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LuckyCharms

(22,750 posts) Mon Mar 17, 2025, 10:33 AM Mar 2025

As predicted, he will ignore court orders.

Why?

Because there will be no judicial enforcement, and every action he takes will be interpreted to be an "official act" and therefore immune to prosecution.

There will be no enforcement.

He "owns" the enforcers.

Without enforcement, laws for him may as well not exist.

No enforcement? Then, no laws (for Trump).

I believe this is the bottom line of this whole mess.

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As predicted, he will ignore court orders. (Original Post) LuckyCharms Mar 2025 OP

If the Judiciary doesn't even try to fight back C_U_L8R Mar 2025 #1

That's not the problem. The problem is that courts' enforcement powers are limited Ocelot II Mar 2025 #2

At least they ought to make the contempt judgements, no? C_U_L8R Mar 2025 #5

Could be his Waterloo..... Lovie777 Mar 2025 #3

Only if he's stopped. Boomerproud Mar 2025 #12

blue states RJ-MacReady Mar 2025 #4

California won't be one of them, just look at our Governor DSandra Mar 2025 #8

The plane's were already in the air when the court order happened Polybius Mar 2025 #6

Trump will disobey even SC orders. Irish_Dem Mar 2025 #7

Yes, it is obvious the courts have no enforcement power over Krasnov. GoodRaisin Mar 2025 #9

Elon said Hitler killed nobody... lame54 Mar 2025 #10

Trump & Bondi now straight-up defying the court, LetMyPeopleVote Mar 2025 #11

You nailed it. republianmushroom Mar 2025 #13

C_U_L8R

(49,461 posts)

1. If the Judiciary doesn't even try to fight back

Reply to LuckyCharms (Original post)

Mon Mar 17, 2025, 10:37 AM

Mar 2025

There'll be no more Judiciary. Stop worrying that he'll impeach you and start laying down the law.

Ocelot II

(130,955 posts)

2. That's not the problem. The problem is that courts' enforcement powers are limited

Reply to C_U_L8R (Reply #1)

Mon Mar 17, 2025, 10:42 AM

Mar 2025

to finding parties in contempt or ordering fines. If a federal court orders a defiant party to come into court on a contempt charge and that order is to be carried out by federal marshals who work for Pam Bondi's DoJ, do you think the marshals will do it if their boss tells them to stand down?

C_U_L8R

(49,461 posts)

5. At least they ought to make the contempt judgements, no?

Reply to Ocelot II (Reply #2)

Mon Mar 17, 2025, 10:49 AM

Mar 2025

Lovie777

(23,321 posts)

3. Could be his Waterloo.....

Reply to LuckyCharms (Original post)

Mon Mar 17, 2025, 10:44 AM

Mar 2025

Boomerproud

(9,333 posts)

12. Only if he's stopped.

Reply to Lovie777 (Reply #3)

Mon Mar 17, 2025, 05:26 PM

Mar 2025

I don't think this can go on much longer without severe consequences.

RJ-MacReady

(603 posts)

4. blue states

Reply to LuckyCharms (Original post)

Mon Mar 17, 2025, 10:47 AM

Mar 2025

Then need to follow in kind and begin ignoring all court orders they disagree with.

DSandra

(1,725 posts)

8. California won't be one of them, just look at our Governor

Reply to RJ-MacReady (Reply #4)

Mon Mar 17, 2025, 02:06 PM

Mar 2025

Polybius

(22,021 posts)

6. The plane's were already in the air when the court order happened

Reply to LuckyCharms (Original post)

Mon Mar 17, 2025, 12:03 PM

Mar 2025

So I'm sure he can come up with some BS excuse. Now, if he ignores it again, then we have a problem.

Irish_Dem

(81,964 posts)

7. Trump will disobey even SC orders.

Reply to LuckyCharms (Original post)

Mon Mar 17, 2025, 01:33 PM

Mar 2025

And dare them to do anything.

GoodRaisin

(10,990 posts)

9. Yes, it is obvious the courts have no enforcement power over Krasnov.

Reply to LuckyCharms (Original post)

Mon Mar 17, 2025, 04:07 PM

Mar 2025

SCOTUS has freed him to be a dictator. We have no protection from this evil regime. We will see him violate order after order after order. They will simply say “the judge issued an illegal order we don’t have to obey.”