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HereForTheParty

(915 posts)
Mon Mar 24, 2025, 05:48 PM Mar 2025

Jeffries on Kat Abughazaleh's primary challenge of Jan Schakow: "I'm not familiar with who you are talking about."

Jeffries on Kat Abughazaleh's primary challenge of Jan Schakow: "I'm not familiar with who you are talking about. [Jan is] a longstanding member, obviously a longstanding stalwart progressive member. I'm unfamiliar with this particular challenge."

Jeffries on Kat Abughazaleh's primary challenge of Jan Schakow: "I'm not familiar with who you are talking about. [Jan is] a longstanding member, obviously a longstanding stalwart progressive member. I'm unfamiliar with this particular challenge."

Aaron Rupar (@atrupar.com) 2025-03-24T21:02:02.935Z


Yeah, let's give an endorsement to the 80 year old incumbent when we supposedly don't know the challenger.

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Jeffries on Kat Abughazaleh's primary challenge of Jan Schakow: "I'm not familiar with who you are talking about." (Original Post) HereForTheParty Mar 2025 OP
Here you go Jeffries, courtesy of this newfangled thing called the Internet. GreenWave Mar 2025 #1
This is my district. surrealAmerican Mar 2025 #2
Hoping you are right HereForTheParty Mar 2025 #3
It is literally a core function of Jeffries' job to support incumbents, what a weird criticism. tritsofme Mar 2025 #4
Exactly right.. but Oh time Cha Mar 2025 #6
Apparently the challenger has settled on a campaign slogan: "What if we didn't suck". lapucelle Mar 2025 #10
Which has nothing to do with Rep Jan Schakowsky. Cha Mar 2025 #15
i'm not in her district but it seems jan is loved, and can kick ass when needed. i think she's pretty great. i hear her orleans Mar 2025 #18
Mahalo for that, orleans! Cha Mar 2025 #25
She sounds dependable. lapucelle Mar 2025 #20
"lmao". Yeah it's hilarious 😴 Cha Mar 2025 #26
Oh, boy, that subset of the left is gonna try to stick us with another Sinema/Fetterman, aren't they? W_HAMILTON Mar 2025 #29
The horseshoe is a circle. nt PunkinPi Mar 2025 #33
Well, that's just brilliant mcar Mar 2025 #46
Against primary challengers? HereForTheParty Mar 2025 #8
Yeah, it is true. I'm surprised that anyone involved in Democratic politics doesn't know that. lapucelle Mar 2025 #12
It's worse because *sometimes* the challenger is a better candidate HereForTheParty Mar 2025 #17
So you don't understand the Minority Leader/ Speaker's role. lapucelle Mar 2025 #19
Correct, but you'll get pushback writerJT Mar 2025 #36
"party lickspittles"?One thing you can count on with us Democrats. We always hold our internal disputes and family fight Walleye Mar 2025 #51
A. Leader Jeffries is not going to endorse a primary opponent mcar Mar 2025 #47
Is that in the caucus rules? writerJT Mar 2025 #31
Why would anyone be looking for a rule about this in a document about parliamentary procedure from two Congresses ago? lapucelle Mar 2025 #32
That's on the Democrats' official website. writerJT Mar 2025 #34
That's still a link to parliamentary procedural rules. lapucelle Mar 2025 #37
So you can't cite anything. writerJT Mar 2025 #38
For anyone who does not know the assignment (much less understand it) lapucelle Mar 2025 #40
Once again, no substance. writerJT Mar 2025 #41
Jeffries endorsed both Bowman and Bush in their primaries last year. N/T lapucelle Mar 2025 #42
LOL writerJT Mar 2025 #43
What are you talking about? N/T lapucelle Mar 2025 #44
What do you think that leadership and the DCCC didn't do for incumbents 1n 2020? lapucelle Mar 2025 #50
Jeffries is the elected leader of House Democratic members, not their opponents. tritsofme Mar 2025 #13
You're good. It's not true. writerJT Mar 2025 #35
I guess the "everybody knows that" citation isn't terribly reliable HereForTheParty Mar 2025 #45
Post removed Post removed Mar 2025 #52
Schakowsi is graded as a top progressive, in both votes as well as intent. Torchlight Mar 2025 #5
The Democratic Speaker/Minority Leader's endorsement always goes to the incumbent. Everybody knows that. N/T lapucelle Mar 2025 #7
He might really be unfamiliar Renew Deal Mar 2025 #9
Not as unfamiliar as some are with the role of the Speaker/Minority Leader. N/T lapucelle Mar 2025 #14
What's wrong with being 80 ? Is there an issue with how she votes ? JI7 Mar 2025 #11
Jan Schakowsky's record speaks for itself. lapucelle Mar 2025 #16
The worrying part isn't Jeffries not knowing an internet celeb the day they declare they are running... W_HAMILTON Mar 2025 #28
It's obviously ageism mcar Mar 2025 #48
This reminds me of the time when Olivia Nuzzi thought President Biden was supposed to know who she was. lapucelle Mar 2025 #21
I'm not surprised he doesn't know who she is. BlueTsunami2018 Mar 2025 #22
Do you really think the Leader mcar Mar 2025 #23
He didn't endorse, he said he wasn't aware of this challenge (launched today, it seems). muriel_volestrangler Mar 2025 #24
Jan Schakowsky was my representative for a long time. greatauntoftriplets Mar 2025 #27
KAT has raised $150k in less than 12 hours HereForTheParty Mar 2025 #30
*lights hair on fire, screaming* THAT'S IT I'M NEVAR VOTING FOR A DEMOCRAT AGAIN IN PERPETUITY FOREVAR!!!11!! betsuni Mar 2025 #39
Why the ageism? mcar Mar 2025 #49

GreenWave

(12,606 posts)
1. Here you go Jeffries, courtesy of this newfangled thing called the Internet.
Mon Mar 24, 2025, 05:53 PM
Mar 2025
https://gizmodo.com/a-populist-influencer-is-running-for-congress-and-actually-understands-youtube-2000579826

Journalist and influencer Kat Abughazaleh announced she’s running for Congress in a YouTube video. In a video that looked more like a livestream than an announcement of a bid for office, Abughazaleh promised to run a transparent campaign, fight for affordable groceries, and stand up to authoritarians.

Abughazaleh is running in Illinois’ 9th district, which covers the north side of Chicago and some of its suburbs. She’ll attempt to unseat Democratic incumbent and party stalwart Jan Schakowsky, who is 81 and has held her seat since 1999.

surrealAmerican

(11,856 posts)
2. This is my district.
Mon Mar 24, 2025, 05:59 PM
Mar 2025

I have a lot of faith in my neighbors to make this choice, regardless of what Jeffries says.

tritsofme

(19,882 posts)
4. It is literally a core function of Jeffries' job to support incumbents, what a weird criticism.
Mon Mar 24, 2025, 06:58 PM
Mar 2025

Cha

(318,693 posts)
6. Exactly right.. but Oh time
Mon Mar 24, 2025, 07:06 PM
Mar 2025

to pile on Rep Hakeem Jeffie's Again.

What he said about Jan Schakowsky is Exactly True.















lapucelle

(21,042 posts)
10. Apparently the challenger has settled on a campaign slogan: "What if we didn't suck".
Mon Mar 24, 2025, 07:33 PM
Mar 2025

Cha

(318,693 posts)
15. Which has nothing to do with Rep Jan Schakowsky.
Mon Mar 24, 2025, 07:43 PM
Mar 2025

I don't know if she's going to run again But if she does I'm Thinking her Constituents hold her in high regard... she's earned it.

Mahalo, lapucelle

orleans

(36,861 posts)
18. i'm not in her district but it seems jan is loved, and can kick ass when needed. i think she's pretty great. i hear her
Mon Mar 24, 2025, 07:48 PM
Mar 2025

on wcpt's joan esposito show... i don't hear *my* dem congressional rep but i hear jan

Cha

(318,693 posts)
25. Mahalo for that, orleans!
Mon Mar 24, 2025, 08:35 PM
Mar 2025

I’ve been reading Good things about JK for years.

🕯️🕊️💙🌈

W_HAMILTON

(10,313 posts)
29. Oh, boy, that subset of the left is gonna try to stick us with another Sinema/Fetterman, aren't they?
Mon Mar 24, 2025, 08:53 PM
Mar 2025

lapucelle

(21,042 posts)
12. Yeah, it is true. I'm surprised that anyone involved in Democratic politics doesn't know that.
Mon Mar 24, 2025, 07:36 PM
Mar 2025

What's "worse" about it?

You do understand the role of Minority Leader/Speaker, right?

writerJT

(467 posts)
36. Correct, but you'll get pushback
Tue Mar 25, 2025, 07:18 AM
Mar 2025

from folks who are more interested in being party lickspittles than advancing progressive policies. Notice you’re getting no substantive reasoning in response, but rather murky (but oddly confident) proclamations about roles.

Walleye

(44,604 posts)
51. "party lickspittles"?One thing you can count on with us Democrats. We always hold our internal disputes and family fight
Tue Mar 25, 2025, 10:55 AM
Mar 2025

In public. I don’t know why, it just makes us look bad, so we want to call each other names now?

mcar

(45,940 posts)
47. A. Leader Jeffries is not going to endorse a primary opponent
Tue Mar 25, 2025, 09:31 AM
Mar 2025

of a standing Congresswoman and it is ridiculous to think he would (or any Speaker or Minority Leader).

B. Who says this is a better candidate? I never heard of her until this OP and what I'm seeing doesn't indicate she is the better candidate.

lapucelle

(21,042 posts)
32. Why would anyone be looking for a rule about this in a document about parliamentary procedure from two Congresses ago?
Tue Mar 25, 2025, 06:02 AM
Mar 2025

The Minority Leader or Speaker provides campaign support to incumbents or Democratic candidates challenging Republicans. The goal is to protect and grow the size of the caucus.

Hakeem Jeffries (like Nancy Pelosi before him) understands the assignment.




writerJT

(467 posts)
34. That's on the Democrats' official website.
Tue Mar 25, 2025, 07:00 AM
Mar 2025

So it’s not in the rules, it’s just “understands the assignment”? There’s no official requirement, and not even a tradition, but rather (according to you) what holds them to the alleged responsibility to which you refer is just some fatuous, worn-out, unoriginal internet lingo about understanding the assignment.

Yes, I copied the wrong link. Guess what? Can’t find it here, either. https://www.dems.gov/rules-of-the-democratic-caucus

lapucelle

(21,042 posts)
37. That's still a link to parliamentary procedural rules.
Tue Mar 25, 2025, 07:36 AM
Mar 2025

Why would campaign strategy be governed by parliamentary procedure?

writerJT

(467 posts)
38. So you can't cite anything.
Tue Mar 25, 2025, 07:41 AM
Mar 2025

Any idea how your theory works when, for various reasons, the party hasn’t stood by incumbents? Some instances are obvious (corruption or the presence of allegations) but others involve electoral liabilities.

How do you think that happens when you’re confidently spouting here about some apparent obligation to support incumbents? Got anything?

lapucelle

(21,042 posts)
40. For anyone who does not know the assignment (much less understand it)
Tue Mar 25, 2025, 07:53 AM
Mar 2025

my advice is to pay attention during class.

Class occurs every two years during congressional primaries and general elections. The folks who pay attention know that the Democratic Speaker / Leader endorses every congressional Democrat, from the Blue Dogs to the Squad.

Anyone interested in extra credit on the assignment should work hard every year to ensure that Democrats are either elected to or remain in office.







writerJT

(467 posts)
41. Once again, no substance.
Tue Mar 25, 2025, 08:15 AM
Mar 2025

Is class still in session?



Let’s examine your statement:

“The folks who pay attention know that the Speaker Leader endorses every congressional Democrat, from the Blue Dogs to the Squad.”

In 2020 Rep. Dan Lipinski (D-IL) was the Incumbent seen as a Conservative Democrat (anti-abortion, anti-ACA expansion). Challenged by Marie Newman (a true progressive). The DCCC removed Lipinski from its "Red to Blue" program, effectively signaling he wasn’t their preferred candidate.
Pelosi endorsed and visited the districts of other less progressive incumbents but didn’t do the same for Lipinski. AOC endorsed Newman, to no pushback from leadership. Fellow incumbent Dems cancelled events with Lipinski, to no pushback from leadership. How does any of this fit with your claim that “The folks who pay attention know that the Speaker Leader endorses every congressional Democrat, from the Blue Dogs to the Squad.”

Let’s look at Rep. Carolyn Maloney vs. Jerry Nadler (D-NY) – 2022. Two Democrats forced into the same district. Pelosi, Schumer, and Hakeem Jeffries refused to endorse either, despite Maloney’s seniority.
The DCCC stayed neutral. How does any of this fit with your claim that “The folks who pay attention know that the Speaker Leader endorses every congressional Democrat, from the Blue Dogs to the Squad.”

2018, incumbent Rep. Michael Capuano vs. challenger Ayanna Pressley. The DCCC and Pelosi stayed completely neutral, refusing to spend resources to defend Capuano. How does any of this fit with your claim that “The folks who pay attention know that the Speaker Leader endorses every congressional Democrat, from the Blue Dogs to the Squad.”

We could also talk about the race with Jamaal Bowman, or the one with Cori Bush, or the one with…ah, never mind. Other people will get the point.

lapucelle

(21,042 posts)
42. Jeffries endorsed both Bowman and Bush in their primaries last year. N/T
Tue Mar 25, 2025, 08:32 AM
Mar 2025

You know that, right?

writerJT

(467 posts)
43. LOL
Tue Mar 25, 2025, 08:42 AM
Mar 2025

Obviously I’m referring to their initial races as challengers (in 2020) and what leadership and the DCCC didn’t do for the incumbents they unseated.

And of course you have no comment on the other examples.

You treated people in this thread like they didn’t know anything about this topic. The condescension was astounding, hence my replies. I think I’ve done enough to expose the truth here. Carry on.

lapucelle

(21,042 posts)
50. What do you think that leadership and the DCCC didn't do for incumbents 1n 2020?
Tue Mar 25, 2025, 10:47 AM
Mar 2025
The Bush-Clay rematch in Missouri’s 1st District is already enmeshed in a party fight over the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee’s controversial decision to support incumbents, like Clay, over challengers like Bush.

https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/illinois/wagner-and-clay-aggressively-fundraising-in-anticipation-of-2020-election-challenges/article_b12472a7-5b2c-5998-b42d-f063bcdd4602.html

Pelosi backs Engel ahead of tight New York primary

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/06/04/pelosi-engel-new-york-primary-301507

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So to review,

- campaign strategy is not governed by parliamentary rules of procedure
- the Democratic Leader/Speaker endorses incumbents as policy to protect and grow the caucus
- incumbents in 2020, 2022, and 2024 were all endorsed by House leadership

This must be really important to you for some reason, seeing that you've made so comments.

I read profiles.






writerJT

(467 posts)
35. You're good. It's not true.
Tue Mar 25, 2025, 07:08 AM
Mar 2025

There’s nothing in the caucus rules about it.

https://www.dems.gov/rules-of-the-democratic-caucus

And our enthusiastic resident parliamentarian here isn’t able to cite anything. Oh well.

 

HereForTheParty

(915 posts)
45. I guess the "everybody knows that" citation isn't terribly reliable
Tue Mar 25, 2025, 09:26 AM
Mar 2025

Thank you for hashing that out.

Response to tritsofme (Reply #4)

Torchlight

(6,755 posts)
5. Schakowsi is graded as a top progressive, in both votes as well as intent.
Mon Mar 24, 2025, 07:04 PM
Mar 2025

I'm not going to criticize anyone simply for not knowing who an up-and-comer who has only annoucned today. I certainly ain't gonna get into the useless jibber-jabber of age-talk, 'cause in that repect, they both represent opposite ends of the same damn coin.

lapucelle

(21,042 posts)
7. The Democratic Speaker/Minority Leader's endorsement always goes to the incumbent. Everybody knows that. N/T
Mon Mar 24, 2025, 07:27 PM
Mar 2025

JI7

(93,526 posts)
11. What's wrong with being 80 ? Is there an issue with how she votes ?
Mon Mar 24, 2025, 07:36 PM
Mar 2025

and where she stands in issues ?

W_HAMILTON

(10,313 posts)
28. The worrying part isn't Jeffries not knowing an internet celeb the day they declare they are running...
Mon Mar 24, 2025, 08:50 PM
Mar 2025

...the worrying part is some of those on the left willing to toss aside one of the strongest progressives in Congress because they don't know who Jan Schakowsky is.

mcar

(45,940 posts)
48. It's obviously ageism
Tue Mar 25, 2025, 09:33 AM
Mar 2025

and the usual far left kneejerk response to Democratic incumbents.

lapucelle

(21,042 posts)
21. This reminds me of the time when Olivia Nuzzi thought President Biden was supposed to know who she was.
Mon Mar 24, 2025, 08:00 PM
Mar 2025

And when PJB asked her for her name, the former minor/currently disgraced and unemployed reporter cited it as evidence of Biden's "mental decline" in a hit piece for New York Magazine.

muriel_volestrangler

(106,095 posts)
24. He didn't endorse, he said he wasn't aware of this challenge (launched today, it seems).
Mon Mar 24, 2025, 08:15 PM
Mar 2025

This would seem to be about Jan Schakowsky, not "Jan Schakow", so I'm not that keen on threads that supposedly don't know the incumbent.

greatauntoftriplets

(178,902 posts)
27. Jan Schakowsky was my representative for a long time.
Mon Mar 24, 2025, 08:46 PM
Mar 2025

She has a sterling record in the House, and if I still lived in that district, I'd vote for her again.

betsuni

(29,017 posts)
39. *lights hair on fire, screaming* THAT'S IT I'M NEVAR VOTING FOR A DEMOCRAT AGAIN IN PERPETUITY FOREVAR!!!11!!
Tue Mar 25, 2025, 07:49 AM
Mar 2025

Sarcasm Sarcasm

I guess that's supposed to be the expected reaction. Really rooting around the bottom of an empty dry old salted herring barrel to come up with anything to bash Democrats.

mcar

(45,940 posts)
49. Why the ageism?
Tue Mar 25, 2025, 09:35 AM
Mar 2025

The Congresswoman is a solid progressive Democrat. The challenger is an "influencer" who just announced her candidacy.

Why should Jeffries know anything about her?

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