Rejecting The Horrible CR Would Have Had Horrible Consequences For Someone

[gab13by13]

“Schumer begins a book tour this week.

Mon 3/17 7pm Central Library, Baltimore

Wed 3/19 Politics & Prose, DC

7pm Thursday 3/20 at the Weizman, DC

Sunday 3/23 · 3pm Moss Theatre Santa Monica, CA

Mon 4/21 MJCCA Atlanta 7:30PM”

Instead of working on Jeffries 30 day CR.
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2025/3/14/2310308/-Schumer-s-Book-Tour

[FBaggins]

1. They had no option of rejecting the CR

“Rejecting” takes a majority vote.

All they could do was delay and then live with the consequences of that delay.

Jeffries 30-day CR option died when republicans were able to hold all but one member in lockstep.

[gab13by13]

2. I do not understand your post

Senate Democrats could have killed the god awful CR that is unconstitutional.

With no CR Speaker Jeffries was working on a temporary 30 day CR to give time to negotiate a longer CR that didn't murder working class Americans.

[EdmondDantes_]

3. The option was between the CR and a government shutdown

What's the explanation for why Republicans in the House would have taken up the CR Jeffries proposed instead of taking the shutdown?

[Voltaire2]

4. The government shutdown has been in progress

since the start of the dictatorship.

[usonian]

7. When I am clearing some brush on my property, I think:

If I cut this and burn it now (in the allowed burn season here), then it won't be around for a wildfire where it just spreads the fire to the surrounding flora and homes. The emperor is burning down Rome (give or take the historical accuracy). In fact even if he didn't, it's the fact that people are standing by and not putting out the flames.

[LSparkle]

8. Agreed -- those 10 voted to allow the "custom" shutdown to continue

And made Dems LOOK powerless ... when perception of resistance was the only leverage we had left.

[gab13by13]

9. The notion going around that Trump wanted a shutdown was not true at all.

Trump wanted exactly what he got. Musk has been given more power now and he can destroy our country given 6 months of free rein from Congress.

I know many good people who work and are on Medicaid and they will be first to the chopping block. My SS and Medicare will be next.

At least Chuck now has time to do his book tour. I'm sure that the voters won't notice that.

[EdmondDantes_]

11. That doesn't answer the question

By what method was there going to be the proposed 30 day clean CR? The question posed was why didn't Schumer support that as if those were the two options. It's not a valid counterfactual.

[Voltaire2]

16. The point was to return it to the house.

And make it clear that only a clean CR would get through.

[karynnj]

23. That would work if the House Republicans preferred the CR to a shutdown

If we were in their position, our budget filibustered, we would take a CR and work with Senate Republicans to find what would pass.

The Republicans have often shut down the government in the past. They would again. I think they see themselves as having almost all the cards.

Even if they agree to a 30 day CR, that leads to the same battle in a month. Will Democrats be in a better position? Sadly, the Republicans might be if as expected the 2 FL seats go Republican.

[Voltaire2]

29. And again: they are permanently shutting down many parts of the government.

The CR that just passed enabled them to do more of that. There was no downside to our party standing up against the fascist coup.

[FBaggins]

32. Of course there was a downside

There's a difference between republicans shutting down parts of the government that they target - and democrats shutting down larger parts of the government (that to a certain extent republicans still get to target).

[FBaggins]

28. There was no option of returning it to the House

Republicans were perfectly happy with a shutdown that they could pin on senate democrats. Losing the filibuster vote would not send anything to the House... it would just lead to another senate vote a few days later... and then another... and then another. All while playing nightly videos of democrat after democrat saying that the filibuster is racist and should be abolished.

If we somehow held strong (when probably half of senate democrats knew this had to pass) - they could just nuke the filibuster for budget shutdowns.

[brush]

24. The dates of his upcoming book tour maybe the reason he didn't stop the horrid CR's passage.

I hate to think it, but looks like a scheduling conflict may be the reason.

New Dem Senate Majority Leader needed.

[gab13by13]

5. The choice was between fighting

and giving Krasnov and Musk an unlimited slush fund.

Under a shutdown the OMB Director decides what is essential, under the CR the power was given to Musk to decide what is essential.

Passing that CR was exactly what Trump wanted and he is declaring it a mandate. The CR transferred the power of the purse from Congress to Musk.

When are Democrats supposed to take a stand? What will our country look like 6 months from now now that Musk has been given more power?

[EdmondDantes_]

14. Except Musk was already doing that.

You aren't looking for a discussion just fawning agreement. Asking again, how does voting against the CR get to the 30 day CR? You state opinions as facts and then expect people to start from those assumptions without providing evidence to support them.

[gab13by13]

18. Hakeem Jeffries expected the CR to be killed

so he and members of the House were preparing a temporary 30 day CR to allow negotiations for a longer CR.

How do you get that is just my opinion?

Schumer kneecapped Jeffries.

Would House Magats have agreed to Jeffries 30 day CR? Probably not, but the fight would have begun. Now Democrats are in a much worse position to fight.

[FBaggins]

17. You do realize "OMB director decides" is no different, right?

That’s Trump/Musk

And no… the choice was between losing small now or losing after a damaging shutdown that would be blamed on us..: possibly after republicans nuke the filibuster for shutdowns.

[gab13by13]

19. Sorry but making it political was the wrong choice

There are no guarantees that there will be future elections. The time was now to fight.

Losing small? How so? What is Schumer's plan to stop Musk now that he gave him more power?

If you would like to talk about the optics, how is it going to look for Democrats with Schumer going on a book tour right after he hands over the purse strings to Musk?

[FBaggins]

25. Schumer didn't "hand the purse strings over to Musk"

The voters did.

There is no "plan to stop Musk" - there is only "how much can we limit the damage?"

There is no filibustering a reconciliation bill - and they didn't have to wait for September for that (they also could have killed the filibuster for CRs if they wanted to). The only way to actually beat their budget is to peal off a handful of republicans - almost certainly in the House.

For the CR - once that effort failed in the House - it was only a question of whether democrats would be damaged in the eyes of their base on the left - or with the rest of the country.

They chose correctly. The alternative where we actually win something here existed only in fantasy.

[LiberalArkie]

13. In my belief, a shutdown might have prevented more of the agencies torn up since people would not be present

to give them the passwords and logins to the systems.

What if, the congress had been in session on Jan 6th. Would it have made any difference with the congressmen there vs not?

[sop]

6. Chuck's campaign donors:

https://www.followthemoney.org/entity-details?eid=19890086

[Voltaire2]

10. One way to play poker is to always fold.

You get to play all night at a minimal cost, hang out with your pals, and never win.

[gab13by13]

12. Except the ante is a lot more costly for Congress.

[Voltaire2]

15. The ante is zero.

There is no cost for doing nothing. Most senate seats aren’t competitive, either in the general election or in primaries (unless there is an open seat.)

[gab13by13]

21. To me the ante isn't political

it's the 2 trillion dollars in spending cuts that Musk is ready to rake in.

[lark]

20. Aproving the CR is total abdication and will help enable the plutocracy that is forming.

It shows spinlessness and cowardice on the part of the 10.

[gab13by13]

31. They gave Krasnov what he wanted and got absolutely nothing in return

How in the world can anyone believe that was the best option?

If we have a shutdown the OMB decides what agencies are critical, doing the CR gave Must the power to determine which agencies are critical.

My opinion means absolutely nothing but Congressional Democrats voted overwhelmingly No on the CR. Hakeem Jeffries got kneecapped.

[Hotler]

22. They had nine years to plan for this scenario. nt

[dlk]

26. If the courts ran out of federal funds

Then what?

[yardwork]

27. This is a little weird.

I think Schumer and other Democratic leaders should step back and give younger, more social media savvy Democrats more power, but I don't agree with chasing Chuck Schumer around.

If you want to chase people around, focus on Trump, Musk, Vance and Republican politicians. They're the ones doing all these horrible things.

[gab13by13]

30. Update on the Book tour

Glad to see that Schumer agrees with me on something. He is postponing his book signings that were scheduled for this week.

Guessing he expected a little blow back.

[AZJonnie]

33. The tour would've been a complete shitshow of blowback everywhere he went, and he knows it

He should've cancelled it November 6th, 2024.