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Whatever happened to those Palestinian protests? (Original Post) OAITW r.2.0 Mar 2025 OP
They did their bidding for the puppet master MarineCombatEngineer Mar 2025 #1
Huh. Eko Mar 2025 #11
Buyers' remorse...and there is a ceasefire...which Netanyahu is trying his best... brush Mar 2025 #82
always happens - Qanon, pizza parlor kiddie stealing, pet eating - it all just vanishes. NewHendoLib Mar 2025 #2
Did they take Senator Timmy Scott with them Submariner Mar 2025 #3
Timmy got married Traildogbob Mar 2025 #7
Why not read the responses to this thread iemanja Mar 2025 #22
Celerity's post shows they haven't stopped iemanja Mar 2025 #21
That's true, Celerity's post is great. Think. Again. Mar 2025 #67
Here they are - womanofthehills Mar 2025 #104
what the effin hell are Twitter posts here? I had I hoped our tribe would know better than to post there msfiddlestix Mar 2025 #111
They were taken home dweller Mar 2025 #4
Lol! Kaleva Mar 2025 #29
Yes, once they knew that it would be useless to protest under a trump presidency, they stopped. Think. Again. Mar 2025 #5
So they gave up, folded, spineless, complicit, no more speaking truth to power or standing up to power, betsuni Mar 2025 #13
What have you done. Eko Mar 2025 #14
Doing nothing was more than those "Protesters" did. Worthless, feckless, spineless anti-American terrorist enablers. n/t Hellbound Hellhound Mar 2025 #18
I protested. Eko Mar 2025 #19
No. n/t Hellbound Hellhound Mar 2025 #24
then dont. Eko Mar 2025 #25
Sure. n/t Hellbound Hellhound Mar 2025 #26
You think I should be deported. Eko Mar 2025 #27
I think people who broke into state buildings and trashed government property should be punished. Hellbound Hellhound Mar 2025 #28
Interesting. Eko Mar 2025 #30
Yes, considering they did nothing but harm their own cause to the point of implosion. N/t Hellbound Hellhound Mar 2025 #37
Those protesters peacefully occupied a building. yardwork Mar 2025 #62
I agree, the rightwing instigators SHOULD be punished. Think. Again. Mar 2025 #69
The pro-Israel lobby is anti-American, radius777 Mar 2025 #33
Which pro-Israeli lobby are you referring to, and what is anti-American about them? Be specific. Beastly Boy Mar 2025 #74
Pro-Israel and pro-Israel govt with Netanyahu in charge are two separate issues. 58Sunliner Mar 2025 #83
I am not the one who is confused. Beastly Boy Mar 2025 #86
The last line is a straw man and imho has no context here. You choose to be pro-Israel without a distinction. 58Sunliner Mar 2025 #99
The context was of radius777's choosing. The false presumption was evident in that post, and so were its implications. Beastly Boy Mar 2025 #110
Israel is in danger of becoming non-democratic. Unless you are specifying that no money should support the genocide, 58Sunliner Mar 2025 #112
No money should support genocide. Beastly Boy Mar 2025 #117
Netanyahu and his RW regime are the biggest terrorists of all. /nt radius777 Mar 2025 #35
Ah yes, "the Jooz". How dare they want to live without fear of radical idiots trying to kill them. N/t Hellbound Hellhound Mar 2025 #38
The genocide of Jews was done by whites, not brown people. radius777 Mar 2025 #39
You are completely wrong. yardwork Mar 2025 #66
So which came first? Did the whites genocide Jews and then Beastly Boy Mar 2025 #79
What a ridiculous thing to say. yardwork Mar 2025 #63
I voted for Harris NickB79 Mar 2025 #59
Yep, pretty much. AkFemDem Mar 2025 #55
I seem to remember... sheshe2 Mar 2025 #17
That isn't how primaries work... Think. Again. Mar 2025 #44
Tlaib told her constituents not to vote for Harris in the general election. yardwork Mar 2025 #70
Again, I don't know the numbers.... Think. Again. Mar 2025 #77
Has anyone asked her about it? Has she even admitted she was wrong, I doubt it. Walleye Mar 2025 #92
They carried that over to the general election. sheshe2 Mar 2025 #93
Tlaib's city General Election results from CBS: JustABozoOnThisBus Mar 2025 #95
Yes I will never forget that Tribetime Mar 2025 #48
you don't believe Littlered Mar 2025 #54
I had no idea that hostilities had ceased. yardwork Mar 2025 #72
This is the single most absurd argument I've ever heard. yardwork Mar 2025 #61
I don't know the exact numbers.... Think. Again. Mar 2025 #64
And that's one of the clumsiest deflections I've seen. yardwork Mar 2025 #68
I think THAT was a clumsy deflection... Think. Again. Mar 2025 #73
Yelling "genocide Joe" didn't seem all that reasonable to me Walleye Mar 2025 #91
Pro-Palestinian protesters made their bed, now they have to lie in it DSandra Mar 2025 #98
They oppose liberalism Egwinsi Mar 2025 #6
Bingo. They side with Russia and North Korea. yardwork Mar 2025 #76
Do you care about what is happening to the Palestinians? Big Blue Marble Mar 2025 #8
The entire issue is the sincerity you are claiming on their behalf. Beastly Boy Mar 2025 #84
If a protester said or nodded along to "Genocide Joe" or "Killer Kamala" chanting ZRB Mar 2025 #118
Why should they have worked their asses off to elect Dem when they Big Blue Marble Mar 2025 #120
They are getting deported for peacefully protesting. Eko Mar 2025 #9
They are not. Beastly Boy Mar 2025 #85
like these? Celerity Mar 2025 #10
Bam and Kick and Rec. Eko Mar 2025 #12
Bravo to you and them. K&R Ping Tung Mar 2025 #15
I was wondering the same thing. ... littlemissmartypants Mar 2025 #16
Where are the demands to return the hostages? The dead and the ones barely alive? question everything Mar 2025 #23
netanyahu never took hostages, just killed them in the streets, schools, and hospitals... Think. Again. Mar 2025 #45
When did he do this,? NT Tickle Mar 2025 #49
Are you really trying to rewrite history on this already? Think. Again. Mar 2025 #50
I was asking a question, Tickle Mar 2025 #51
You were askng a question... Think. Again. Mar 2025 #52
Those deaths are on Hamas ZRB Mar 2025 #119
Standing up to bullies has been proven to stop bullying. Think. Again. Mar 2025 #122
He's done it throughout the war iemanja Mar 2025 #107
Yes I know. I wasn't sure Tickle Mar 2025 #108
Thank you for providing the details. Avalon Sparks Mar 2025 #34
The media saturation of the protests has stopped. JanMichael Mar 2025 #53
Thank you so much al bupp Mar 2025 #57
"... the ignorant narrative... " You're very kind. Mariana Mar 2025 #60
Shhh SocialDemocrat61 Mar 2025 #94
The protestors have been expelled, degrees cancelled, iemanja Mar 2025 #20
Odd, that. I still believe that Palestinians have been screwed over royally by Isreel. Buns_of_Fire Mar 2025 #31
Mission accomplished I gues. RandySF Mar 2025 #32
They were protesting for a ceasefire, which is currently in place. radius777 Mar 2025 #36
It does no good to divide the party Walleye Mar 2025 #41
I agree, OP's like this do no good. Think. Again. Mar 2025 #46
Funny... no one cared about this when they were shouting down Biden and Harris? AkFemDem Mar 2025 #56
I cared about it. Biden and Harris were our nominees. Other Democrats shouting them down was just counterproductive. Walleye Mar 2025 #58
I also cared... Think. Again. Mar 2025 #75
Well, the protesters accomplished exactly nothing with their disruptions Walleye Mar 2025 #90
Not true, Biden did show a stronger stance before leaving the race. Think. Again. Mar 2025 #121
Still a big story... Mike Nelson Mar 2025 #40
Perhaps that explains this OP. Think. Again. Mar 2025 #47
Their job was to get Trump elected. Period. Irish_Dem Mar 2025 #42
We're still here protesting against genocide RandiFan1290 Mar 2025 #43
Mission was accomplished. nt LexVegas Mar 2025 #65
They are still happening. Maybe you don't care enough to pay attention. I don't know. Cuthbert Allgood Mar 2025 #71
They got their man elected. Job done. nt jrthin Mar 2025 #78
Well, they succeeded in electing a fellow vicious anti-Semite as president, nothing really left for them to protest. tritsofme Mar 2025 #80
Skeedaddled from the scene of the crime evidently gulliver Mar 2025 #81
Various things happened karynnj Mar 2025 #87
Whatever happened to BLM protests? DBoon Mar 2025 #88
It was astroturfing. DiamondShark Mar 2025 #89
Mission accomplished ZRB Mar 2025 #96
You got it right in your first answer. MineralMan Mar 2025 #97
they have not stopped Celerity Mar 2025 #100
They haven't stopped iemanja Mar 2025 #109
Pootin quit paying them SheltieLover Mar 2025 #101
As designed, these protests got trump elected LetMyPeopleVote Mar 2025 #102
They were designed to punish the Democrats LS0999 Mar 2025 #103
Do you have proof of your accusation? N/T Big Blue Marble Mar 2025 #105
I've got 50 years of voting and seeing how elections get gamed for Republicans. OAITW r.2.0 Mar 2025 #113
And I have been observing elections significantly longer. Big Blue Marble Mar 2025 #115
How the fuck would I know? But getting people to blame Biden/Kamala for the Israeli hostage situation? OAITW r.2.0 Mar 2025 #116
The guy they voted for started deporting them. GoodRaisin Mar 2025 #106
Pretty sure there was no immigrant. But those naturalized citizens. They are at risk...unless they know someone OAITW r.2.0 Mar 2025 #114
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MarineCombatEngineer

(17,903 posts)
1. They did their bidding for the puppet master
Sat Mar 15, 2025, 10:11 PM
Mar 2025

and now their mission is done, however, it's not turning out quite like they expected it would, they fucked around, now they're in the finding out phase.

Eko

(9,891 posts)
11. Huh.
Sat Mar 15, 2025, 11:44 PM
Mar 2025

Maybe I was at some of those protests. I'm a US citizen all the way back to our founding as one of my forebears said something like "Give me liberty or give me death". I kinda take that seriously. How could you not when your ancestor did. Hard to live up to that but hey at least I take it seriously. I didn't do any bidding of any puppet master, I just saw a lot of civilians getting killed. The ROE the Israelis use allows for way more collateral damage than we the US use. Or at least used to. Things have changed ya know. Like people getting deported for their political view. I'll be honest, I look kinda mexican. My little brother calls me "Chavez". I got my DL but I dont tend to carry around my birth certificate. You going to say I fucked around and found out if they deport me? I will always be faithful in those that defend freedom. I protested. I will take whatever fuck around and find out and it will always be worth it.

 

brush

(61,033 posts)
82. Buyers' remorse...and there is a ceasefire...which Netanyahu is trying his best...
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 09:36 AM
Mar 2025

to see that it fails with his continued attacks on Gaza...like there's anything else to bomb.

Blocking trucks bringing in food, water and medical aid is actually going on now.

NewHendoLib

(61,749 posts)
2. always happens - Qanon, pizza parlor kiddie stealing, pet eating - it all just vanishes.
Sat Mar 15, 2025, 10:11 PM
Mar 2025

weird, isn't it?

Submariner

(13,306 posts)
3. Did they take Senator Timmy Scott with them
Sat Mar 15, 2025, 10:22 PM
Mar 2025

One minute he was the VP candidate on his knee proposing to the love of his life on the beach, and one minute after November 5th, he went extinct.

Traildogbob

(12,845 posts)
7. Timmy got married
Sat Mar 15, 2025, 10:41 PM
Mar 2025

And discovered sex. The protesters all went back to their local GQP headquarters to start planning 2026 tactics.

iemanja

(57,680 posts)
21. Celerity's post shows they haven't stopped
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 01:07 AM
Mar 2025

Despite the Trump administrations efforts to imprison and deport protestors, censure and control universities, and exterminate Palestinians, as well as end the First Amendment.

 

Think. Again.

(22,456 posts)
67. That's true, Celerity's post is great.
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 09:12 AM
Mar 2025

I was mistaken with my post because I fell victim to the fact that the media has stopped (for the most part) giving us the info on the ongoing protests.

womanofthehills

(10,835 posts)
104. Here they are -
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 05:56 PM
Mar 2025

🚨 BREAKING: New Yorkers take the streets in NYC on the National Day of Action for Palestine, standing with Mahmoud Khalil!


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?s=46&t=YZgyyp4w_z7vW3neKxa6cQ


?s=46&t=YZgyyp4w_z7vW3neKxa6cQ


?s=46&t=YZgyyp4w_z7vW3neKxa6cQ

London

?s=46&t=YZgyyp4w_z7vW3neKxa6cQ

Germany


?s=46&t=YZgyyp4w_z7vW3neKxa6cQ

Korea


?s=46&t=YZgyyp4w_z7vW3neKxa6cQ

msfiddlestix

(8,172 posts)
111. what the effin hell are Twitter posts here? I had I hoped our tribe would know better than to post there
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 08:42 PM
Mar 2025
 

Think. Again.

(22,456 posts)
5. Yes, once they knew that it would be useless to protest under a trump presidency, they stopped.
Sat Mar 15, 2025, 10:33 PM
Mar 2025

Last edited Sun Mar 16, 2025, 09:29 AM - Edit history (1)

With a reasonable president (Biden) in the Whitehouse, it was worth trying to save the lives of innocent, non-hamas Palestinians, but knowing trump was in cahoots with rightwing netanyahu, it was futile to continue.

Edito add:

I am wrong about what I wrote above, see Celerity's post #10 for great info on the ongoing protests.

betsuni

(28,928 posts)
13. So they gave up, folded, spineless, complicit, no more speaking truth to power or standing up to power,
Sat Mar 15, 2025, 11:54 PM
Mar 2025

no more grassroots, weak leadership jumped ship, gave up their morals, not a genocide any more? No mean nickname for Trump like Genocide Joe or Killer Kamala because it would be, like, totally useless and futile and way too much trouble.

Oh, okay.

18. Doing nothing was more than those "Protesters" did. Worthless, feckless, spineless anti-American terrorist enablers. n/t
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 12:53 AM
Mar 2025
28. I think people who broke into state buildings and trashed government property should be punished.
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 01:59 AM
Mar 2025

If that includes immigrants on visas and green cards, then yes, I believe those people should be deported. Just as I believe protesters who broke into the Capitol and government buildings in DC should have been arrested and given criminal felonies a la January 6th.

Traitors are traitors. Treat them thusly.

Eko

(9,891 posts)
30. Interesting.
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 02:16 AM
Mar 2025

In April 1968, students at Columbia University, protesting the Vietnam War and the university's plans to build a segregated gym in Morningside Park, occupied Hamilton Hall and other buildings, leading to a week-long standoff and a large police crackdown that resulted in numerous arrests.
Them also? Think that was good?

yardwork

(69,139 posts)
62. Those protesters peacefully occupied a building.
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 09:06 AM
Mar 2025

The recent protesters at Columbia locked facilities staff in the building with them, preventing them from going home. They plugged toilets with cement. They broke windows, busted up furniture, and destroyed locks and doors. They trashed buildings and kidnapped people.

Don't drag peaceful Vietnam War protests into this. It's offensive.

radius777

(3,921 posts)
33. The pro-Israel lobby is anti-American,
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 02:50 AM
Mar 2025

as it directs our tax dollars towards propping up a right wing genocidal regime.

 

Beastly Boy

(13,283 posts)
74. Which pro-Israeli lobby are you referring to, and what is anti-American about them? Be specific.
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 09:22 AM
Mar 2025

I am pro-Israel. Does this make me anti-American by default?

Consider this in rethinking what you posted:

dual loyalty

noun 'd(y)oōəl 'loiəltē

: loyalty to two separate interests that potentially conflict with each other, leading to a conflict of interest
WHEN IT’S ANTISEMITIC:

Dual loyalty is a bigoted trope used to cast Jews as the “other.” For example, it becomes antisemitic when an American Jew’s connection to Israel is scrutinized to the point of questioning his or her trustworthiness or loyalty to the United States.
https://www.ajc.org/translatehate/dual-loyalty

58Sunliner

(6,274 posts)
83. Pro-Israel and pro-Israel govt with Netanyahu in charge are two separate issues.
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 09:38 AM
Mar 2025

They should not be confused, yet you are. Many Israelis don't support their govt's actions. Just like Americans and Trump.

 

Beastly Boy

(13,283 posts)
86. I am not the one who is confused.
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 10:09 AM
Mar 2025

The poster I replied to used the term "pro-Israel lobby", making no such distinctions as you are making, and thus presuming that all of them direct "our tax dollars" (a fallacy on top of guilt by association) towards "propping up a right wing genocidal regime".

Once again, I am pro-Israel, I contribute my honestly earned dollars and no one else-s tax dollars to pro-Israel lobby, to lobby for Israel, which includes, as you mentioned, many Israelis who don't support their government's actions.

Does this make me anti-American any more than my contributions to World Central Kitchen?

58Sunliner

(6,274 posts)
99. The last line is a straw man and imho has no context here. You choose to be pro-Israel without a distinction.
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 03:29 PM
Mar 2025

So do the lobbyists who are after our tax dollars. Have a nice day.

 

Beastly Boy

(13,283 posts)
110. The context was of radius777's choosing. The false presumption was evident in that post, and so were its implications.
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 08:31 PM
Mar 2025

Here is what I replied to:"The pro-Israel lobby is anti-American, as it directs our tax dollars towards propping up a right wing genocidal regime." The assumption here is that lobbying for Israel is anti-American. And the presumption here, wrapped in incendiary rhetoric and as deviod of substance as it is categorical, is that the Israel lobby, whatever it is made up of, is after our tax dollars to fund Netanyahu's regime, not Israel as a liberal democraric state.

Naturally, as a supporter of Israel, I took offense to this load of garbage, and I replied accordingly and appropriately.

In this context, the end portion of my post which includes the sentence that displeased you, reads as follows:

"Once again, I am pro-Israel, I contribute my honestly earned dollars and no one else-s tax dollars to pro-Israel lobby, to lobby for Israel, which includes, as you mentioned, many Israelis who don't support their government's actions.

Does this make me anti-American any more than my contributions to World Central Kitchen?"

You presumed, I am guessing, that my reference to my contributions to causes other than Israel creates a strawman, which, I am guessing, is deemed by you to be out of context (a lot of guessing here because you are, deliberately or unintentionally, being rather cryptic). Well, the context is right here for you to see, and my post illustrates the absurdity of the statement I originally replied to. It was addressed to you because you inserted yourself in the thread, no other reason.

If you think you are unwilling or unable to sustain a convincing argument, by all means, have a nice day.

58Sunliner

(6,274 posts)
112. Israel is in danger of becoming non-democratic. Unless you are specifying that no money should support the genocide,
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 09:33 PM
Mar 2025

lobbyists are supporting the genocide by the absence of demands and ignoring the reality of what the govt is doing. Comparing the Israeli govt to the world kitchen, a charity that they bombed and killed workers, is ludicrous.

 

Beastly Boy

(13,283 posts)
117. No money should support genocide.
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 10:47 PM
Mar 2025

Last edited Mon Mar 17, 2025, 12:07 AM - Edit history (1)

Now, unless you specify that "genocide" as you use the term with respect to Israel is not meant to describe a factual condition in Gaza, or that the lobby groups in question do not specifically petition to bomb Gazan civilians, or that absence of demands on Israeli government within Israel or in diaspora is a lame fantasy, or that only a tiny part of your taxpayer dollars ends up in Gaza, or that you never bothered to inquire about the facts pertaining to the above, or if you did, you are ignoring them, then pretending that this is a serious conversation is ludicrous.

38. Ah yes, "the Jooz". How dare they want to live without fear of radical idiots trying to kill them. N/t
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 02:57 AM
Mar 2025

radius777

(3,921 posts)
39. The genocide of Jews was done by whites, not brown people.
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 03:01 AM
Mar 2025

Zionism was created by whites to steal brown land and resources (oil).

yardwork

(69,139 posts)
66. You are completely wrong.
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 09:09 AM
Mar 2025

You know nothing of middle eastern history or world history if you think that only white people committed genocide against Jewish people.

 

Beastly Boy

(13,283 posts)
79. So which came first? Did the whites genocide Jews and then
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 09:34 AM
Mar 2025

create Zionism to steal "brown land", or did the whites decide to steal brown lands, created Zionism for that purpose, and then genocided Jews?

I am wondering what sources you use for your references to history.

NickB79

(20,295 posts)
59. I voted for Harris
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 08:57 AM
Mar 2025

They handed the enemy extra ammunition to get Trump elected by shit talking her.

 

AkFemDem

(2,508 posts)
55. Yep, pretty much.
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 08:09 AM
Mar 2025

Destroyed our democracy for Palestine and then skulked off like cowards after the election. I really don't care if a single non-citizen who was part of that movement is kicked out over it now. You made your MAGA broth, now cook in it.

sheshe2

(96,878 posts)
17. I seem to remember...
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 12:52 AM
Mar 2025

Congresswoman Rashida Tlaib tells fellow Democrats: reject Biden in primary

Michigan representative tells state voters to pick ‘uncommitted’ option over White House support for Israel’s strikes on Gaza

snip

If you want us to be louder, then come here and vote uncommitted” rather than in support of Biden, the Democratic party’s presumptive nominee for November’s presidential election
.

snip

It also said: “Therefore, we pledge to check the box for ‘uncommitted’ on our ballots in the upcoming presidential primary election. These are not empty words; they signify our steadfast commitment to justice, dignity, and the sanctity of human life, which is greater than loyalty to any candidate or party.”



snip

And here we have good ole Nina Turner weighing in, this is the woman that said this"
Turner uses expletive to describe race between President Trump & Joe Biden
“It’s like saying to somebody, ‘You have a bowl of s**t in front of you, and all you’ve got to do is eat half of it instead of the whole thing.'"

https://www.wkyc.com/article/news/politics/nina-turner-thoughts-2020-presidential-race/95-503173bd-c93e-43ee-b303-be8e68793f21

The former Ohio Democratic state senator Nina Turner tweeted, “Arab Americans do not want their tax dollars going to kill their family members. It’s unnerving to see the liberal response to that demand. Rashida Tlaib is absolutely justified to endorse this.”


https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/feb/18/rashida-tlaib-joe-biden-michigan-democratic-primary

Now just look at how that all worked out for them. They never once protested the man, trump, who clearly, very clearly, said he was pro Israel and he would wipe out Gaza. They knew.

You will never convince me that these protests were not bought and paid for, when their job was done, poof, they went away.

They gave us trump. Fact.

 

Think. Again.

(22,456 posts)
44. That isn't how primaries work...
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 06:35 AM
Mar 2025

Primaries are not the general election, so not voting for Biden in the primary did not affect trump's success in the general election at all.

In fact, the number of Arab-Americans who witheld their primary vote from Biden didn't even stop Biden from getting the nomination.

It was indeed just an act of protest to get media attention to let Biden know how important the issue was to them, and it also sparked the beginning of Biden's turn-around on sending weapons to netanyahu.

 

Think. Again.

(22,456 posts)
77. Again, I don't know the numbers....
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 09:26 AM
Mar 2025

...but I doubt the Arab-American community of Michigan was enough to throw the election.

sheshe2

(96,878 posts)
93. They carried that over to the general election.
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 12:15 PM
Mar 2025
More than half the population in Dearborn is Middle Eastern or North African. In Wayne County, which encompasses the inner-ring suburb as well as Detroit, nearly 8% of the population is Arab American — the highest percentage in the U.S.

Last November, the majority voted Democrat, except at the top of the ticket. President Trump came to Dearborn looking for votes and it worked. He won the city and took Michigan in a startling reversal for Democrats.

Snip

Trump won 42% of the vote in Dearborn, with Harris receiving 36%. Green Party and pro-ceasefire candidate Jill Stein received 18% — more than any other place in Michigan, Detroit Public Radio reported.

Abouali says the results show how angry Dearborn was at the Biden-Harris White House, mostly over its support for Israel's actions in the Gaza Strip. The community voted for Trump, despite the president's past action in banning travel from some majority Muslim countries and worries about his proposal to deport millions of immigrants.


https://www.cbsnews.com/news/arab-american-voters-trump-dearborn-michigan-israel-biden-harris/


Democrats lost 22,000 votes in Michigan’s heavily Arab American cities

Kamala Harris received at least 22,000 fewer votes than Joe Biden did four years ago in Michigan’s most heavily Arab American and Muslim cities, a Guardian analysis of raw vote data in the critical swing state finds.

The numbers also show Trump made small gains – about 9,000 votes – across those areas, suggesting Harris’s loss there is more attributable to Arab Americans either not voting or casting ballots for third-party candidates.

Support for Democrats also fell in seven precincts around the country with significant Arab American or Muslim populations, according to data compiled by the Arab American Institute. It found a combined drop in the seven precincts, from about 4,900 votes in 2020 to just 3,400 this election.

The drop in Democratic support in Hamtramck, Dearborn and Dearborn Heights – three Michigan cities with the nation’s largest Arab American and Muslim populations per capita – represent nearly 27% of the 81,000-vote difference between Harris and Donald Trump’s tallies in the state.


https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/nov/09/democrats-lose-michigan-arab-american-voters


JustABozoOnThisBus

(24,643 posts)
95. Tlaib's city General Election results from CBS:
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 01:37 PM
Mar 2025

Trump won 42% of the vote in Dearborn, with Harris receiving 36%. Green Party and pro-ceasefire candidate Jill Stein received 18% — more than any other place in Michigan, Detroit Public Radio reported.

 

Littlered

(347 posts)
54. you don't believe
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 08:03 AM
Mar 2025

the cessation of hostilities has anything to do with it? its not anything I follow that closely, but it seems from what I have read, its over. Hamas is finished and will never rule anything again.

yardwork

(69,139 posts)
72. I had no idea that hostilities had ceased.
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 09:18 AM
Mar 2025

There are numerous articles on DU's front page every day complaining about Israel's behavior.

And I guess Trump inviting Netanyahu to the White House and announcing plans to kick every Palestinian out of Gaza and develop beachfront resorts there isn't worthy of protest?

yardwork

(69,139 posts)
61. This is the single most absurd argument I've ever heard.
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 09:02 AM
Mar 2025

The protesters this OP is asking about urged people NOT to vote for Biden or Kamala. They shouted "Genocide Joe has got to go!"

Rashida Tlaib told her constituents NOT to vote for "Killer Kamala."

They deliberately got rid of the "reasonable president."

 

Think. Again.

(22,456 posts)
64. I don't know the exact numbers....
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 09:09 AM
Mar 2025

...but I highly doubt the Arab-Amarican community of Michigan was enough to throw the election.

yardwork

(69,139 posts)
68. And that's one of the clumsiest deflections I've seen.
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 09:13 AM
Mar 2025

This OP is asking where all the "Genocide Joe" protests went. Those protests happened in a lot more places than "the Arab-American community in Michigan."

They happened in Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, North Carolina, Arizona, and other swing states. All of which went to Trump by small margins.

So, yeah. I think the Putin-funded "protests" accomplished exactly what they intended to do.

 

Think. Again.

(22,456 posts)
73. I think THAT was a clumsy deflection...
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 09:18 AM
Mar 2025

You and I were discussing my post in a subthread but suddenly your referring to the OP again.

Weird.

DSandra

(1,719 posts)
98. Pro-Palestinian protesters made their bed, now they have to lie in it
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 02:03 PM
Mar 2025

I warned them about how stupid it was to be a one issue voter in this regard, and that Trump would likely be worse than Kamala, but no.... It's likely they were led by pro-Putin propagandists and now they have to pay for their foolishness. America has a gullibility problem.

Egwinsi

(67 posts)
6. They oppose liberalism
Sat Mar 15, 2025, 10:35 PM
Mar 2025

Not fascism. As one of the extremists I've argued with said..."If Gazans suffer from the Trump presidency, so will liberals"

yardwork

(69,139 posts)
76. Bingo. They side with Russia and North Korea.
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 09:25 AM
Mar 2025

I've known a number of them over the years. Their groups were infiltrated by Putin when he established absolute power in Russia. Many of the people who belong to these groups have no idea that Putin is funding them and feeding them propaganda.

They believe fantastical things. They think North Korea is a paradise of freedom. They think Russia is wonderful and they believe that fascism is a necessary and just approach. They love RFK, Jr.

You can't argue with them. They're like MAGA. They know very little about history, but they put together little fragments of facts and ideas and create an alternate reality.

One sees echoes of it here on DU.

Big Blue Marble

(5,672 posts)
8. Do you care about what is happening to the Palestinians?
Sat Mar 15, 2025, 11:06 PM
Mar 2025

Or are you using this post to mock sincere people who where standing up again war crimes
in Gaza and the West Bank? Obviously the anti-free speach authoritarian tactics that were used
to suppress the protests took their toll. But do not take that as an indication that the support
for Palestinian rights has disappeared among young people.

 

Beastly Boy

(13,283 posts)
84. The entire issue is the sincerity you are claiming on their behalf.
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 09:46 AM
Mar 2025

And the sincerity of those who voted against Kamala and for Trump makes the whole "standing up again[st] war crimes
in Gaza and the West Bank" proposition very, very, very questionable.

ZRB

(465 posts)
118. If a protester said or nodded along to "Genocide Joe" or "Killer Kamala" chanting
Mon Mar 17, 2025, 02:20 AM
Mar 2025

Then they deserve to be mocked, ruthlessly. People sincerely concerned for Gaza should have worked their asses off getting Democrats elected rather than protesting their only allies. Their idiocy helped get us here, so yeah, they should be mocked.

Big Blue Marble

(5,672 posts)
120. Why should they have worked their asses off to elect Dem when they
Mon Mar 17, 2025, 02:37 AM
Mar 2025

saw billions of dollars being sent in weapons to kill and maim their families in Gaza by these people?

People who stand for human rights should never be mocked.

 

Beastly Boy

(13,283 posts)
85. They are not.
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 09:51 AM
Mar 2025

Regardless of the specifics of each deportation, it will be mostly the silent voiceless vulnerable non-voting non-citizens who will pay for those who voted for Trump. The ones that fucked them up so badly will remain where they are, safe and sound and free of consequences.

Celerity

(54,013 posts)
10. like these?
Sat Mar 15, 2025, 11:40 PM
Mar 2025
https://uscpr.org/pro-palestine-protests/

Today’s Protests for Palestine

Saturday, March 15, 2025

🚨Emergency #FreeMahmoudKhalil Nationwide Protests 🚨

Phoenix, AZ | 3PM at Civic Space Park
Los Angeles, CA | 1PM at Pershing Square
Sacramento, CA | 12PM at 650 Capitol Mall
Jacksonville, FL | 11AM at the Federal Courthouse
St. Louis, MO | 3PM at 4305 Woodson Rd
NYC, NY | 3PM at Times Square
Charlotte, NC | 5PM at Romare Bearden Park
Cleveland, OH | 12PM-2PM at ICE Detention Center
Hollywood, CA | 1:30PM Protest Snow White Film Premiere at El Capitan Theater
North Hollywood, CA | 6PM Know Your Rights ICE at Valley Glen Community Park
Bay Area, CA | 11AM PYM Meeting on the Economic Leg of Imperialism
Los Angeles, CA | 2PM No Other Land screening at Jackson Market
Long Beach, CA | 11AM Punch Up For Joint Struggle Rally At Long Beach City Hall
San Francisco, CA | 10:30AM Celebrate Irish & Palestinian Solidarity
San Bernadino, CA | 6PM-10PM Anti-War Market Fundraiser at Barrio Fuerza
San Diego, CA | Saturday 10AM Vigil | Sunset Cliffs Blvd and W Point Loma Blvd
Arvada, CO | Saturday Vigils 10 AM – 11 AM at 5250 Wadsworth Bypass
Jacksonville, FL | 11AM #FreeMahmoud Protest at the Federal Courthouse
New Orleans, LA | 9PM-12AM Ramadan Bazaar at Pistachio Cafe
Collingswood, NJ | Saturdays 12 PM – 2 PM 1170 Haddon Ave
Oneonta, NY | Clear forecast Saturdays 12 PM – 1PM at Muller Plaza
Bend, OR | Saturdays 12 PM – 2 PM at Brandis Square
Corvallis, OR | 12PM-1:30P Rally at Benton County Circuit Court
Houston, TX | 10:30PM Qiyaam Program at Muhammadi Masjid
Norfolk, VA | Saturdays 2-4 PM Corner of St. Paul and City Hall Ave
Ottawa, Canada | 5:30PM Fundraising Iftar for Gaza at River Lounge

March 16, 2025

Pacoima, CA | 2PM Know Your Rights ICE at Ritchie Valens Rec Center
Long Beach, CA | Sundays 11 AM Banner Drop | 3100 California Ave.
Palos Hills, IL | 6PM PYM Arab Youth Potluck and Meeting at AMP Office
Austin, TX | 1:30PM-3PM Ramadan Tatreez Workshop at Pflugerville Libary
March 17, 2025

St. Louis, MO | Call to Represent Palestine in the St. Patrick’s Day Parade in gratitude to Ireland’s solidarity
March 18, 2025

Global Day of Action: Demand Maersk cut ties with genocide at their annual general meeting

March 19, 2025

New Jersey | 6PM PYM Community Iftar Fundraiser for Gaza
March 20, 2025

Los Angeles, CA | 4:30PM No Other Land screening at Jackson Market
Houston, TX | 5:30PM The Spirit of the People Lives on at U of Houston
March 21, 2025

Chicago, IL | 8:30AM Protest Israeli bonds at the Illinois State Board of Investments
Houston, TX | 5:30PM Safeguard the Flame: From US to Palestine at Wonderlikewander
March 22, 2025

New Orleans, LA | 9PM-12AM Ramadan Bazaar at Pistachio Cafe
Falls Church, VA | 6:30PM Fundraiser Iftar at Balqees Restaurant
March 23, 2025

Los Angeles, CA | 8PM No Other Land screening at Jackson Market
Chicago, IL | 6:30PM PYM Iftar Fundraiser at 9925 S 76th Ave
March 24 & March 25, 2025

Long Beach, CA | No Other Land Documentary screening at Art Theatre Long Beach
March 28, 2025

Dearborn, MI | 6:30PM Iftar & Bazar Fundraiser for Gaza at Dearborn Banquet Hall
Houston, TX | 4:30 PM Al Quds Day Rally at Post Oak & Westheimer
March 30, 2025—LAND DAY

NYC, NY | 1PM Land Day Rally in Union Square
Los Angeles, CA | Great Ride of Return for Gaza Sunbirds
March 31 to April 4 2025: Students for Justice in Palestine Week of Rage

April 3, 2025

Syracuse, NY | 7PM “No Other Land” Screening at The Palace Theatre
April 12, 2025

Fountain Valley, CA | Int’l Women’s Day Event
June 6, 2025

Washington DC | Dykes Against Fascism March
Canada Protests
Every Sunday

Red Deer, Alberta, CA | Sundays 2:30 PM – 3:30 PM | 19 St. & Gaetz Ave.
March 15, 2025

Ottawa | 5:30PM Fundraising Iftar for Gaza at River Lounge
March 18, 2025

Global Day of Action: Demand Maersk cut ties with genocide at their annual general meeting
March 23, 2025

Montreal | 9PM Ramadan Padel Fundraiser at PadelSport
March 29, 2025

Toronto | 2PM Land Day Protest at Yonge and Dundas Square
Montreal | 2PM Al-Quds Day Protest at Dorchester Square


Pro-Palestinian protesters storm NY's Trump Tower



National demonstration in support of Palestinians begins in London | AFP


Thousands gather in central London to march in support of Palestinians.

littlemissmartypants

(32,806 posts)
16. I was wondering the same thing. ...
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 12:45 AM
Mar 2025

Thanks for bringing the receipts. But keep in mind, some are here for clicks, controversy & little more.

The good news is the information is no doubt valuable and of interest to others like you and me.

Stay encouraged, Celerity.



❤️

 

Think. Again.

(22,456 posts)
45. netanyahu never took hostages, just killed them in the streets, schools, and hospitals...
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 06:38 AM
Mar 2025

...and left them to rot.

 

Think. Again.

(22,456 posts)
52. You were askng a question...
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 07:53 AM
Mar 2025

...in an attempt to create a narrative that the IDF has not killed 10s of thousands of innocent, non-hamas Palestinian citizens of Gaza, which it undeniably has.

iemanja

(57,680 posts)
107. He's done it throughout the war
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 07:31 PM
Mar 2025

You do understand that tens of thousands of Palestinians have been killed?

 

Tickle

(4,131 posts)
108. Yes I know. I wasn't sure
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 07:45 PM
Mar 2025

what the poster was talking about at first. Then I got the attitude and I was done.

Avalon Sparks

(2,746 posts)
34. Thank you for providing the details.
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 02:50 AM
Mar 2025

Really appreciate it! Seems very risky to attend one under this administration. The riot geared meat heads that hauled off students that were peacefully protesting was bad enough, I honestly think under Dump they might kill me.

JanMichael

(25,725 posts)
53. The media saturation of the protests has stopped.
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 08:03 AM
Mar 2025

They were front and center on the nightly news daily up to November. I mean story after story. Now they are not breaking news anymore to the corporate media.

Also the media seemed focused more on university student protests which I don't see many of those on the list. Funny how university educated media types have participated in damaging the free though in all US universities.

The impression that the protestors are all gone now is spurious at best.

al bupp

(2,542 posts)
57. Thank you so much
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 08:16 AM
Mar 2025

I am so tired of the ignorant narrative which claims the protests were somehow only intended to affect the outcome of the election.

You could consider making your pay in it's own thread.

Mariana

(15,619 posts)
60. "... the ignorant narrative... " You're very kind.
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 08:59 AM
Mar 2025

I think the deception is intentional.

iemanja

(57,680 posts)
20. The protestors have been expelled, degrees cancelled,
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 01:00 AM
Mar 2025

Last edited Sun Mar 16, 2025, 01:35 AM - Edit history (1)

and are in shackles awaiting deportation. Happy now?



Buns_of_Fire

(19,083 posts)
31. Odd, that. I still believe that Palestinians have been screwed over royally by Isreel.
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 02:18 AM
Mar 2025

And I also believe that HAMAS is a cult of sub-human terrorists.

How did the US wind up in the middle of all this?

(Don't tell me, I already know: guilt.)

radius777

(3,921 posts)
36. They were protesting for a ceasefire, which is currently in place.
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 02:54 AM
Mar 2025

Note to older white liberals: you aren't entitled to the votes of youth, PoC and progressives. The biggest 'cause' for why Dems lose any election is the fact that white men (60% R) and white women (53% R) voted for Trump in droves. So save your 'FAFO' outrage for them - instead of young protesters who had minimal effect on the election.

Walleye

(44,267 posts)
58. I cared about it. Biden and Harris were our nominees. Other Democrats shouting them down was just counterproductive.
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 08:33 AM
Mar 2025
 

Think. Again.

(22,456 posts)
75. I also cared...
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 09:24 AM
Mar 2025

...at the time it seemed there were more posts bashing protesters than there were posts supporting Harris.

Mike Nelson

(10,943 posts)
40. Still a big story...
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 03:08 AM
Mar 2025

... in right-wing MAGA media. They call them "Anti-Israel Protests" and they get regular, rotation coverage.

RandiFan1290

(6,700 posts)
43. We're still here protesting against genocide
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 06:11 AM
Mar 2025

While trump and his allies cheer us being attacked and deported.

Cuthbert Allgood

(5,339 posts)
71. They are still happening. Maybe you don't care enough to pay attention. I don't know.
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 09:16 AM
Mar 2025

But they are still going on.

tritsofme

(19,858 posts)
80. Well, they succeeded in electing a fellow vicious anti-Semite as president, nothing really left for them to protest.
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 09:35 AM
Mar 2025

I’m sure they are pretty satisfied with the outcome.

gulliver

(13,850 posts)
81. Skeedaddled from the scene of the crime evidently
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 09:36 AM
Mar 2025

They really hosed the Palestinians, Muslim Americans, and the Dems. I blame the "inner child indulgers."

karynnj

(60,854 posts)
87. Various things happened
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 10:14 AM
Mar 2025

One was the ceasefire that started in January. The agreement was essentially the framework that the Biden team put together in May 2024, when both Netanyahu were not ready to agree.

The election results itself likely had an impact with the far left suddenly realizing that rather than a protest vote showing Biden/Harris their anger, they had to consider what lies in the future.

Since Trump was elected, it is very clear that even peaceful protests that break no laws could subject protesters to extreme punishment. For American born students, it could lead to being expelled because of the way universities were targeted by Congresspeople like Stefanick and now the whole Trump administration.

There were protests in NYC over the effort to report a green card holder, with an 8 months pregnant American wife. These protests happen even as Trump administration people argue that protests against the government are, in and of themselves, against the law. These people are protesting in the face of personal consequences.

There were some protesters arrested or disciplined by their schools last year, but for the most part they were people who stepped across the line into actions that were seen as illegal.

MineralMan

(150,976 posts)
97. You got it right in your first answer.
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 02:03 PM
Mar 2025

They stopped because the election was over and future protests couldn't interfere with an election.

Simple.

Big Blue Marble

(5,672 posts)
115. And I have been observing elections significantly longer.
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 10:37 PM
Mar 2025

There is no evidence or do you attempt to offer any to suggest the the Palestinian protests
were to destroy the Democrats. Real war crimes are occurring in a real place and younger
people are able to clearly see the injustice. They spoke out and paid the price of suppression.

OAITW r.2.0

(31,866 posts)
116. How the fuck would I know? But getting people to blame Biden/Kamala for the Israeli hostage situation?
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 10:46 PM
Mar 2025

Not a chance. That was on Bibi and his RW government. But, it was effective counter-ops for the 2024 election. Remember how much the broadcast media covered it?. Both Bibi and Don belong in jail. We'd be better off as a world.

GoodRaisin

(10,826 posts)
106. The guy they voted for started deporting them.
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 06:44 PM
Mar 2025

That’ll close their mouths in a hurry. No more “good trouble”. Now it’s big trouble. What stupid fucking people.

OAITW r.2.0

(31,866 posts)
114. Pretty sure there was no immigrant. But those naturalized citizens. They are at risk...unless they know someone
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 09:46 PM
Mar 2025

connected to Trump or the FL Republican Party.

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