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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhat do you rely on for home security?
I realize people may use more than one of the choices but I'm just trying to get an idea of how guns fit in to the way people think about their own safety.
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Locks on doors and security on external property | |
9 (16%) |
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Home Security System | |
7 (12%) |
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One or more dogs or other animals | |
15 (26%) |
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Telephone to call 911 | |
0 (0%) |
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Kitchen knife and a baseball bat | |
0 (0%) |
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Gun and the training to use it | |
13 (23%) |
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I live in a very secure building | |
1 (2%) |
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I live in a remote area | |
3 (5%) |
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I sleep with a weapon | |
0 (0%) |
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OTHER | |
9 (16%) |
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Recursion
(56,582 posts)Recursion
(56,582 posts)But the noise of a dog might deter somebody, at least I hope.
Liberal_in_LA
(44,397 posts)gkhouston
(21,642 posts)catbyte
(34,414 posts)How much does she eat, anyway? I have puddy tats who are actually quite good watch cats unless something that doesn't exist freaks them out. That drives me berserk, sigh.
:spittake:
reverend_tim
(105 posts)But too big for the condo and I need a low maintenance pet.
sarisataka
(18,705 posts)I've heard they are good with kids
Recursion
(56,582 posts)But, yeah, very sweet dogs. At least this one is.
XemaSab
(60,212 posts)for over 200 lbs of "Don't GO there."
4_TN_TITANS
(2,977 posts)gollygee
(22,336 posts)That's all I've got.
El Supremo
(20,365 posts)Me too.
LP2K12
(885 posts)Our beagle and two kittens would protect us, but they are lovers.
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RichGirl
(4,119 posts)It has worked for me everywhere I've lived...small town, country, city.
There was an X Files episode of a neighbborhood where everyone who had security had there house broken into and the houses that didn' have it, weren't bothered. Conclusion: Fear attracts fearful situations.
AlexSatan
(535 posts)You do realize that is also the show that had a secret conspiracy about aliens, right?
struggle4progress
(118,319 posts)Hey, gotta run with what works
AnotherMcIntosh
(11,064 posts)struggle4progress
(118,319 posts)Skittles
(153,170 posts)YES INDEED
struggle4progress
(118,319 posts)baldguy
(36,649 posts)She's got a big yellow streak, and tends to be afraid of cats & submissive to other, smaller dogs - but when she growls she sounds mean. At least before she runs away & hides in her bed.
She's just a big baby.
undeterred
(34,658 posts)Remember, dogs protect people. They don't protect property. But given the choice between a house or apartment with a noisy dog and one without one, a burglar will most often pick the one without the dog.
Autumn
(45,120 posts)My dog will tear you up if you bother me. And if I'm in bed asleep don't even think of walking in there, even if he knows you.
Cattledog
(5,917 posts)Myrina
(12,296 posts)ACD's are the best! They'd probably outwit/out-negotiate anyone who tried to break in!
(I have 1 very old ACD and 2 ugly, mean-looking mutt mixes who are his bodyguards)
RetroGamer1971
(177 posts)We have a recurve. compound, and two pocket crossbows. These are NOT toys! One of these can be easily traded out with broadhead arrow tips. We are an archery family and feel much more comfortable protecting our home with weapons we are expert in using.
kydo
(2,679 posts)sometimes I think of not cleaning the litter boxes and putting it by the doors as a form of home security. Probably not a good idea if I ever want people to come over.
But I do have a lab/mastiff awesome dog. He would probably be easily bribed with food but at least not before alerting me someone was here. The way I figure it while the un-sub is feeding my dog I call 911.
I also have one of those signs thats says I have home security and I lock my doors. No guns. I got steak knives and yard tools. Sadly I smoke so running will only get me so far but I did take judo once in college. I know karate and six other Japanese words?
But you know what, I am not worried cause I am poor and I ain't got nothing worth stealing in the first place.
undeterred
(34,658 posts)hey, I thought that was just a tv word
I am one of those people that loves tv. I love just having it on. Same with the radio outside. Come to think of it that might in its self be a security measure. Cool now I can justify wacthing tv. I'm protecting my house when I watch criminal minds marathons on a&e.
You are probably right though un-sub is probably a tv word. I just repeat things I hear on tv.
undeterred
(34,658 posts)Its a real forensic word. But the only place I've ever heard it was on Criminal Minds
NMDemDist2
(49,313 posts)who's 6' 220#, a black belt and ex-military trained MP
he refuses to have a gun in the house.
riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)I will say if I'm alone in the house for the night, I also lock the doors.
We also refuse to have guns.
NMDemDist2
(49,313 posts)but i feel safe here, he used to work nights for several years, never bothered me
loli phabay
(5,580 posts)Pretty everyone in the mountains here has guns and hunts.
NMDemDist2
(49,313 posts)we just don't have guns LOL
loli phabay
(5,580 posts)To food to getting rid of pests to home defence.
footinmouth
(747 posts)But she's got a good bark on her and sounds pretty scary.
SoCalDem
(103,856 posts)tjwash
(8,219 posts)Union Scribe
(7,099 posts)That sounds more foolhardy than brave.
Egalitarian Thug
(12,448 posts)Why do you hate America?
eShirl
(18,495 posts)The postmaster sorts the mail by name, not by PO Box number.
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NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)and good deadbolts. Oh and a living room covered in toddler's toys that would trip up a "bad guy" a la Home Alone. Plus a shitty truck in the driveway that screams "we don't have anything worth taking".
underpants
(182,848 posts)That being said we did have a kid bang on our door in 2007 who wanted to come in. I did the cop thing and said NO and he waited on the porch until the actual cop (1 mind you) showed up.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,782 posts)My house was burglarized about 12 years ago, which freaked me out quite a bit. After that I kept a butcher knife and a baseball bat next to the bed, then a friend gave me a shotgun, which I put in my closet. I've never fired it and I have no ammunition for it; guns make me nervous. Eventually I got a home security system and put the knife and the bat away. The gun is still in the closet.
If there are strange noises outside the cats on the bed wake up and growl. They are my early warning system.
loli phabay
(5,580 posts)Probuably never in the winter.
hunter
(38,322 posts)Sometimes I find half-digested guns in his poop.
UtahLib
(3,179 posts)Enrique
(27,461 posts)Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)mean tempered co-owner, me with a worse temper, baseball bat. That being said if someone with a gun breaks in we are toast. It would be over before the cops arrived. Oh yeah my dog would bark up a storm then hide under her bed.
HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)and since I lost my last friend...I don't make enemies,
Isn't it the friends that become enemies that make life really dangerous?
Chorophyll
(5,179 posts)I'm not rich, but I have some stuff, I guess. I live in a northern suburb of New York City. Yep, stuff happens around here sometimes.
But to be honest? I don't worry that much. And I have never and will never own a gun.
ETA: Life is too short to be paranoid.
Superbot
(59 posts)There were 3 choices I currently use.
Marinedem
(373 posts)I have a series of safeguards.
A gun is on the list.
former-republican
(2,163 posts)Glitterati
(3,182 posts)My neighbors watch out for each other.
I can pick up the phone and have several at my door in an instant.
KNOW YOUR NEIGHBORS - they are your lookout.
undeterred
(34,658 posts)And it is an especially good idea in urban areas. Sadly many times people don't know their neighbors.
TorchTheWitch
(11,065 posts)Where I live it's some of the neighbors I have to worry about.
Blue_In_AK
(46,436 posts)I usually lock the doors at night, but if I forget it's nothing to panic about. We live in the back of a front to back duplex and it's not readily apparent that we're even back here. Our little dog is very responsive to people coming to the door, but she's a shih-tzu, not really much of an attack dog.
rzemanfl
(29,565 posts)is kept in a container in the garage. Besides that, the ammo is trap loads I reloaded myself.
rrneck
(17,671 posts)Matariki
(18,775 posts)PD Turk
(1,289 posts)Motion sensing lights outside, then alarm, then dogs and finally a shotgun. They'll only get shot if they continue past the first 3...
NoPasaran
(17,291 posts)Good enough for the Great White Whale, good enough for riffraff.
Control-Z
(15,682 posts)Well, most of the time.
Raine
(30,540 posts)the house. I live in an affluent area, it's not crime ridden but still things happen, better to be safe than sorry.
neverforget
(9,436 posts)We had our condo for sale and it had a realtor lock on it. The burglar attempted to open the realtor lock and that's when my dog barked. I then heard the burglar run down the stairs and out the driveway. I didn't see him but I saw his tracks in the snow. I called the cops and when they arrived, they said that the trend has been to try and get into homes for sale by breaking into the realtor lock.
Stinky The Clown
(67,816 posts)A Big Fucking Dog
A Pretty Big Fucking Dog
A Little Shit That Thinks She's a Big Fucking Dog.
cliffordu
(30,994 posts)hopemountain
(3,919 posts)potent bear spray, a very ugly "rage" face & a serious potty mouth.
politicat
(9,808 posts)Yes, we lock the doors, but nothing we own is worth a life. If somebody wants our TV or laptops, they're backed up, strongly encrypted, and we have insurance. It's just stuff.
We live in a working class neighborhood in a good county. We know our neighbors, they know us. If somebody's looking for stuff to fence, our neighborhood is not the obvious target.
We're more likely to be struck by lightning three times in a row than to have a stranger break in and cause us harm. (I keep an eye on local crime stats.) I'll keep playing those odds.
Codeine
(25,586 posts)That and a deadbolt is all the security I need.
Well, it helps that I don't have shit worth stealing. Who's going to break down a door or bust a window for a big stack of boardgames and some Ikea furniture?
cliffordu
(30,994 posts)depressed.
Sorry. couldn't help it.
For the win, sir.
slackmaster
(60,567 posts)...a Louisville Slugger.
catbyte
(34,414 posts)stop. The horrified stare. The creeping around on their bellies. Then you find out it is a criminal spider, errant dead leaf, or suspicious neighborhood tomcat. Or nothing at all, LOL.
slackmaster
(60,567 posts)Things I can't see or hear.
kestrel91316
(51,666 posts)and my training in anatomy and surgery makes me VERY dangerous with a knife, mind you. I have no doubt I could kill someone swiftly as long as they didn't surprise me and I could get to my knife first without them knowing I had it.
I'll leave my security plans at that. I will say that the cats are not part of my plan but I wouldn't stop them from helping if they tried.
Ikonoklast
(23,973 posts)Even though he seems pretty happy there, I don't think scaring him or pissing him off would be a very good idea.
I am so very jealous, such a happy, beautiful animal...with teeth sharper than flashing scythes, and a million years of predatory ancestral biology.
easttexaslefty
(1,554 posts)Rural area, at home neighbours, and dogs. Didn't plan on any of it for security, it just worked out that way...
LeftofU
(498 posts)dimbear
(6,271 posts)more moderate.
we can do it
(12,190 posts)Manny just hides and now our new adoptee greets everyone at the door.
roody
(10,849 posts)Have a big dog and a little yapper. I only lock the house when I'm in it.
blueamy66
(6,795 posts)No guns in this house....my Dad wouldn't have them and neither will I..... especially since there is alcohol in the house...plus, having a gun begs for Trouble.... nothing like a smack across the noggin with a wooden hockey stick!
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Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)But this is our outdoor security system.
ETA: And anyone who gets by those two has to deal with these.
cliffordu
(30,994 posts)ohheckyeah
(9,314 posts)all doors. I have a gun and an outside sensor to let me know if someone comes in my driveway.
The sensor was really to alert me to someone coming in the driveway because I wouldn't hear them otherwise and I like to open the door downstairs for my elderly parents. I also like to know when FedEx or UPS drop off a package because I never know where they are going to put it. They usually set boxes right in front of my garage door so I can back over it. I live rural on 1 1/12 acres.
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(7,776 posts)a well armed parrot
With an early warning system...
Mojorabbit
(16,020 posts)-..__...
(7,776 posts)Congos and Africans.
The one thing that makes me hesitant to own one is that it would easily outlive me, and I have no one to pass it on to.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)cliffordu
(30,994 posts)made by Shosui Takeda.
a quarter of an inch at the spine, scalpel sharp at the edge.
Made of Aogami Super steel
Just like this:
http://www.arizonacustomknives.com/product.aspx?ProductID=122897&ReturnUrl=/featuredmaker.aspx?id=3872&Page=4?product-listing.aspx
The sight of my naked 200 pound ass coming down the hall with that motherfucker in my hand means you are meat.
I don't like guns. But folks can still come in my home and get the mayhem.
Cue the music from Psycho.
****(FBI study from some years back said that inside about 16 feet, a motivated guy with a knife is about the deadliest thing around, including people with guns.....I got such a little dick that if I come down the hall naked, no one will take me seriously. That means I win) Fuck a bunch of guns.
Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)...but I selected the gun and training because I think a lot of folks need to realize there are millions and millions of leftists who choose to have firearms (and who exercise responsibility in their ownership).
undeterred
(34,658 posts)Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)An integral part of the overall responsibility of owning a gun, IMO: learn how to use it competently, and practice.
Cobalt Violet
(9,905 posts)how about just lock on the door without all that fancy other stuff. Can't vote, no option for my low income ass.
Skittles
(153,170 posts)catbyte
(34,414 posts)It was during the summer, and Koko & Yum Yum started slinking around and acting spooked, then staring out of the window into the night. This went on for a week or so. My dad was a police officer who worked the 8 pm to 4 am shift. This always happened after he went to work, and neither my mom nor I ever saw anything. One night Dad acted like he was going to work but actually had taken the night off. He drove away, but parked out of sight & snuck back into the house. When the cats started acting spooked, Dad snuck outside & saw a teenager/young adult male on his tiptoes peering into our windows. Dad managed to come up behind him, then fired a round from his service revolver into the ground, then bellowed, "WHAT THE HELL DO YOU THINK YOU'RE DOING?" The peeping tom screamed then ran down our dirt driveway as fast as his legs could carry him.
Problem solved, LOL. Kitty heroes. They got their favorite treat of smelt that they inhaled whole, just like seals do.
undeterred
(34,658 posts)Kaleva
(36,318 posts)A few months ago one early morning I woke up hearing a couple of people walking around downstairs. I heard a woman say 'I think someone lives here." and then I heard them walk out. After a bit I got out of bed, got dressed, went downstairs and nothing was amiss soI made a pot of coffee. That was that.
MrSlayer
(22,143 posts)But at least she'll bark at a stranger. The fact is no one is coming to my house to rob me or whatever. I don't need much security, I live in the city and I rarely lock my door unless I'm going out.
People are too paranoid.
friendly_iconoclast
(15,333 posts)Melee weapons FTW...
undeterred
(34,658 posts)friendly_iconoclast
(15,333 posts)ZombieHorde
(29,047 posts)undeterred
(34,658 posts)ZombieHorde
(29,047 posts)I could easily provide endless links backing up this claim, but it is such common knowledge that I don't feel obligated to do so.
TheKentuckian
(25,029 posts)BainsBane
(53,038 posts)I'm a middle-aged woman who lives alone in the inner city. I see no reason to be afraid of the world around me. I know how to handle myself, and no one bothers me. If they want to steal something, it's not worth the loss of human life--mine or theirs. I don't understand the paranoia that makes these gun owners--many of them men--so fearful that they have to walk around armed all the time. They must believe themselves to be incredibly weak both physically and mentally to feel they can't protect themselves without guns. If you just leave people alone, they rarely bother you.
BeyondGeography
(39,377 posts)blueknight
(2,831 posts)a one hundred pound german sheperd, that really will bite the hell out of someone he dont know.
LeftInTX
(25,445 posts)arendt
(5,078 posts)bossy22
(3,547 posts)how much did that cost?
RC
(25,592 posts)1 TV table
1 large cookie sheet
1 folding chair
Several medium to large pots and pans. Light aluminum ones are best. If you make the tray too heavy, this will not work, as the chair will not tip the cookie sheet off the table when it falls.
Lean the folded chair, at an angle, against the door. Make sure it will NOT get caught under the door knob. (That is another security device)
Place the TV table far enough away from the door so the chair just misses it, when it falls over when the door is opened.
Place the cookie sheet on the TV table and put the pots and pans on the cookie sheet.
Adjust the cookie sheet so it is just balanced on the TV table.
If anyone tries to come in through the door, the chair will fall over, hitting the cookie sheet, sending the pots and pans noisily to the floor.
You are welcome.
*I used this when I was having problems with a crazy girlfriend.
Mojorabbit
(16,020 posts)My Shepherd is big but is a sweetheart, the other is a weiner dog who is a good alerter. I live in a high crime area. Twice now I had police chasing a bank robber across my back yard. (Bank a block from house). Good friend killed by burgler who was in his house when he came home from work. The area is just going downhill.
Jack Sprat
(2,500 posts)Strictly for self defense. No children in home. No safety on gun. Just point and shoot.
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(7,776 posts)DisgustipatedinCA
(12,530 posts)Sure, I lock the door, and I have a vicious golden retriever. But I mostly count on neighbors, and the constructs of our community to keep me safe.
HiPointDem
(20,729 posts)general good.
cynatnite
(31,011 posts)HiPointDem
(20,729 posts)WillyT
(72,631 posts)Have never thought much of the well-armed police-state.
cntrfthrs
(252 posts)Live in the country 25 miles from the nearest town but on the edge of the oil patch with its thousand-fold increase in traffic... My security is first our Malemute as an early warning system then primarily, a beretta 9mm plus a mini-14. My wife has a 5 round 22 ca. Rifle which she knows well and I've shown her how use the Barrett's and mini-14. We only go to the nearest gravel pit and terrorize cans and the occasional plastic jug. We're just a aging grandpa & grandma although I confess to a man cave filled with stereo/digital music components for my classic rock and reggae collection and my wife is an ordained zen Buddhist who studied at the LAZC...(not to mention 4 laptops, a MacBook Air, smartphones and this I-pad 3 I'm using)
TorchTheWitch
(11,065 posts)I don't feel at all safe without one especially in this neighborhood. I do wish they made more noise though since barking alone is good to keep buglers or vandals away. THey're usually silent protectors. One thing that makes a dog a better choice than a gun is that they protect the home when no people are in it. Of course, they're hardly just good at protection... they're great buddies, too. I miss my hairy bear-dog when I'm not at home.
Now I have to go hug my beastie.
Egalitarian Thug
(12,448 posts)Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)NC_Nurse
(11,646 posts)Hepburn
(21,054 posts)...while some of my neighbors bark and bite...it's the Scottie who sounds like a 100 pound Pit when she barks that affords the most protection IMO,
quaker bill
(8,224 posts)I do lock the doors if I am going to be away for a while, and that is about it. Never had a problem.
hobbit709
(41,694 posts)About 10 years ago, someone broke into the house two doors up. the people came home and the burglar went out the back door, hopped the fence into the neighbor's yard, then hopped the fence into our yard. That was about the time the back door exploded and the thundering herd came out. he got back over the fence about 3 inches ahead of my Moose dog's teeth. He was a lab-chow mix with the muscular build of a chow and weighed about 85 lbs-all muscle.
By the time he ran around the side of the neighbor's house and out to the street, the cops were pulling up.
LWolf
(46,179 posts)My doors are rarely locked.
My dog will announce any arrivals. Not that many people can find my place; family and one friend.
Myrina
(12,296 posts)n/t
ileus
(15,396 posts)I installed a 4 camera DVR system this weekend.
Locks and deadbolts on all doors and windows.
Two dogs are our alarms.
I keep an AR or 500 along with a 40,45 or 9 depending on what I remove from the safe.
HappyMe
(20,277 posts)Greybnk48
(10,168 posts)two we are caring for because my daughter can't keep hers right now. I doubt anyone would be foolish enough to pick on our house. There are several houses nearby with no doggie alarm systems.
We also have a Louisville Slugger in the bedroom and various weapons sprinkled throughout the house (swords if you can believe it, LOL). We have some guns my husband bought against my will, but they are locked in a foot locker and are available in the case of some dire emergency--end of the world, alien invasion, whatever.
a la izquierda
(11,795 posts)None of which would do anything but alert us to prowlers. I figure, if you're dumb enough to go past the sound of a huge barking dog, and it's nighttime, have at it. I live in a 19th century farmhouse, and I guarantee the prowler wouldn't figure his/her way around in the dark before I get to him/her with my Louisville slugger.
I'm 5'1", but can flip 500#tractor tires. The predator would never expect it.
4_TN_TITANS
(2,977 posts)of all shapes and sizes. My hound dog will gladly tear into anyone, she looks like a Rhodesian but is mostly Boxer and takes any threat to her family very seriously. Very seriously.
The guns just gather dust.