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AntiFascist

(13,732 posts)
Sun Mar 23, 2025, 03:26 PM Mar 2025

Hmmm..."Due to increasing vandalism and protests targeting Tesla vehicles,...

some insurance companies are considering raising premiums or potentially refusing to insure Teslas, citing the rising risk of damage and repair costs." according to Google AI. (hehe)

Tesla Owners Brace For Soaring Insurance Costs And Even Bans As EV Attacks Escalate

Tesla owners across America are living in fear of having their EVs trashed by activists lashing out at CEO Elon Musk’s controversial DOGE efficiency drive that has cost thousands of federal jobs. But even drivers whose Teslas aren’t targeted by vandals could find themselves with a nasty shock further down the line.

Insurers are warning that the attacks could raise premiums for all Tesla drivers and potentially even lead to cars like the Model 3, Model Y and Cybertruck being blacklisted by insurance companies.
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https://www.carscoops.com/2025/03/teslas-could-be-insurance-blacklisted-if-anti-musk-vandalism-continues/


Who wants a Tesla now?
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Hmmm..."Due to increasing vandalism and protests targeting Tesla vehicles,... (Original Post) AntiFascist Mar 2025 OP
Heartbreaking.... Irish_Dem Mar 2025 #1
😥 rubbersole Mar 2025 #3
Or California with all the wildfires MichMan Mar 2025 #7
Hope it doesn't get so bad they are canceled and can never get insurance again. Irish_Dem Mar 2025 #8
Thoughts and prayers... likesmountains 52 Mar 2025 #2
People who bought these because they care about the environment are caught in the middle of this. Scrivener7 Mar 2025 #4
Sen. Mark Kelly traded his in on a big gas guzzling SUV MichMan Mar 2025 #5
Your point? Scrivener7 Mar 2025 #9
I'm guessing he falls into that category MichMan Mar 2025 #10
Why would you guess that? It appears clear that isn't the case for him. Scrivener7 Mar 2025 #11
He has previously said that he is very concerned about climate change. MichMan Mar 2025 #16
That's nice. Scrivener7 Mar 2025 #33
Read some of his other posts PeterIsMyBrother Mar 2025 #25
Yep. Scrivener7 Mar 2025 #34
If I had not ... oldsoldierfadingfast Mar 2025 #32
A friend of mine bought one several years ago for this very reason, prior to Abolishinist Mar 2025 #13
Brother in law, niece, and her husband all drive Teslas - Conjuay Mar 2025 #39
My cousin too. Actually makes a living in the solar energy field. And he can't Scrivener7 Mar 2025 #41
What's funny.....I've seen more teslas in just the last few weeks than I've ever seen previously....... a kennedy Mar 2025 #6
You can get a great deal on a used one pimpbot Mar 2025 #12
Unless they drive a Cybertruck johnnyfins Mar 2025 #14
Bad taste is the least of their problems. rubbersole Mar 2025 #24
This was all brought on by Musk... AntiFascist Mar 2025 #17
I can't condone the vandalism or violence against cars and property... Wounded Bear Mar 2025 #15
And a real bummer if they get caught and prosecuted. This for CA, but no doubt similar in other states. Abolishinist Mar 2025 #30
Actually, it does. Sky Jewels Mar 2025 #38
Keep up the pressure! it's working! (be loud not violent) Blues Heron Mar 2025 #18
A used Cybertruck could be useful converted to pick up golfballs at a driving range. Towlie Mar 2025 #19
We have a base model Tesla that we bought 6 years ago to protect the environment. Danmel Mar 2025 #20
It's not "fun" for a lot of people, which is why people are acting out. n/t AntiFascist Mar 2025 #21
I understand but how does making me pay more insurance change anything Danmel Mar 2025 #22
Bringing down Tesla may be the only way, at present, to rein in Musk... AntiFascist Mar 2025 #23
How does vandalizing some random person's Tesla help with that? EdmondDantes_ Mar 2025 #27
No, word gets around. Sky Jewels Mar 2025 #40
I'm not advocating vandalizing random people's Teslas! AntiFascist Mar 2025 #42
No excuses for violence against people who were injured by the richest man in the world... Hekate Mar 2025 #36
Same with our niece & her husband. They were miles ahead of us regarding a no-gas commute... Hekate Mar 2025 #35
How long until Trump or Pam Bambi threatens insurance companies? IcyPeas Mar 2025 #26
I need a magnifying glass to see these violins.... marmar Mar 2025 #28
The chainsaw yielding hooligan can pay these premiums which would be a small change for him question everything Mar 2025 #29
Never did. marble falls Mar 2025 #31
Those bdamomma Mar 2025 #37
Vandalism is not fair.... AntiFascist Mar 2025 #43
Cybertrucks are already not being covered LetMyPeopleVote Mar 2025 #44
How many are starting their own heaps on fire for the insurance money? GoCubsGo Mar 2025 #45
Without evidence - I think those torching Tesla dealerships are inside jobs. AStern Mar 2025 #46

rubbersole

(10,993 posts)
3. 😥
Sun Mar 23, 2025, 03:32 PM
Mar 2025

I'm crushed.
Hope it doesn't get as bad as coastal home owners' insurance in desantis' Florida.

Irish_Dem

(79,935 posts)
8. Hope it doesn't get so bad they are canceled and can never get insurance again.
Sun Mar 23, 2025, 03:37 PM
Mar 2025

So very sad.....

Scrivener7

(58,411 posts)
4. People who bought these because they care about the environment are caught in the middle of this.
Sun Mar 23, 2025, 03:33 PM
Mar 2025

Yes, the brand suffers and that's good, but so do they.

MichMan

(16,663 posts)
10. I'm guessing he falls into that category
Sun Mar 23, 2025, 03:40 PM
Mar 2025

"People who bought these because they care about the environment are caught in the middle of this."

MichMan

(16,663 posts)
16. He has previously said that he is very concerned about climate change.
Sun Mar 23, 2025, 03:59 PM
Mar 2025

As virtually every Democratic elected office holder is.

Why would it be a poor assumption to think that was why he originally chose to buy a Tesla EV? I am surprised however that he replaced it with an ICE powered Chevrolet Tahoe instead of another brand of EV.

FYI, you will never see me driving one of those behemoths (or a Tesla for that matter).

CNN- Democratic Sen. Mark Kelly on Sunday leaned into his experience as an astronaut to call for climate crisis action amid a blistering heatwave across the United States, including his home state of Arizona.

“When I went into space four times, I mean, I could see how thin the atmosphere is over this planet. It’s as thin as a contact lens on an eyeball, and we have got to do a better job taking care of it,” Kelly told CNN’s Jake Tapper on “State of the Union.”

“I have not seen in my time in the Senate many folks that deny that the climate is changing. That was a thing of the past. Now is: What do we do about it? We passed the Inflation Reduction Act, which is a big down payment on reducing the amount of carbon we put up into the atmosphere. That will make a difference over time. We obviously have to do more,” he added.[/excerpt

https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/16/politics/mark-kelly-climate-change-heat-wave-cnntv/index.html

32. If I had not ...
Sun Mar 23, 2025, 07:41 PM
Mar 2025

bought my 2007 gas guzzling Jeep, I would have had to replace my mode of transport at least once every couple of years not to mention how often the brakes would need repair. The driveway to my horse farm is on a hillside and longer than a football field, quite steep in places with 2 very deep ravines on the side opposite the house. At the bottom of the hill is a creek that overflows and one has to be high enough off the ground to cross it in a heavy rain.
Getting to some of the flipper houses that I bought and repaired was even worse and I needed the gas guzzling Ford pick-up truck with an 8' bed to go up and down mountains and around horseshoe curves to transport drywall and plywood to the job.
A 6 cylinder engine car can't pull a horse trailer and just thinking of the brakes giving out coming down a mtn. and going around a curve that has a deep ravine makes me quiver.
Not everyone lives the same life style or has the same needs.
I won't disparage you for your choice; if you won't disparage me and M. Kelly, for ours!

Abolishinist

(2,888 posts)
13. A friend of mine bought one several years ago for this very reason, prior to
Sun Mar 23, 2025, 03:45 PM
Mar 2025

learning so much more about who eLoon really is.

I would have to imagine as well that the majority of owners thought they were helping the environment, and are probably Dems as well. Data from Strategic Vision, which has surveyed hundreds of thousands of car buyers, shows that since 2019, 38% of Tesla buyers have identified themselves as Democrats, and 30% have said they’re Republicans. (from 2/3/2022).

Destruction of the personal property of others in such a manner should never be tolerated by anyone, regardless of politics.

Conjuay

(2,908 posts)
39. Brother in law, niece, and her husband all drive Teslas -
Sun Mar 23, 2025, 08:22 PM
Mar 2025

Vegetarian/ Sierra Club types - kind and compassionate. They never signed up for this.

Scrivener7

(58,411 posts)
41. My cousin too. Actually makes a living in the solar energy field. And he can't
Sun Mar 23, 2025, 08:26 PM
Mar 2025

afford to sell the car now because they have no resale value. So he's stuck with it for the foreseeable future.

I would have bought one but I live in an apartment and had no convenient place to charge it. Thank God.

a kennedy

(35,346 posts)
6. What's funny.....I've seen more teslas in just the last few weeks than I've ever seen previously.......
Sun Mar 23, 2025, 03:36 PM
Mar 2025

Might be because I’m paying more attention to cars around me??? Weird I’m seeing more of them.

pimpbot

(1,161 posts)
12. You can get a great deal on a used one
Sun Mar 23, 2025, 03:44 PM
Mar 2025

Even the new pricing with tax credits are pretty good considering the savings paying for electricity vs gas over the life of the car.

I support protesting Musk and his companies but hating on individuals who happen to own a Tesla is pretty crappy.

AntiFascist

(13,732 posts)
17. This was all brought on by Musk...
Sun Mar 23, 2025, 04:00 PM
Mar 2025

and Musk's Tesla and SpaceX profits are literally driving the corruption and downfall of our government.

I don't condone violence either, but this is all pretty predictable.

Wounded Bear

(63,863 posts)
15. I can't condone the vandalism or violence against cars and property...
Sun Mar 23, 2025, 03:58 PM
Mar 2025

I support real peaceful protest, but the violence and vandalism doesn't help our cause.

Abolishinist

(2,888 posts)
30. And a real bummer if they get caught and prosecuted. This for CA, but no doubt similar in other states.
Sun Mar 23, 2025, 07:15 PM
Mar 2025

California makes it illegal to deface, damage, or destroy property that is not your own.

Vandalism is punished based on the value of the property. If you are convicted of the Felony form of Vandalism, you face up to three years in a state prison, a fine of up to $50,000, or both prison and a fine.

Penalties For Vandalism Under CPC §§594(a)(1)-(3)

Misdemeanor Vandalism - less than $400
If you're convicted of misdemeanor vandalism, the penalty may be:
A term of up to one (1) year in a county jail; OR,
A fine of up to $1000 (one-thousand dollars); OR,
Both a fine and imprisonment.

Felony Vandalism - $400 +
If you are charged with violating Section 594 as a felony, the penalty may be:
A term of up to sentenced to three (3) years in a state prison; OR,
A fine of up to $50,000 (fifty-thousand dollars); OR,
Both imprisonment and a fine.

Towlie

(5,557 posts)
19. A used Cybertruck could be useful converted to pick up golfballs at a driving range.
Sun Mar 23, 2025, 04:32 PM
Mar 2025

Give the golfers a moving target.

Danmel

(5,691 posts)
20. We have a base model Tesla that we bought 6 years ago to protect the environment.
Sun Mar 23, 2025, 04:37 PM
Mar 2025

We shouldn't have to be afraid, trade it in for pennies or pay exorbitant insurance. We didn't do anything wrong.

Vandalism runs both ways. Today we were discussing whether putting one of those stickers on the car would make it more likely or less likely to be vandalized.

It's not fun.

Danmel

(5,691 posts)
22. I understand but how does making me pay more insurance change anything
Sun Mar 23, 2025, 05:09 PM
Mar 2025

I hate Musk too, bit we bought it 6 years ago.

AntiFascist

(13,732 posts)
23. Bringing down Tesla may be the only way, at present, to rein in Musk...
Sun Mar 23, 2025, 05:50 PM
Mar 2025

as we wait for legal challenges or Congress to take some action.

As we lose our grasp on democracy, you can expect more people to act out and more pain. Look at what's happening with protests and demonstrations in Istanbul, where they locked up the mayor on trumped up charges because he posed such a democratic threat in running against Erdogan.

EdmondDantes_

(1,394 posts)
27. How does vandalizing some random person's Tesla help with that?
Sun Mar 23, 2025, 06:48 PM
Mar 2025

I can see the rationale for vandalizing a Tesla sales lot (not that I agree with it), but what does attacking a random person's property do for the larger cause? That's just being a jerk.

 

Sky Jewels

(9,148 posts)
40. No, word gets around.
Sun Mar 23, 2025, 08:26 PM
Mar 2025

Who would want to buy a Tesla now? You’d have to worry every time you parked it outside your garage. And insurance companies are going to jump ship or charge exorbitant prices. Elon’s name is synonymous with poison worldwide. How does Tesla recover? I don’t see it happening.

AntiFascist

(13,732 posts)
42. I'm not advocating vandalizing random people's Teslas!
Mon Mar 24, 2025, 12:45 AM
Mar 2025

and there are legal ways to bring the company to its knees: demonstrating in front of dealerships, boycotting the company, dumping stock, etc.

I'm simply pointing out that these results are not unexpected.

If you bought a Tesla in the past, then the simple fact is that some of those profits went toward putting Trump into power and are being used to coerce and corrupt Republican leaders, whether you wanted it or not.

Hekate

(100,132 posts)
36. No excuses for violence against people who were injured by the richest man in the world...
Sun Mar 23, 2025, 08:15 PM
Mar 2025

See post 35 for real life

Hekate

(100,132 posts)
35. Same with our niece & her husband. They were miles ahead of us regarding a no-gas commute...
Sun Mar 23, 2025, 08:13 PM
Mar 2025

Why on Earth would we want to wish them harm for that?

Many Dems and Save-the-Earthers, at least those who could afford a Tesla, bought them back before Elon entered politics and bought trump. They had it on good authority that they were doing the right thing, too.

So now my niece has put 3 different stickers on her car to indicate she’s not a trumpista or a fan of musk. Sure she has a good job, but she’s also a human being with a daughter in college and a husband who has survived (so far) a torturous surgery for a complicated cancer last year.

I hate this whole grotesque business of blaming everyone else for Musk’s sins, and then doing them violence.


bdamomma

(69,176 posts)
37. Those
Sun Mar 23, 2025, 08:20 PM
Mar 2025

employees who work for Tesla are at risk of losing their jobs, is this fair to them? or maybe they should just look for employment somewhere else amid all of this vandalism.

AntiFascist

(13,732 posts)
43. Vandalism is not fair....
Mon Mar 24, 2025, 01:05 AM
Mar 2025

but I predict that if we continue losing our democracy you'll see a lot more violence and ultimately martial law as a result.

GoCubsGo

(34,676 posts)
45. How many are starting their own heaps on fire for the insurance money?
Mon Mar 24, 2025, 11:46 AM
Mar 2025

Whether it's individuals, or dealers, people can't even pay others to take those shitboxes off their hands. It's hard not to think that at least some Tesla owners and dealerships will take advantage of a handful of incidents of vandalism by lighting up their own vehicles.

AStern

(697 posts)
46. Without evidence - I think those torching Tesla dealerships are inside jobs.
Mon Mar 24, 2025, 11:49 AM
Mar 2025

You are welcome to prove me wrong.

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