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Doodley

(11,825 posts)
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 12:36 PM Mar 2025

Trump is so bad, we could and should be 20 or 30 points ahead, but are polling at the lowest level for 35 years.

Driving the news: Trump's job approval rating in the new poll (47%) matches his all-time highs in NBC News polling throughout his political career (37% "strongly approve," 10% "somewhat approve&quot .

1,000 registered voters were polled March 7-11, with a margin of error of ±3.1%.
The other side: The Democratic Party reached an all-time low in popularity in NBC polling dating back to 1990.

A net 27% of those polled said they have positive views of the party (20% positive and 7% very positive).

https://www.axios.com/2025/03/16/trump-high-dems-low-new-poll

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Trump is so bad, we could and should be 20 or 30 points ahead, but are polling at the lowest level for 35 years. (Original Post) Doodley Mar 2025 OP
With Trump under water with every issue he cherishes, let's stay focused. GreenWave Mar 2025 #1
We dismissed bad polls before the election. Doodley Mar 2025 #16
He's not underwater on every issue Polybius Mar 2025 #20
Amazing isn't it. Pehaps the party should move Left to where the people are. Autumn Mar 2025 #2
+1 leftstreet Mar 2025 #11
Like Hightower says: What we need to fix it is " a new political movement of working families Autumn Mar 2025 #12
That implies that many on the left respond that they do not have a positive ompression karynnj Mar 2025 #26
Bad things about Democrats. Kingofalldems Mar 2025 #3
True thing that we need to figure out how to solve. Scrivener7 Mar 2025 #17
Time for new Democratic Party LEADERSHIP! n/t Safe as Milk Mar 2025 #4
Part of it may be that elected Democrats - nationally and locally - Buns_of_Fire Mar 2025 #5
But, there's 2 parts to those low numbers bucolic_frolic Mar 2025 #6
47% who need to be educated about what Trump is doing and how he is screwing them. Doodley Mar 2025 #19
We are floundering and directionless pinkstarburst Mar 2025 #7
Well said RJ-MacReady Mar 2025 #13
Walz. Scrivener7 Mar 2025 #18
I really like Walz pinkstarburst Mar 2025 #21
I agree with all of that. We should replace Schumer with Murphy. Quick. Scrivener7 Mar 2025 #24
You nailed it. I believe that if Kamala Harris had held a press conference every day and spelt out the damage Trump is Doodley Mar 2025 #22
Or if each Democratic Congress person put in ONE DAY for a town hall in a republican district. Scrivener7 Mar 2025 #27
Don't need a poll for that ZRB Mar 2025 #8
The point is, what has the leadership done to change that? Doodley Mar 2025 #23
Can a strong democrat move up through the ranks? flamingdem Mar 2025 #9
We need more Ted Kennedys (D-MA) and fewer "Bob" Kennedys (?-Nutcake). nt Buns_of_Fire Mar 2025 #10
I think the Democrats becoming a long-term minority party is very real. Self Esteem Mar 2025 #14
Why should we be 20 30 points ahead ? This is like demanding Afghaniatan become a democracy with even limited rights for JI7 Mar 2025 #15
Most people still think Trump is a good businessman. We are talking about very basic messaging. Doodley Mar 2025 #25
For some it is hard to accept. Passages Mar 2025 #28
Sometimes Dan Mar 2025 #29
This is NOT a horserace poll. Bleacher Creature Mar 2025 #30
There have been 2 generic ballot polls for 2026 issued this month Wiz Imp Mar 2025 #31

GreenWave

(12,515 posts)
1. With Trump under water with every issue he cherishes, let's stay focused.
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 12:41 PM
Mar 2025

Axios maybe needs click bait. How is the GOP polling with the same question? Or did they fail to ask that?

All time "high" of 47 %.

Autumn

(48,888 posts)
2. Amazing isn't it. Pehaps the party should move Left to where the people are.
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 12:42 PM
Mar 2025
"There's Nothing in the Middle of the Road but Yellow Stripes and Dead Armadillos"

"I am an agitator, and an agitator is the center post in a washing machine that gets the dirt out."
--Jim Hightower

Autumn

(48,888 posts)
12. Like Hightower says: What we need to fix it is " a new political movement of working families
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 01:17 PM
Mar 2025

and the poor to "take America back from the bankers and bosses, the big shots and bastards."

Yeah I lost my old one so I ordered another copy. Still true after all these years.

karynnj

(60,860 posts)
26. That implies that many on the left respond that they do not have a positive ompression
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 01:51 PM
Mar 2025

I wonder if the difference is that Republicans, in power or out, are prone to always approving their party or leader, while on the left, the question prompts an internal debate as to whether the party is doing what the person wants.

Now, when each day brings another loss to things we hold dear, it may be hard to answer in the positive. We expect the leaders to protect our interests and they haven't. The reality is that with the Republicans controlling all three branches and benefiting from a right wing Supreme Court, they have very little ability to fight back.

Scrivener7

(59,137 posts)
17. True thing that we need to figure out how to solve.
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 01:34 PM
Mar 2025

My guess is that it shouldn't be very hard. We'd need a PR firm, someone like Pete as a Communications director, and maybe a bot farm or two.

Buns_of_Fire

(19,087 posts)
5. Part of it may be that elected Democrats - nationally and locally -
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 12:46 PM
Mar 2025

don't seem to be inclined to stand up to the bastard. Sure, there are notable exceptions, but they're notable because they ARE exceptions.

bucolic_frolic

(54,721 posts)
6. But, there's 2 parts to those low numbers
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 12:46 PM
Mar 2025

47% MAGAts who hate us.

Democrats who are down on us because we failed to stop Trump. (As if we have the votes.)

This too shall pass.

pinkstarburst

(1,936 posts)
7. We are floundering and directionless
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 12:50 PM
Mar 2025

I'm not surprised Trump is polling well. He's a strong leader. He's a TERRIBLE leader, an evil leader, leading us in a terrible direction, but there is absolutely a segment of the population that will vote for and follow "strength."

Right now, the democratic party is weak, floundering, and leaderless. So in addition to raking in the support of his own gleeful supporters, Trump is riding high with middle of the road folks because we don't have a viable alternative.

What alternative have we put up? The election was November 5th. It's now March 16th. Our response to the horrible things he's doing is... let's wear pink and hold up paddleboards.

Are we surprised voters aren't surging to follow democrats? We have no direction. Schumer and Jeffries are weak and ineffective leaders. Half the time, they're agreeing and pushing the dems to vote with the horrible legislation Trump is putting forth, which furthers the message of "this sucks, but both sides are basically the same so it doesn't matter who I vote for, or even if I vote at all." Bad look.

We have no strong leader for 2028 like Republicans had in Trump while Biden was in office. Everyone floated as a possibility has reasons one part of the party shoots them down (people proclaiming they won't vote for a woman, for a gay man, for someone who was anti-Gaza, for this, for that) and no one is really stepping up to lead, or if they are, they're doing it in a divisive way that will never fly with voters i.e. Newsom.

I am not the least bit surprised Trump is doing so well in the polls. I think this is a reflection not entirely of how he's doing, but also of the fact that we are DOING NOTHING in response.

 

RJ-MacReady

(603 posts)
13. Well said
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 01:18 PM
Mar 2025

A lot do not seem to want to face this reality. The party is just not popular and in fact its downright toxic in some places.

pinkstarburst

(1,936 posts)
21. I really like Walz
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 01:43 PM
Mar 2025

and I'm interested to watch where more of these town halls go. I like that he and AOC and Elizabeth Warren and Bernie and Jasmine Crockett are trying to fight back. At this point, none of them has emerged as the party's leader, OR we have segments within the party who will say they are unelectable for whatever reason (POC, woman, too old, not a democrat, too socialist, too boring--I've seen all of those just in the past day.) But these are the five (plus Mayor Pete) that I am watching right now.

But I think a big part of the problem right now is we don't have a clearly defined leader, and the people in the party with the most power (Schumer, Jeffries) are rolling over and cooperating with Trump rather than fighting back. It's going to lead our voters to become more apathetic and add to the feeling of why bother and both parties are the same anyway.

Scrivener7

(59,137 posts)
24. I agree with all of that. We should replace Schumer with Murphy. Quick.
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 01:45 PM
Mar 2025

I don't like that I believe this is the reality we live in, but I believe the reality we live in is that we will get more votes with a middle aged white protestant male. I hate it, but I think it's true. So Walz works for me.

And really, who doesn't like him?

Doodley

(11,825 posts)
22. You nailed it. I believe that if Kamala Harris had held a press conference every day and spelt out the damage Trump is
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 01:44 PM
Mar 2025

doing each day, we would be 20 points ahead. I also believe that If just 30 Democratic lawmakers put the same effort in as Bernie Sanders, taking the message to the people, we would be 20 points ahead.

Scrivener7

(59,137 posts)
27. Or if each Democratic Congress person put in ONE DAY for a town hall in a republican district.
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 01:53 PM
Mar 2025

flamingdem

(40,838 posts)
9. Can a strong democrat move up through the ranks?
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 12:54 PM
Mar 2025

Do we even have a person with the "it" factor?

No one seems to be able to take the reigns. Or are they waiting?

Who do you consider strong? And also willing to take the job?

And most of all electable?

 

Self Esteem

(2,248 posts)
14. I think the Democrats becoming a long-term minority party is very real.
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 01:23 PM
Mar 2025

And people just assume they'll be fine because Trump will be so awful that the voters have no other choice.

That's wrong. It's the same thinking that lost them the 2016 and 2024 elections.

Democrats are losing the support of many voters who do not like Trump at all.

In fact, it would not shock me if a viable third party came out of the left to challenge the Democrats.

JI7

(93,407 posts)
15. Why should we be 20 30 points ahead ? This is like demanding Afghaniatan become a democracy with even limited rights for
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 01:31 PM
Mar 2025

We need ro recognize where we are culturally. And we aren't like Western Europe or Canada. In those places both Hillary Clinton and Kamala Harris would easily have won against Trump. Even without tryng much.

I saw comments from many Canadians that they were not supporters of Trudeau but are proud of him standing against Trump.

This is opposite of MAGA where they want Russia to take over the US more than someone like Harris be President.

The country is full of bigots and other ignorants.

Doodley

(11,825 posts)
25. Most people still think Trump is a good businessman. We are talking about very basic messaging.
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 01:49 PM
Mar 2025

Passages

(3,986 posts)
28. For some it is hard to accept.
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 01:59 PM
Mar 2025
February 19, 2025
Majority Say System Of Checks & Balances Not Working Well, Quinnipiac University National Poll Finds; Congressional Job Approval: Democrats Hit All-Time Low, Republicans Hit Record High

https://poll.qu.edu/poll-release?releaseid=3919


Now, given this reality, House Democrats are spending three days in Leesburg, Virginia, for their annual retreat to plan their path forward, and they invited James Carville. The guy that recently said, play dead as a strategy.

Dan

(5,052 posts)
29. Sometimes
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 02:03 PM
Mar 2025

Sometimes I think that what might happen is

The forming of a radically different Democratic Party - one that in some ways is as hateful, mean, vindictive as the GOP. I think that eventually we will have a party that will fight back in ways that are just (if not more so) as nasty as the GOP. Maybe, America has only two parties in the future - with such a divide that realistically there is no center anymore. Maybe, the only thing that will stop the cold civil war from becoming a hot civil war is winner takes all political outcome.

Bleacher Creature

(11,504 posts)
30. This is NOT a horserace poll.
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 02:12 PM
Mar 2025

If 27% of people disapprove of the Democratic Party, it doest't mean that 73% support Trump and the Republicans.

As others in this thread have noted, the disapprovals consist of both Trump supporters AND Democrats who are pissed at their party for not fighting back hard enough, which includes most of us here. Once we figure this out - and I truly believe we will - those numbers will change dramatically.

Wiz Imp

(9,567 posts)
31. There have been 2 generic ballot polls for 2026 issued this month
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 02:24 PM
Mar 2025

Both show Democrats ahead. They are close, but dissatisfaction with the Democratic party in general doesn't mean they can't/won't beat the Republicans in head-to-head elections.

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