I sense Schumers choice to support the CR was correct...

[FarPoint]

The best choice of the crummy lot of options to vote for...keeping government open keeps up the momentum of blocking the trauma by the Usher of Destruction.

I'm thinking that all the Schumer negativity is here and in the media has the power of the MAGA behind it.... they are pisst so they try to break us up and cause infighting.

[hlthe2b]

1. IF (if) it is TRUE that Schumer supported Trump's denial of $400 million to Columbia--as well as

the deportation of a valid-green card-holding protestor-- as has been reported, I'm inclined to change my mind. Benefit-of-the-doubt is not limitless.

[FarPoint]

15. Was that issue in the CR?

I don't recall this... sorry.

[hlthe2b]

21. His stance since Trump took those actions--not to support Columbia or other universities--including those

in his own state and not to support the law regarding illegal deportation of a legal immigrant because of his 1st Amendment-protected viewpoints with which Trump admin/Schumer disagrees. I was no proponent of those protests, but I AM in terms of protecting the Constitution. Like I said this is being reported by some valid sources, but I still want it fully confirmed--and if so, I can not abide by Schumer's actions/stances.

[FarPoint]

23. The way I see it....

we the people are so far underwater and barely treading water to survive at this point.... We are currently limited to pick our battles that we can control or win.... Lots of evil is out there and we will be taking hits.... Said hits should motivate the folks not paying attention to wake up...hopefully.

[XanaDUer2]

2. He had bad choices

Nt

[CivicGrief]

3. No, you and he are wrong.

All the vote for cloture did was legitimize the right-wing power grab. Willfully ceding the legislative powers of Congress is not a good look, and it is not good for democracy and we the people.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

9. 1000% right... you speak for me!! Thank you.

[uponit7771]

12. EXACTLY!!! Now MAGA can say the decision was bipartisan!!!

[CrispyQ]

28. Getting those powers back will be a battle. The next bill will be worse. -nt

[Irish_Dem]

4. Calling people MAGAs who do not agree with you is a poor strategy.

[Emile]

18. +1

[FarPoint]

26. I use it as a generalized group for conversation simplicity.

It's all good.

[Terry_M]

30. +1

I guess that I along with 250+ elected democrats in congress and the senate that did not vote with Schumer are MAGAs now

I feel the same I felt last week about my politics but I guess I crossed over at some point

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

11. Yeah riiigght.

[Nanjeanne]

14. How dare you say that? As a Jew I'm appalled. I don't alert but this sure warrants it.

[stopdiggin]

17. not reading THAT into this situation at ALL

kinda weird

[Yavin4]

19. What a cheap shot.

We can do better than that. Much better.

[Scrivener7]

20. That's not what that pain is, dear. Are you sitting on something sharp, perhaps?

[Emile]

25. You really should self delete your divisive post.

[Voltaire2]

27. right. You win the prize!

The search for the most incoherent accusation regarding the CR debacle is over.

[Bettie]

32. So, any disagreement with Schumer's actions

is automatically antisemitism?

So, does that mean if you disagree with Sanders you are antisemite as well, or is this a special dispensation for Schumer only?

Just trying to be clear on the "rules".

[William769]

34. You are incorrect and have done a disservice with that comment.

[notinkansas]

35. Not!!

[Deep State Witch]

6. It Was The Kobayashi Maru Test

Basically a no-win scenario. Muskrat wanted them to shut down the government so that he could make even more cuts.

[CivicGrief]

7. Give me a fucking break!

[CivicGrief]

8. Sorry, this is a reply to tritofme

[Voltaire2]

29. They were and are shutting the government down. NT.

[CrispyQ]

31. Actually it wasn't. The repubs were the ones who changed the rules & without any dem input, either.

Trump's never going to give that power back. Never.

And I doubt Schumer's ever going to get house democrats trust back either, after that stunt. He just sent a message that he's okay with repubs putting bills up for vote that dems had no say in. Apparently Fetterman posted that he would never vote to shut the government down & AOC responded, if they put a national abortion ban into the bill what then? Cuz that's kind of what happened here with Trump's power grab.

[angrychair]

36. Keep hearing this

And it was at the heart of Schumer's logic but passing that CR has now locked in the cuts they've already made and made it legit with bipartisan congressional approval of the CR.
It also gave up all congressional authority on trade policy.
That CR was our last opportunity to control the budget. From this point forward we have zero control. They will bundle all the changes TSF wants into a reconciliation bill and pass it on a simple majority and there is nothing we can do to stop it. Those 10 people choose to concede all Senate Democrats power to a dictator.

Worse is that over the next several months as they pass the new parts of the budget out of committees, that Democrats cannot stop it but people won't understand that and they will get blamed for it too.

[FarPoint]

44. Exactly......

We will be facing more Kobayashi Maru tests this year as well....

[uponit7771]

10. We **HAD** political leverage where there was no procedural leverage. Now MAGA can claim material support from dems

... if shit goes sideways when we had the cover to put 100% of this on MAGA

[stopdiggin]

16. whichever side your 'personal' opinion falls here

(and there can be legitimate disagreement on this and many others)
There is no getting around this was a stereotypical 'rock and a hard place' situation .....
Leaving the defamation and absolute derogation levied out in the aftermath ... Out of place and WAY over the top.

And perhaps signatory of our times.
How amusing to hearken back to the times that we confidently predicted that the the Republican party would tear itself apart ...

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[Mountainguy]

22. No

"keeping government open keeps up the momentum of blocking the trauma by the Usher of Destruction."

No, it doesn't. The courts would have decided what of their own operations would have kept open, not Trump. Cases and ruling could have continued.

Trump would have taken most of the blame and his popularity would have continued to erode.



Besides that, you've only kicked the can down the road 6 months. Republicans will just pack more garbage into the bills expecting that Democrats are too afraid to shut things down, especially when that fight will be in the lead up to the holidays and the start of an election year. It would have been better to have the inevitable fight now.

[Bettie]

33. They do know now

for certain that the Senate will always buckle under any pressure whatsoever.

[Demsrule86]

38. I am sorry but I believe what we have here is betrayal...Schumer and all other need

to be primaried. Of course we must vote for Democrats in a General but a primary is a different situation. I would like to see a new Majority leader in the Senate when we take back power.

[Voltaire2]

24. Your sense is non. nt.

[Demsrule86]

37. No it was not right...and nor is his statement about Columbia.

The GOP would likely have caved with a continuing resolution without spending cuts and which expand Musk's powers.

[Wounded Bear]

39. One thing I know for sure: If the gov't was shut down, DOGE would not be...nt

[LetMyPeopleVote]

40. If there was a shutdown, Musk and Doge would have been free to put all of their cuts in

A shutdown would have given Musk and DOGE free reign to close agencies/departments and implement all of their terminations

[betsuni]

41. K&R

[Raine]

42. Agree ... nt

.

[Emile]

43. So this vote will stop the Trump destruction.

LOL