Dems smearing other Dems? STOP IT! I love Bernie and AOC but they need to stop the circular firing squad.

[Jit423]

Good they are out there doing what other Dems and many GOP are not. We Democrats do believe that no one in this country should be above the law. We all believe that you should be hearing the truth and the facts. We Democrats believe that we should hear from you, and listen to your concerns. We Democrats believe that everyone who is eligible to vote should vote. By doing so, you hold ALL of us accountable for our actions.

[Nanjeanne]

1. Have you listened to a single rally? I have to many and I have no idea what circular firing squad you talk about.

[Oopsie Daisy]

20. Yes. In fact I have. The "same-same" comparisons and other insinuations that the Democrats *

* are bought-and-paid-for (ie: corrupt) does not motivate people to support Democrats over Republicans. This has been a oft-repeated mantra about Democrats, I'm surprised that there's anyone around who hasn't already heard any of the many dozen different versions of it. Some subtle, others less-so... it runs the gamut.

https://thehill.com/homenews/5207811-sanders-not-a-whole-lot-of-faith-in-either-party/

But Sanders said, “Democrats also have a whole lot of billionaires funding their campaigns.”

“And you know, I think people are looking for alternatives. And I think, among other things, they also want to end this corrupt campaign finance system … which allows billionaires in both parties to buy elections,” he said.

Additional info about this link to The Hill https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-hill/


(Rated "LEAST BIASED"... right in the middle. Not left, not right. Except the far-left The Hill is "right" and the far-right thinks The Hill is "left".)

[Nanjeanne]

25. Oh I never heard that in the 5 rallies I watched. But thanks for providing the details since I know I

can always depend on you to pull out a quote from Bernie to support your opinion. Thank so much!

[Oopsie Daisy]

27. You're very welcome! It seemed unlikely that you'd have simply taken my word for it and *

* would have asked for proof or demanded "Links?" as many are want to do. Therefore in order to save time, I figured it would be wise to simply provide that information up front. I suspected that it had probably been overlooked and it was something you'd appreciate being brought to your attention.

[Nanjeanne]

29. Honestly I don't do that. I read and research

for myself. I let people have their own opinions and only try to engage in actual discussion. If discussion isn’t going to happen, I live and let live.

[Blue Full Moon]

30. You mean like the billionaire that had Pelosi make Biden drop out.

[GoreWon2000]

2. There are times in life

when the truth is ugly and when the truth hurts. We're now living in one of those times. At least Bernie and AOC are trying to fight back which is much more than I can say for Schumer.

[elocs]

31. Many people agreed with Schumar that shutting the government down would have been

much worse than the CR. There was no perfect choice but I would not want to give more power to Trump to make choices if there was a shutdown.

[TBF]

33. define "many people" - a handful here on DU?

Trump is absolutely doing whatever the heck he wants right now. He'll continue to do that with or without a shutdown. The last thing any democrat should be doing is making it easier for him. Every democrat in Congress should be stonewalling, just as republicans do to us.

[uponit7771]

36. Majority of Americans would blame MAGA and Trump

[GoreWon2000]

39. I completely disagree

The repug CR is a blank check for tRump/Musk and they're now using it to the fullest. It also undermines the lawsuits because now the tRump/Musk rampage has Congressional approval. FYI, the outrage at Schumer has been enormous and has resulted in larger protests.

[leftstreet]

3. What are you on about? n/t

[democrank]

4. Constructive criticism is not a firing squad

Trump’s wreckage all across the United States calls for louder than average responses, and tougher than average messaging. Saving our country is far more important to me than staying within imaginary or debatable lines.

I want Democrats to freely speak, whether I agree with them or not.

[brush]

5. What circular firing squad? This OP makes no sense.

[FakeNoose]

6. Bernie Sanders isn't a Democrat

As far as I know, he has never joined our Party, but he expects Democrats to vote for him, and he feels it's his right to scold us every chance he gets. I don't know about you, but I find that a little annoying.

[wryter2000]

7. I also find it annoying

If he wants to tell us what to do, he should join the party

[Autumn]

8. Nope. He will never do that. Many of us who always vote for Democrats

won't join the party.

[synni]

9. I don't find honor and passion annoying

I'm more concerned about the fate of my country, than cheerleading for my party when it's failing in its duty.

Rah-rah supporting of one's own party, despite its failings, is what Fox News viewers do.

[FakeNoose]

16. Don't get me wrong, I agree with many of Bernie's political positions

... but he doesn't have the right to scold us if he won't join our Party.

[AStern]

11. Too bad because Dems would win more if they adopted most of his initiatives

nt

[W_HAMILTON]

19. No, they wouldn't.

Sanders and his ilk hail from the bluest of blue areas -- places where Democrats are already winning and would continue to win if he (or they) chose not to run and some random run-of-the-mill Democrat took their place instead.

If Sanders and his progressive disciples could win in purple/red areas, they would be. But they aren't.

Fact of the matter is Sanders is the poster child for all the slurs Republicans have hurled at our party as a whole for the past few decades and the only reason some on the right seem to like him is because they realize he's good at dividing those on the left and helping their MAGA buddies win elections.

[AStern]

21. I beg to differ and the Dems moving farther to the right, trying to cater to knuckle-draggers has been an utter failure.

A good day to you.

[BlueKota]

28. Agreed. For too long we have let the other side define

what being a Liberal Democrat means. I remember when I use to watch the interviews where they had a Democrat and a Thug both. Everytime the Democrat started to speak the thugs would shout over them and the Democrat would politely and in a normal volume say, "it's my turn let me speak." The Republicans never complied. Yet the Democrats rarely if ever tried to shout the Republicans down. Yes civility and decorum have value, but not to the point where you let other people manipulate you into silence with it.

Also why would anyone vote for a watered down version of former Republican policies when they lossed their own party to a bunch of lunatics? Democrats need to get out our message about who we actually are. It's also our turn to define the Republicans as who and what they are. People who mostly care about their own well being, white supremacists, and helping billionaires.

If we have to get loud, in their face, and occasionally out right nasty to them so be it. The country needs a viable opposition and that's not going to be achieved from always trying to follow the Miss Manners playbook.

[TBF]

34. And that is exactly the purpose of the OP (who did not stick around to defend his piece) -

to get everyone fighting again. It is beyond obvious by now.

[snowybirdie]

10. We need

Many strong democratic voices ranting against Felon. Bernie and AOC. are super and I love their passion. But realistically, folks who votes for Felon see them as radicals and can be reluctant to change their minds because of this. The press also needs to step up. We'll get our act together, Im sure. Sooner rather than later, hopefully.

Shumers not the guy now, but there are many young passionate voices in the Party that will come forward soon! Lets move on with finger pointing and encourage those strong democratic voices we know who can attract people pissed at government changes. Remember how quickly Obama became our champion? It can happen again.

[ornotna]

12. This right here

Is your circular firing squad.

Congratulations. Mission accomplished.

[pinkstarburst]

13. Bernie and AOC are quickly becoming the voice and leadership

of the party, a party whose voters are angered by the inaction so far from most prominent democrats. Newsflash: wearing pink and holding up paddles isn't cutting it, guys.

If Schumer and Hakeem Jeffries don't like what they're doing and saying they should, I don't know, maybe step up and start leading? Otherwise, step down and get out of the way for people who actually want to take on the republicans, not organize costume changes and paddles.

[Think. Again.]

14. If we hope to save Democracy...

...we will have to get over our bigotry for non-Dems.

pro-fascism rightwingers are a lost cause, but there is still another one third of the voting age public that aren't registered as Dem or NAZi.

This is not a fight between Democrats and Republicans anymore, this is a fight between Pro-Democracy and pro-fascism.

We need to join forces with ANYONE who is Pro-Democracy no matter what political party they belong to, if any.

[democrank]

17. Democracy vs. fascism, not Democrats vs. everyone else

Thank you so much

[Think. Again.]

22. Thank YOU!

You've said it much better than I did!

[jalan48]

15. "You're either part of the solution or you're part of the problem". ---Eldridge Cleaver

[Paladin]

18. Just as soon as Democratic leadership starts exhibiting some guts and intelligence. (nt)

[Duncan Grant]

23. C'mon, is this COINTELPRO?

You can’t be serious.

[senseandsensibility]

24. Oh goodie

Another thread telling other DUers how to post. We have an excellent system here on DU for alerting. If it doesn't break DU rules, it's none of your business.

[ms liberty]

26. Your concern is noted.

[msongs]

32. the OP has left the thread lol btw bernie and AOC should be shaming all the do nothing dems nt

[uponit7771]

35. AGREED!!

[Paladin]

37. If Bernie and AOC are a "circular firing squad"...

...Chuck Schumer is wandering around with an unloaded gun and a blindfold.

[William769]

38. I don't understand your op. How are Bernie & AOC a circular firing squad?

I may never know since you have not responded to one Post in this thread.

So I can only conclude one thing and it doesn't look good for you.

[JCMach1]

40. I am not a HUGE Bernie or AOC fan, but what i do know

Is what a trainwreck Dem. Leadership's response to the Trump Regime has been.

The criticism is earned and Schumer needs to go.