For those who didn't see the Schumer interview w/ Chris Hayes last night,

[yellow dahlia]

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this piece from AlterNet is a good synopsis. I was yelling at Schumer on the tv screen.

"'Delusional' Schumer spirals in 'devastating' new interview as leadership crisis deepens"
Opinion - Written by David Badash, March 19, 2025

In what some are calling a “devastating” interview Tuesday evening with MSNBC’s Chris Hayes, the Democratic leader appeared unwilling to grasp the full extent of the current threat level to American democracy, that our democracy is now at a crossroads—a fact well-documented by experts on democracy, and proclaimed by a Democratic U.S. Senator—and struggled to acknowledge that the nation is facing a constitutional crisis.

Trying to defend what is being seen as a lack of strategy, an inability to grasp the gravity of this moment in American history, and a refusal to fight the battle that is actually before him, Schumer made his argument to Hayes.

President Donald Trump’s approval “numbers have started to go down, from 51 to 47. If we keep at it and keep at it and keep at it, his numbers will be much lower. He will not only be less popular, but less effective,” Schumer insisted.

For some on social media, that appeared to be the inflection point—the moment that Schumer exposed that he is using the old playbook that the Trump administration, MAGA, The Heritage Foundation, and Project 2025 burned long ago.

Here is the full article.
https://www.alternet.org/schumer-dems-crisis/

[qazplm135]

1. Schumer is fighting the last battle

He's simply not equipped for guerilla warfare or the new paradigm. A lot of our leaders aren't.

Pelosi would probably have adapted well enough.

I'm not engaging in moderate progressive circular firing squad stuff. Both sides need the other bc neither have enough bodies to win a primary or a general election.

This isn't about that. It's about adapting to a new paradigm and being willing to risk things folks haven't been willing to risk before like the debt ceiling or shutdowns or temporary bad media.

[yellow dahlia]

3. In order for us all to survive, all of our reps...including the leaders,

need to recognize and play to the strengths pf the team.

His lack of objectivity is putting us all at risk. We don't have time to coddle anyone's feelings.

I agree - a paradigm shift is needed. And replacing Schumer with a leader matched for the moment can start that shift. The message needs to be - there is a new sheriff in town.

[et tu]

23. he is bringing a knife to a gun battle

this is so serious dems must unite and
fight fire with fire

[Gore1FL]

24. On closer inspection, I believe it is a spoon. nt

[et tu]

25. you are right

so sad for us as a country

[mdbl]

21. Risk is the key word

They are too afraid of losing - whatever. They are used to a cushy job and guaranteed income so much so they are willing to sacrifice the country just to save it, as Repugs are willing to sacrifice to destroy it.

[Mister Ed]

32. It's like mulling diplomatic solutions to conflict with Japan...the morning after Pearl Harbor. n/t

[Emile]

2. He needs to do some town halls in NY state

and explain to his voters why he voted with the Republicans. He needs to hear what they think of his tactics.

[AltairIV]

11. Gillibrand too

His problem has always been he is much to close to that Wall Street crowd and the big banks and their money. He needs to go

[LearnedHand]

4. Link stripped of teachers and beacons

https://www.alternet.org/schumer-dems-crisis/

[yellow dahlia]

5. Should I move your link to my OP instead?

I don't know what teachers and beacons are? I am still new to some of this stuff.

[LearnedHand]

6. lol I meant "trackers and beacons"

No idea what happened! Up to you. I just wanted a clean link to be here somewhere.

[yellow dahlia]

7. Oh, got it. Thanks.

I like it when we give ourselves a chuckle.

[LearnedHand]

10. It was a very funny autocorrect fail 😂

[Docreed2003]

8. I'm glad that Sen Schumer already had these media appearances lined up for his book tour

He's shining a glaring light on the fact that he is woefully out of touch with the seriousness of the moment. He's showing himself to be unwilling to appreciate just how outraged the American people are at this moment and, worse still, his unwillingness to self reflect and see that he isn't capable of wartime leadership.

[yellow dahlia]

9. Spot on.

[progressoid]

12. Yeah.

He said his tour is postponed due to "security issues."

Uh...gee Chuck, that should be a clue that people are pissed off!

[Docreed2003]

13. Facts!

[Irish_Dem]

14. He deserves to spend his golden years in lovely, gracious retirement.

[yellow dahlia]

16. We all do. But he may get in the way of that,

if he doesn't get out of the way.

[Irish_Dem]

17. Yes. I meant he should retire right now.

Long overdue.

[question everything]

15. Had a very credible appearance on PBS NewsHour. I hope to post it from YouTube once it is there

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I suppose the attitude of the interviewer makes a difference

Here

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220158555

[UTUSN]

18. Well, is there a HAYES piece slaying a wingnut, sure I know

[MiKenMi33]

19. I like Schumer but I agree with what Stephanie Miller said today.

He’s not the right person for this job at this time. We need him but not in his current position.

[William769]

20. He fucked us, end of story. nt

[Martin68]

22. Sad to say, Schumer has outlived his usefulness.

[usonian]

26. Chuck, You're out. We need a war consigliere.

From a 2016 article:
https://maddogdemocrat.blogspot.com/2016/02/bernie-sanders-war-consigliere.html


Michael has cooly assessed the forces arrayed against him and concluded accommodation, amelioration, reaching agreements with those whom the Corleones will naturally come into conflict is not realistic. In the more tranquil past, the aims and interests of the Corleone family could be negotiated, but those prudent compromises of the past will no longer serve.

"The dogmas of the quiet past, are inadequate to the stormy present. The occasion is piled high with difficulty, and we must rise with the occasion. As our case is new, so we must think anew, and act anew. We must disenthrall our selves, and then we shall save our country. "

--Abraham Lincoln

There is a moment in "The Godfather" when Michael Corleone assigns various members of his organization specific tasks but he dismisses his loyal adviser, Tom Hagen.

Tom turns to him and asks what he has done wrong. "Michael, why am I out?"
"You have been a good consigliere, Tom," Michael says, "But you are not a war consigliere. Right now, I need a war consigliere."

[Rhiannon12866]

27. Here's the full Senator Schumer interview from last night for those who missed it:

'This worked in 2017': Schumer defends Democratic strategy to resist Trump - Primetime Exclusive - All In - MSNBC
https://democraticunderground.com/132144310

[yellow dahlia]

29. Thanks

[Rhiannon12866]

31. They put the two segments of his interview together and uploaded the full interview tonight

First, he talked about his book on antisemitism and part two was about his Senate vote:

FULL INTERVIEW: Chuck Schumer joins Chris Hayes - All In - MSNBC
https://democraticunderground.com/132144369

[FuzzyRabbit]

28. Schumer has not kept up with the times.

He acts as if it is still 1995 instead of 2025. The best of us can become out of touch.

It's time to replace him with Democrats who can inspire the country, people like AOC and Jasmine Crockett.

I wonder, do we have anyone like Winston Churchill in WW2 or Volodymyr Zelenskyy now?

[yellow dahlia]

30. Chris Murphy is fighting and has the chutzpah, and the right message.

Murphy explains that we are at crunch time - we have likely no more than six months to save our Democracy. I think the Congress members need to explain to people the crisis of the moment.

Sheldon Whitehouse and Jamie Raskin are good explainers. John Larson is an out front voice right now. Melanie Stansbury and Maxwell Frost are new members with a good voice. And there are many others who know their stuff - Eliz. Warren, Eric Swallwell, Cory Booker.

Bernie's Fighting Oligarchy tour is the right message and he is doing the work.

Everyone needs to bring their A game right now.