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Proof that Concealed Carry permit holders live in a dream world. (Original Post) elleng Dec 2012 OP
And here is Part Two... Tx4obama Dec 2012 #1
Well. This certainly makes truth of the SheilaT Dec 2012 #2
Yes, sure does. elleng Dec 2012 #3
But, but, but.... nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #4
Someone on DU actually complained the students were set up to fail Fumesucker Dec 2012 #5
They were. How many people wear work gloves all the time? friendly_iconoclast Dec 2012 #6
I guess you missed the part where the firearms instructor shot himself in the foot in front of class Fumesucker Dec 2012 #7
There's a difference between dumbassery and cooking the video friendly_iconoclast Dec 2012 #10
They were. justanidea Dec 2012 #8
Yeah because a CC holder would never have any encumbrances in real life Fumesucker Dec 2012 #9
I could make a video showing just that- *if* I were allowed to dress the participants. friendly_iconoclast Dec 2012 #11
 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
2. Well. This certainly makes truth of the
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 03:04 AM
Dec 2012

fear that lots of armed civilians in a shoot-out isn't a very good idea.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
7. I guess you missed the part where the firearms instructor shot himself in the foot in front of class
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 04:49 AM
Dec 2012

Was he set up to fail too?

 

justanidea

(291 posts)
8. They were.
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 08:41 AM
Dec 2012

The shooter knew exactly where the student with the gun was.

They were also stuck wearing t-shirts 3 sizes too big, bulky gloves, and a bulky helmet.

Not a very realistic test at all.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
9. Yeah because a CC holder would never have any encumbrances in real life
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 10:45 AM
Dec 2012

They would always have their gun where it is easily and readily available, never wear loose clothes, would never be outside in cold weather, would never feel sub optimal and they would always be ready at a millisecond's notice to pull out their gun and do battle.

The excuses here are amazingly transparent, why can't people take the word of the firearms trainer that people without current crisis training are nearly worthless in a crisis situation?

 

friendly_iconoclast

(15,333 posts)
11. I could make a video showing just that- *if* I were allowed to dress the participants.
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 05:10 PM
Dec 2012

And it would equally unrealistic.

There's no guarantee that armed intervention would work, true- but stacking the deck
to make it fail is hardly 'proof'

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