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@marisakabas.bsky.social
In this interview Schumer says he agrees with Trumps decision to pull $400 million from Columbia. A university in his own state. And hes unconcerned about the unlawful arrest of Mahmoud Khalil, one of his constituents.
He is a traitor who needs to resign.
https://bsky.app/profile/marisakabas.bsky.social/post/3lkiti4y2ts2t

Walleye
(40,035 posts)hatrack
(62,390 posts)Priorities, people!!!
Walleye
(40,035 posts)Its not important to us though.
Nanjeanne
(6,082 posts)republianmushroom
(19,815 posts)Celerity
(49,754 posts)WASHINGTON (AP) Senate Democratic Leader Chuck Schumer is postponing several planned events this week to promote his new book, Antisemitism in America: A Warning, after some liberal groups had planned to stage protests. The cancellations of events in Baltimore, Washington, D.C. and other cities came amid widespread criticism from the partys liberal base over Schumers vote to move forward with Republican spending legislation last week. Risa Heller, a representative for Schumers book, said that the tour would be rescheduled due to security concerns.
Schumer said the spending bill was terrible but that a shutdown would have been far worse, and difficult to end, as President Donald Trump has already slashed jobs and funding for agencies across the government. A shutdown would have given Trump even more power to make cuts, Schumer said, and so many programs would be lost.
House Democrats strongly disagreed with Schumers decision and criticized him directly: We will not be complicit, Democratic leaders said in a joint statement. The public rift among Democrats, and the onslaught of criticism toward Schumer, came after years of relative unity during Trumps first term and during President Joe Bidens time in the White House. Its a reflection of how Democrats have become increasingly frustrated with their inability to stop Trumps Cabinet confirmations and mass firings of federal workers.
At a news conference on Friday, House Democratic Leader Hakeem Jeffries repeatedly refused to say whether he has confidence in Schumer a rare break for the two longtime New York colleagues. We do not want to shut down the government. But we are not afraid of a government funding showdown, Jeffries said. Schumer and Jeffries met in Brooklyn on Sunday, according to two people familiar with the meeting. But the discontent with Schumer went far beyond House leadership, and some of the nations most influential progressive groups warned of serious political consequences.
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https://bsky.app/profile/ronfilipkowski.bsky.social/post/3lklgmz6fq22e

JanMichael
(25,592 posts)spanone
(138,956 posts)jalan48
(14,871 posts)johnnyfins
(2,044 posts)To be anti semitic. It is also not illegal to protest whatever the hell you want as long as violence is not used.
ZRB
(465 posts)It's not "illegal" to send these antisemites packing. I'm here for the FAFO.
LW1977
(1,506 posts)Spineless wimp Schumer is! And fuck you to the people who send this to jury! Hes barely a Democratic elected official anymore anyways!
sdaz
(10 posts)Ellipsis
(9,292 posts)sop
(14,105 posts)"Cuck Schumer" is going to stick
Phoenix61
(18,331 posts)Im curious how you think about how protests should be addressed, considering the context of what you just said. The Trump administration just announced its pulling $400 million in funding from Columbia University, giving the reason as relentless violence, intimidation and antisemitic harassment. Im wondering what you make of that. Columbia did not do enough. I criticized them. And believe me, I believe in free speech, I believe in the right to protest, as you read in my book. I started my career protesting the Vietnam War. I say to some people, If I were your age, Id be protesting something or other. So I get that, and I love it, and its about America. But when it shades over to violence and antisemitism, the colleges had to do something, and a lot of them didnt do enough. They shrugged their shoulders, looked the other way. Columbia among them. So what did they do? They took away $400 million. Im trying to find out what they took away. Are they taking away money from cancer research, or Alzheimers? What is the $400 million? It could be hurting all students. Students who go there who have nothing to do with the protest, students who might have protested peacefully, or Jewish students who were victims of some of those protests. So I think we have to see. My worry is that this $400 million was just done in typical Trump fashion: indiscriminately, without looking at its effect.
That sounds easy. But when were talking about the right to protest, breaking the law, not breaking the law those things can be weaponized for political purposes. You can arrest political protesters, put them in prison, but theyre actually taking part in what is their constitutionally protected right. Well, if theyre just protesting, and theyre arrested, they shouldnt be arrested for protesting as long as they go by the rules. Look, I get protests in front of my house all the time, but they have to have a permit and they have to obey certain rules. There are rules. But the bottom line is we have courts, and Khalil will go to court. And I have a lot of faith that the judge will give a fair ruling. Its not the Trump administration, its an independent federal judge. [The day after we spoke, Schumer tweeted that Khalil should be punished by the legal system only for breaking criminal law, not for breaking university rules.]
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hatrack
(62,390 posts)Pro tip: "So I think we have to see" and "I'm trying to find out what they took away" and "It could be hurting all students" aren't exactly forthright condemnations.
Note: Since I can't access the article, there may well be paragraphs where he opposes this action that I wasn't able to see.
EdmondDantes_
(455 posts)The Bluesky poster is overstating things. But you could have known that by reading the parts she clipped from the transcript where Schumer says that he's only in favor of the Colombia protestor being deported if he did something illegal. That she changes that to Schumer being in favor of the guy being deported without caveat should tell you what you need to know about her honesty.
hatrack
(62,390 posts).
rollin74
(2,172 posts)I dont see anything unreasonable about what he said
edhopper
(35,902 posts)just where the money was taken from. But he is okay attacking a major University because some of the students protested Israel.
Sounds like a wishy washy weenie to me.
chowder66
(10,506 posts)Colleges that receive federal funding are obligated to follow the law. He also specifically states he's for free speech and goes further about that in the interview.
As for the $400 million, he isn't advocating for that... he sums it up (rightfully so) that it's an arbitrary number that the Republicans and their leaders pulled out of their ass. He wants to know where $400 mil would be pulled from. He wants an explanation about their bullshit number.
angrychair
(10,592 posts)That sometimes it's acceptable depending on the target. That is not acceptable. The university has an obligation to mitigate violence but it's interesting that people seem to suddenly care more about antisemitism than years of uninvestigated SAs... interesting.
chowder66
(10,506 posts)I agree about the imbalance but that was not included in the question.
The democrats have increased funding in the past to universities to help combat sexual assaults and aftercare but Trump altered or overturned some policies in his first term. Biden overturned Trump and now Trump is doing it again. I don't know about any funds being withheld as a consequence for not doing enough but that may be because the universities didn't have enough resources or guidance on how to deal with the problem. Hence the increase in funding. It's a problem that needs focus but with Trump in office that is not going to happen in any meaningful way most likely.
There will always be a surge of interest on news worthy issues but it doesn't last for long at all. It lasts longer on the hill (legally, politically) than in many peoples kitchens.
Peaceful protests are fine and encouraged but when they devolve into violence and nothing is done to mitigate the fallout then it does need to be addressed and consequences may follow; but withholding $400 million in funding is absurd. He sees that as arbitrary.
Sorry, the answer is not asking for an explanation, it's saying it's unacceptable. Period.
chowder66
(10,506 posts)GreenWave
(11,110 posts)Goes after Democrats relentlessly.
Goes after Musk.
Seems like she cannot put a banner out about Trump. (I only went two pages deep)
https://www.thehandbasket.co/archive?page=2
HereForTheParty
(885 posts)Just went on about where he took it from.
hlthe2b
(109,580 posts)I TRIED to give him the benefit of the doubt, but this is beyond it. Those screaming for Schumer to be deposed as Minority Leader have a much louder voice now.
2naSalit
(96,787 posts)
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chowder66
(10,506 posts)archive.com but it wouldn't fully load.
https://archive.ph/35bXs
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Schumer:
Columbia did not do enough. I criticized them. And believe me, I believe in free speech, I believe in the right to protest, as you read in my book. I started my career protesting the Vietnam War. I say to some people, If I were your age, Id be protesting something or other. So I get that, and I love it, and its about America. But when it shades over to violence and antisemitism, the colleges had to do something, and a lot of them didnt do enough. They shrugged their shoulders, looked the other way. Columbia among them. So what did they do? They took away $400 million. Im trying to find out what they took away. Are they taking away money from cancer research, or Alzheimers? What is the $400 million? It could be hurting all students. Students who go there who have nothing to do with the protest, students who might have protested peacefully, or Jewish students who were victims of some of those protests. So I think we have to see. My worry is that this $400 million was just done in typical Trump fashion: indiscriminately, without looking at its effect.
ibegurpard
(17,051 posts)This BSky post cherry-picks pieces of quotes and effectively misrepresents his stances.
tritsofme
(19,151 posts)chowder66
(10,506 posts)"Kabas broke the news that Trump's second administration ordered staff at the National Institutes of Health to stop travelling.[4] Days later, she broke the news that it was also was freezing federal grants, first posting on Bluesky about it.[2] Her scoops increased the amount of paid subscribers from 800 to 1,900.[5] The memo on federal grants was reversed two days after Kabas posted about it.[2] The Associated Press called it "a key moment for a growing cadre of journalists who work independently to gather and analyze news and market themselves as brands."[9]"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marisa_Kabas
With that said, her article is for the NYT and unfortunately I cannot access it.
Her take seems wholly biased and contradicts the little bit of the article I have seen (which she even posted herself under the original post).
Maybe the increase in her profile is influencing her biases?
https://archive.ph/35bXs
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Schumer:
Columbia did not do enough. I criticized them. And believe me, I believe in free speech, I believe in the right to protest, as you read in my book. I started my career protesting the Vietnam War. I say to some people, If I were your age, Id be protesting something or other. So I get that, and I love it, and its about America. But when it shades over to violence and antisemitism, the colleges had to do something, and a lot of them didnt do enough. They shrugged their shoulders, looked the other way. Columbia among them. So what did they do? They took away $400 million. Im trying to find out what they took away. Are they taking away money from cancer research, or Alzheimers? What is the $400 million? It could be hurting all students. Students who go there who have nothing to do with the protest, students who might have protested peacefully, or Jewish students who were victims of some of those protests. So I think we have to see. My worry is that this $400 million was just done in typical Trump fashion: indiscriminately, without looking at its effect.
MineralMan
(149,009 posts)Perhaps the bsky person is not correct?
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alarimer
(17,146 posts)Students are entitled to protest and I really don't care why.
"Law and Order" is just a fucking excuse for blowing up the 1st Amendment.
I really want leaders that oppose EVERYTHING Trump does.
stoned
(334 posts)What are his reasons for supporting this?
Demsrule86
(71,143 posts)And he should not be in leadership.
Ping Tung
(2,316 posts)Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
MichMan
(15,077 posts)Ping Tung
(2,316 posts)Has Columbia University been charged with hate speech?
If anyone should be tried for hate speech don should be the first in the dock.
MichMan
(15,077 posts)Your reply indicated that free speech is an absolute. It does have restrictions.
Ping Tung
(2,316 posts)Are you talking about collective punishment? Are all the students, staff, and employees to be punished by de-funding for an alleged crime that hasn't gone to trial.
The Geneva Conventions, particularly Article 33 of the Fourth Geneva Convention, explicitly prohibit collective punishment, meaning that no protected person may be punished for an offense they did not personally commit, and collective penalties, intimidation, terrorism, and reprisals are also prohibited