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tulipsandroses

(7,232 posts)
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 12:25 PM Mar 26

Sigh. Pro Palestinian Protesters disrupt Democratic Townhall.

I'm all for free speech but, uhm why are you not showing up at republican gatherings? It perplexes me.


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Sigh. Pro Palestinian Protesters disrupt Democratic Townhall. (Original Post) tulipsandroses Mar 26 OP
Question AltairIV Mar 26 #1
That's my suspicion n/t Just_Vote_Dem Mar 26 #3
How would you be able to tell the difference? W_HAMILTON Mar 26 #5
... Think. Again. Mar 26 #7
ALL the leaders of the so-called pro-Palestine movement are Russian plants. yardwork Mar 26 #6
The disruptions, yes... Think. Again. Mar 26 #8
Yes, they were. AloeVera Mar 26 #13
Yep. In retrospect Just_Vote_Dem Mar 26 #14
The bombing was for the sake of destruction and revenge. AloeVera Mar 26 #16
Your demonizing Israelis without evidence. Mosby Mar 26 #21
Israel didn't have to destroy Gaza. It was a choice. AloeVera Mar 26 #38
Hamas (Gazans) didn't hafta murder thousands of Jews. BunkieBandit Mar 26 #39
War crimes are always a shock. AloeVera Mar 26 #40
Well said. Think. Again. Mar 26 #18
Sorry to disappoint you, but these protests were not about saving Palestinian lives. Beastly Boy Mar 26 #33
Surprise! Think. Again. Mar 26 #34
Was it sarcasm? Beastly Boy Mar 26 #35
Also about getting TRUMP elected. Which they helped to do quite handily. Are they happy now? Hekate Mar 26 #36
No, the Pro-Palestine demonstrations were about saving innocent, non-hamas Gaza lives... Think. Again. Mar 26 #37
That is simply complete BS al bupp Mar 26 #11
No, infiltrating legitimate protests.... Think. Again. Mar 26 #19
What you assert has certainly happened al bupp Mar 26 #25
I did mistakenly reply to you thinking you were calling MY post BS. My apologies. Think. Again. Mar 26 #26
No worries al bupp Mar 26 #30
With irony being that using absolutes often streamlines things for totalitarians. GreenWave Mar 26 #28
Good point al bupp Mar 26 #31
You know thats ridiculous right? Mosby Mar 26 #17
Yes, disrupters do that. Think. Again. Mar 26 #20
The identical consistency of messaging has been a tell since Oct 8. yardwork Mar 26 #23
I get your point, just don't agree. Mosby Mar 26 #24
Especially since right now we're the minority party Just_Vote_Dem Mar 26 #2
If they are legitimate pro-Palestinian protesters, they're barking up the wrong tree. kysrsoze Mar 26 #4
If they were legitimate Pro-Palistinian protesters... Think. Again. Mar 26 #9
Yes, sad if they are legit protestors and not Russian plants as some suspect. dutch777 Mar 26 #12
It was just a continuation... Think. Again. Mar 26 #22
Seems they don't understand the Dem party and Biden are not in charge anymore. brush Mar 26 #29
How do you know that they aren't? al bupp Mar 26 #10
Yes. They even have the right to be more upset if their concerns... AloeVera Mar 26 #15
The party needs to disavow these people RJ-MacReady Mar 26 #27
That's useful. BlueTsunami2018 Mar 26 #32
Turkish Phd student with a valid visa was detained by ice for her views on Gaza... NNguyenMD Mar 27 #41

W_HAMILTON

(8,985 posts)
5. How would you be able to tell the difference?
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 12:37 PM
Mar 26

PS - The Horseshoe Theory is very much a real thing

yardwork

(66,597 posts)
6. ALL the leaders of the so-called pro-Palestine movement are Russian plants.
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 12:39 PM
Mar 26

And the GOP is now synonymous with Russia, so, yes.

Anyone participating in these disruptions who isn't getting paid by Putin is volunteering for him, whether they know it or not.

From day one, the purpose of these disruptions was to get Trump back in the White House and keep the Democrats without power.

Think. Again.

(22,330 posts)
8. The disruptions, yes...
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 12:48 PM
Mar 26

...but the protests were about trying to save innocent, non-hamas, Gaza lives.

AloeVera

(2,701 posts)
13. Yes, they were.
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 01:12 PM
Mar 26

Thank you for pointing that out. The student protests and the millions protesting around the world were about saving innocent lives. But in order to acknowledge the justice and basic humanity of their cause, one has to be able to assign the same value to those innocent lives as the lives of those dropping and funding the bombs. It always saddens me that too many people still can't seem to be able to make that leap. But many others have come around at last and that's great to see!

Just_Vote_Dem

(3,272 posts)
14. Yep. In retrospect
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 01:18 PM
Mar 26

I think Israel should probably have used more snipers and tanks rather than the amount of bombing that was done, doing that could have saved more innocent lives. But 20/20 hindsight...

AloeVera

(2,701 posts)
16. The bombing was for the sake of destruction and revenge.
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 01:41 PM
Mar 26

And if innocents were killed in the process, it was not assigned much importance.

But the bombing had a very real purpose: to make Gaza uninhabitable so that the ethnic cleansing can be carried out under the guise of "voluntary emigration".

Which doesn't seem voluntary to me if the choice is between Leave or Die.

Besides, bombing results in far fewer - as in none- military casualties than solely a ground invasion.

Mosby

(18,490 posts)
21. Your demonizing Israelis without evidence.
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 01:53 PM
Mar 26

This could all have been avoided if Hamas released the hostages.

Even Gazans are saying this now.

They are fed up.






AloeVera

(2,701 posts)
38. Israel didn't have to destroy Gaza. It was a choice.
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 08:28 PM
Mar 26

Even Israel's staunchest supporters must realize that by now.

The evidence you claim I don't have is the destruction of Gaza for the whole world to see.

The anti-Hamas protests are irrelevant to Israel's guilt in its war conduct. To draw attention to the protests is just another deflection and attempt to rationalize that conduct.

BunkieBandit

(132 posts)
39. Hamas (Gazans) didn't hafta murder thousands of Jews.
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 08:52 PM
Mar 26

Even Hamas' staunchest supporters must realize that now. It should not be a shock to how the Israelis reacted. These are not 1937 Jews in Europe. Damn.

Beastly Boy

(12,273 posts)
33. Sorry to disappoint you, but these protests were not about saving Palestinian lives.
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 07:29 PM
Mar 26

Last edited Thu Mar 27, 2025, 09:41 AM - Edit history (1)

A child could understand this: without releasing all the hostages there would be no peace. Not after what Hamas has done.

And Hamas was counting on the said protesters to obscure this obvious truth. Mission accomplished.

It was all about bashing Israel, and the protesters, naively or cynically, ( it really doesn't matter which one is more true than the other), fell for it. Guess who suffered as a consequence (hint: not the protesters). The people of Gaza, unsophisticated as they are, understood this better than all the intellectuals bemoaning their fate put together. Now, thousands of them are out on the streets of Gaza demanding Hamas ouster (https://www.npr.org/2025/03/26/nx-s1-5340645/palestinians-protest-hamas-rule-in-gaza). And tens of thousands of Israelis are now out on the streets of Tel Aviv and Jerusalem demanding Netanyahu's ouster. (https://www.npr.org/2025/03/25/nx-s1-5339490/israel-protests-netanyahu-hostages-gaza-war).

There is a very easy way to find out what the protesters' real motivation is: Will they come out in support of the Palestinians who want Hamas gone and the war to end? Will they come out in support of the Israelis who want Netanyahu gone and the war to end?

Surprise me and tell me that they will.

Hekate

(97,642 posts)
36. Also about getting TRUMP elected. Which they helped to do quite handily. Are they happy now?
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 07:56 PM
Mar 26

Think. Again.

(22,330 posts)
37. No, the Pro-Palestine demonstrations were about saving innocent, non-hamas Gaza lives...
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 07:59 PM
Mar 26

...the rightwing infiltrators might have had other goals, especially if they knew how gullible and naive some of the public would be to fall for their instigations.

Think. Again.

(22,330 posts)
19. No, infiltrating legitimate protests....
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 01:51 PM
Mar 26

...to discredit them and turn naive public opinion against worthy causes is a decades old rightwing tactic.

al bupp

(2,456 posts)
25. What you assert has certainly happened
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 04:14 PM
Mar 26

However, I was replying to the comment the said that all the protest leaders of the pro-Palestine movement are Russian plants. That statement is simply false propaganda.

al bupp

(2,456 posts)
31. Good point
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 04:40 PM
Mar 26

Props for associating irony w/ totalitarianism the latter of which seems rarely ironic in it's own right, but when both are combined is also pretty ironic!

Mosby

(18,490 posts)
17. You know thats ridiculous right?
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 01:41 PM
Mar 26



Is she a Russian operative?

"Creating systemic barriers....to make it impossible for Zionists to function without consequence and confrontation".

That's exactly what that asswipe did in this town hall.

yardwork

(66,597 posts)
23. The identical consistency of messaging has been a tell since Oct 8.
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 02:47 PM
Mar 26

Simultaneous use of phrases, images, and graphics "spontaneously" breaking out worldwide the day after Hamas attacked.

Mosby

(18,490 posts)
24. I get your point, just don't agree.
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 02:54 PM
Mar 26

The consistency of the messaging was coming from CAIR, SJP, JVP and others, not Russia, though they could be playing a role, I don't know.

Just_Vote_Dem

(3,272 posts)
2. Especially since right now we're the minority party
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 12:27 PM
Mar 26

And can't affect any legislation that they want.

kysrsoze

(6,309 posts)
4. If they are legitimate pro-Palestinian protesters, they're barking up the wrong tree.
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 12:30 PM
Mar 26

I didn't like Biden's Israeli policies, but they should have known full well what was coming to them if they voted for President Assface. And now, for them to be protesting Dems, I only have one response...

Think. Again.

(22,330 posts)
9. If they were legitimate Pro-Palistinian protesters...
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 12:49 PM
Mar 26

...they wouldn't be wasting their time with this.

Think. Again.

(22,330 posts)
22. It was just a continuation...
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 01:54 PM
Mar 26

...of the rightwing attempt to make the Pro-Palestinians look bad to the gullible public.

brush

(59,885 posts)
29. Seems they don't understand the Dem party and Biden are not in charge anymore.
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 04:32 PM
Mar 26

They should be disrupting rethug townhalls...if they can find one where a Rep shows up.

I sympathize with their views on warmonger Netanyahu's continued bombing in Gaza but if their still blaming Biden and protesting against his backing of Israel, they're uniformed about how things work with a change in admins. Many foolishly backed trump in the election and he's way worse than Biden/Dem policies ever were.

They don't seem to know that yet. trump wants Gaza for free so he can develop seaside villa, resort hotels and golf courses...with the poor Palestinians in Gaza gone to who knows where.

al bupp

(2,456 posts)
10. How do you know that they aren't?
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 01:02 PM
Mar 26

It might be b/c the GOP has stopped having town halls. As for showing up at Dem gatherings, if it their rep, they have every right to make their views known and to disagree w/ the rep.

AloeVera

(2,701 posts)
15. Yes. They even have the right to be more upset if their concerns...
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 01:29 PM
Mar 26

...are brushed off or ignored. Or if they are condescended to or subject to non-answers and their feelings trivialized. Not saying that happened here - I don't know- but it's been the pattern.

RJ-MacReady

(521 posts)
27. The party needs to disavow these people
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 04:22 PM
Mar 26

They have shown they are not allies nor should we even try to placate them.

BlueTsunami2018

(4,363 posts)
32. That's useful.
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 04:42 PM
Mar 26

Being that we have zero power right now.

Are these people stupid or just astroturfers?

NNguyenMD

(1,319 posts)
41. Turkish Phd student with a valid visa was detained by ice for her views on Gaza...
Thu Mar 27, 2025, 02:05 AM
Mar 27

That’s something worthy of protesting a Republican Trifecta government for

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