans."

When Democrats fail to use the filibuster too many Democrats say "we are in a 'no win situation.' Blame the Republicans."

PortTack

(35,816 posts)
26. They certainly did.
Fri Mar 14, 2025, 06:27 PM
Mar 2025

The tsf and muskrat wanted a shut down. Who knows how long the shut down would’ve lasted. It would fall to the republicans to decide how much more pain they want to inflict with a shut down. Government employees either furloughed because of the shut down, or working with no pay would leave cause no one can go without pay for weeks on end. We’d be doing their dirty work for them. Their goal as we know is to skeletonize the government even further.

Very unfortunately it was a win either way for them and either way a loss for the American ppl.

Don’t bash me for putting these facts out there!

 

Self Esteem

(2,248 posts)
37. Trump was just given Democratic approval to cut $18 billion in domestic spending.
Fri Mar 14, 2025, 06:41 PM
Mar 2025

And that's just over the next six months. Who knows what other cuts will be added to the next CR that Democrats will now inevitably support because gosh Trump really seriously wants a shutdown!

In the meantime, Trump and Co will continue firing federal employees and ignoring the courts, which he's already doing.

Nothing was won today. Democrats folded and just showed the Republicans that they can bring even more severe cuts to the table next time because you can't risk a government shutdown!

PortTack

(35,816 posts)
42. Don't think for a minute that I don't fully understand what you are saying.
Fri Mar 14, 2025, 07:07 PM
Mar 2025

The whole thing makes me weak in the knees.

I do think as do some political analysts that the situation would be much worse if we left things close …seriously who knows when they would agree to reopen it. They hold all the cards.

I will look for the link I read that supported not closing things down. I sure wish I had bookmarked it, but didn’t

Kerrycrat

(160 posts)
40. Schumer is consistent
Fri Mar 14, 2025, 06:43 PM
Mar 2025

He was against a shut down when the Republicans did it. Still against it when there was talk of Dems doing it.

It would have been performative and nothing else

Cirsium

(3,727 posts)
49. It works for the Republicans
Sat Mar 15, 2025, 12:01 AM
Mar 2025

The Republicans can always get concessions from the Dems with this tactic. It isn't "performative" when they use it, it is quite effective.

The filibuster is merely a tactic, it isn't a matter of grand principle. It is a Senate rule, not something Moses brought down from the mountain. Consistency in tactics is a weakness.

Wifes husband

(715 posts)
28. I recommend you read the bill they voted for.
Fri Mar 14, 2025, 06:30 PM
Mar 2025

The Republicans are in the majority. A shut down is their problem. 10 democrats are on record supporting a Republican bill that is as bad as a shut down, maybe worse.

They are firing thousands of people illegally right now, so I don't understand your point

Cirsium

(3,727 posts)
18. OK
Fri Mar 14, 2025, 05:59 PM
Mar 2025

I'll blame the rain when the workers fail to fix my roof.

I'll blame the arsonists when the fire fighters fail to show up.

Republicans and the people who voted for them do not own the Democrats' failure to filibuster.

LymphocyteLover

(9,633 posts)
35. Nonsense. Total hyperbole.
Fri Mar 14, 2025, 06:34 PM
Mar 2025

you're taking all agency away from the GOP-- essentially saying they are robots who will only do horrible things -- and making Dems the only ones who control anything, which is BS, because Dem leverage is crap in a govt shutdown.

Emile

(41,638 posts)
10. K & R
Fri Mar 14, 2025, 04:57 PM
Mar 2025

By voting with the republican majority, they are saying (imo) that they believe Trump has a mandate.

DSandra

(1,718 posts)
11. Apparently the oath of office means nothing anymore
Fri Mar 14, 2025, 04:59 PM
Mar 2025

“ I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic.”

12. Better off pointing fingers at
Fri Mar 14, 2025, 05:00 PM
Mar 2025

… the American people who allowed this shit to even be possible.
Screw all this “feckless Dems”, Schumer that BS. All the infighting about Gaza, Bidens age, etc doomed this country.
We can never unify on the better things it seems. Dem or Republicans.

LiberalArkie

(19,571 posts)
15. And as 1/3 of the eligible voters say "What is the difference in the parties?" "It doesn't make any difference in who
Fri Mar 14, 2025, 05:28 PM
Mar 2025

I vote for.?

Pototan

(3,044 posts)
17. Voting to shut down the government
Fri Mar 14, 2025, 05:56 PM
Mar 2025

would have played into Musk's hands,

These 10 Dems did the correct thing. We were left with two choices, bad and worse. Schumer chose bad. Shutting the government down would have been worse.

Pototan

(3,044 posts)
46. Furloughed employees could be
Fri Mar 14, 2025, 08:03 PM
Mar 2025

permanent. Trump and Musk could have kept some departments closed and others open by their own whim.

PortTack

(35,816 posts)
29. Exactly...see post #26. These are not my thoughts but those of astute political analysts
Fri Mar 14, 2025, 06:30 PM
Mar 2025

If I can find the link, I will post it.

voteragain

(52 posts)
20. right or wrong
Fri Mar 14, 2025, 06:08 PM
Mar 2025

the song "I've been in through the desert on a horse with no name" keeps coming back to my mind.

LymphocyteLover

(9,633 posts)
30. I disagree. There's no world where the GOP is going to be more eager to reopening the govt than the Dems
Fri Mar 14, 2025, 06:32 PM
Mar 2025

GOP fascists are gonna do what they do and shutting down the govt would not have stopped it.

Really all this does is take away a lot of drama about when will the Dems cave. Because is there any doubt that Dems would feel more pressure to open up the govt than the GOP?

The other benefits to keeping the govt open are: the courts stay open, govt workers get paid, and whatever economic downturn comes from the mess that felon 47 is making of the country can be blamed solely on him and not on Dems shutting down the govt.

TomSlick

(12,950 posts)
38. Sen. Schiff is correct.
Fri Mar 14, 2025, 06:43 PM
Mar 2025

Schumer and his co-conspirators capitulated. They own the bill.

When Granny is evicted from the nursing home, it's on them.

Efilroft Sul

(4,384 posts)
41. Ten Democratic senators gave up Congress's Article I power and responsibility to a predator with Article II's authority.
Fri Mar 14, 2025, 06:54 PM
Mar 2025

They joined with Trump's MAGA Republican enablers to surrender their Constitutional turf without a fight. This vote set a dangerous precedent for the next time, when these same Democrats will be expected to roll over and show their bellies again. You watch, Trump will later claim he has that power, that Schumer gave it to him in March. And the other nine bobbleheads who joined Schumer today will say, "That we did, oh, yes, we did."

There was way more on the line today than just keeping this dysfunctional government open. Schumer knew it, and he deliberately dropped the ball. Absolutely unforgivable.

IowaUnionman

(20 posts)
43. Strike
Fri Mar 14, 2025, 07:09 PM
Mar 2025

If you come to impasse and shut it down ,then they fund what they want and don’t fund anything we want.
We gat all the blame they get what they want and then we really are weak.
While distasteful we must face the reality . You don’t get what you want by pounding on the table.
Voters love the rough tough guy with the large mouth until it affects them .
We have to play the rope a rope until we have some leverage.

DownriverDem

(7,000 posts)
45. Focus on
Fri Mar 14, 2025, 07:18 PM
Mar 2025

the special elections. In Florida the April 1st elections are for the CD1 & CD6. There is another special election in New York for the CD21 seat. These elections will give the voters a chance to express their anger. If you can please throw some money to help the Dems.

mzmolly

(52,736 posts)
48. As do the vast majority of Republicans.
Fri Mar 14, 2025, 09:10 PM
Mar 2025

All but one as I recall. Thank you for indicating that it’s “some” Democrats versus all Democrats.

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