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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI see a scenario where Trump defies the law and says he has immunity for his actions?
The Supreme Court granted him the power and opportunity to do what he pleases.
He will continue his evil deeds in a manner in which he doesnt care.
He is a person who has no moral sympathy for the law or the constitution in any form.
The only way to stop him is by him dying or being taken out. But there lies the problem? He wont be held accountable for his crimes against humanity.
The perils of this all isnt how to deal with him rather he should have been dealt with when we had the chance. But people were are afraid of his antics and what he could do to punish us.
I will never forgive the GOBers or his supporters for this. Yet, Trump will pay them back by stripping them of their rights and he will not care, because he just used them to gain power over them too.
In the end, his supporters will suffer and they wont understand why he turned on them when he said he would have their backs.
DemMedic
(595 posts)Lets see where the Supremes go from there.
Irish_Dem
(81,359 posts)The SC told him he does not have to follow the law or court orders.
no_hypocrisy
(54,919 posts)He's only immune only so far as the alleged illegal act was performed as duties of The President.
He's liable for prosecution if he acted illegally for personal reasons, business reasons, etc.
imanamerican63
(16,197 posts)Wuddles440
(2,094 posts)but it's up to the MAGA hacks on SCOTUS to determine what constitutes an "official act" and that gives them a lot of personal discretion. Also, even if it was determined that he engaged in such an illegal action, what judiciary is going to initiate the prosecution, let alone, attempt to enforce any compliance? Certainly not at the Federal level.
no_hypocrisy
(54,919 posts)I wonder if TSF has used up his favors on most of the USSC. They have him Dobbs. They have him immunity for the most part. And he's attacking the Judiciary wholesale. They still have relevance and leverage if they choose to use it.
no_hypocrisy
(54,919 posts)Eliot Rosewater
(34,285 posts)And theyre gonna take our Social Security and Medicare and theyre gonna do it in the next few months.
Walleye
(44,862 posts)Walleye
(44,862 posts)They dont think of themselves as Americans. I think thats the problem.
Orrex
(67,117 posts)For months, when DUers suggested that Biden do something, ANYTHING to flex this power for the good of the nation, a throng of scolding cheerleaders would swoop in to belittle and insult those who made the suggestion, insisting that the president certainly didn't have such power.
Good thing the president doesn't have that power, or else Trump would be doing exactly what he's been doing for the past two months.
harumph
(3,287 posts)And a supreme court has your back - and the msm has your back.
Simeon Salus
(1,638 posts)Promises kept.
Martin Eden
(15,636 posts)If the courts become a serious obstacle he will ignore them or destroy those who dare defy him.
What mechanism can enforce court decisions?
The so-called "Justice" Dept and the FBI are fast becoming his personal tools of vengeance, and the head of our military is his eager servant.
Fascism is upon us.
With few exceptions, congressional Republicans are in lockstep with this dictator.
Biophilic
(6,554 posts)Yes, I agree, the government workers and others following his and other other government officials are not likely to see any negative actions, but it seems the upper government heads of departments might. Yes, I realize right now it looks like a slim hope, but its possible. They are all breaking the law and are not immune.
imanamerican63
(16,197 posts)rubbersole
(11,225 posts)..right after Hell freezes over.
Corporate media won't cover this coup until their stock prices tank, if then.
Eliot Rosewater
(34,285 posts)Anyone who does anything under the direction of the Nazis under the direction of Trump or Maga or musk will be fine.
Anything
Biophilic
(6,554 posts)Will those people escape without justice. They shouldn't. The supporters are as complicit as trump. It's one of the thoughts that keep me from losing it altogether. Perhaps I won't live to see it, but I can hope for justice eventually.
Eliot Rosewater
(34,285 posts)Mr.WeRP
(1,098 posts)54% of the American population reads at barely the 6th grade level. They will hungrily eat up shit sandwiches served by Trump and say they are the best thing theyve ever eaten because Trump says they are. Yes, they will suffer, but they will follow Trump in blaming Biden and the libs.
We live in the fictional story of Idiocracy.
Eliot Rosewater
(34,285 posts)Their unemployment insurance, everything, they will blame Democrats and it will completely just end the whole thing is gonna just end.
And the fascists will control the military which will be used against us if we react.
Ms. Toad
(38,655 posts)It gave him a get out of jail free card.
To the extent he has more power now, it is because Congress confirmed his appointments to organizations knowing full well that they would do Trump's bidding, rather than follow the law, and because Congress has ceded (with the help of a handful of Democrats) the right to end the "emergencies" he has declared.
He has lost virtually every court case so far - but enforcing the rule of law requires heads of agencies that follow the law, rather than Trump, and Marshalls willing to enforce content orders.
Eliot Rosewater
(34,285 posts)Like the FBI and department of justice is now or will be as it is cleaned out, this is really really really bad.
Ms. Toad
(38,655 posts)My point is that it isn't the Supreme Court that granted him power. All they gave him was a get out of jail free card. If the rest of the system was doing its job, it would be annoying that he could not be criminally prosecuted - but merely annoying.
The rest of what is going in is a power grab that the courts are doing their best to stop - but they can't do it alone. His power comes from the legislative branch ceding power both in confirming people they knew would not provide independent checks on Trump - AND - in passing the CR which ceded their power to terminate his "emergency" declarations.