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CousinIT

(12,899 posts)
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 11:46 PM Mar 2025

SHitler is ordering Social Security to STOP sending paper checks...

SHitler is ordering Social Security to STOP sending paper checks, which will result in a half million people NOT getting their payments: https://www.axios.com/2025/03/26/trump-social-security-paper-checks-direct-deposit

Nearly half a million Americans will be affected by President Trump's order that will cease Social Security payments by paper check.

Why it matters: The switch risks disrupting the financial lives of some of the most vulnerable Americans, at a time when Social Security is cutting back services to help them.

Driving the news: The federal government must stop issuing paper checks by Sept. 30 in favor of direct deposit, prepaid cards, or "other digital payment options," per an order Trump signed yesterday.

The move is part of a broader White House effort against what it considers government waste, fraud and abuse.

The order includes language allowing for "limited exceptions," including for people without bank accounts.

By the numbers: Nearly 456,000 Americans are still receiving paper Social Security checks as of March, per Social Security Administration data.

That's about 0.7% of the approximately 68.2 million total recipients.

What they're saying: "The continued use of paper-based payments ... imposes unnecessary costs; delays; and risks of fraud, lost payments, theft, and inefficiencies," per Trump's order.

"Maintaining the physical infrastructure and specialized technology for digitizing paper records cost the American taxpayer over $657 million in Fiscal Year 2024 alone."
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SHitler is ordering Social Security to STOP sending paper checks... (Original Post) CousinIT Mar 2025 OP
How much JBTaurus83 Mar 2025 #1
Not good, I hope it gets nixed Meowmee Mar 2025 #2
And they will all have to go, IN PERSON, to an office intrepidity Mar 2025 #3
Many poor people can't open bank accounts if they have poor credit. kerry-is-my-prez Mar 2025 #4
Those without bank accounts are told to use "DirectExpress" debit card: CousinIT Mar 2025 #6
He'll have dweller Mar 2025 #5
There will be several crypto options RazorbackExpat Mar 2025 #12
Personally, I think tRump Seinan Sensei Mar 2025 #24
He is giving notice, guess we should be thankful. If they do it right -- which is a big "if" with trump-- Silent Type Mar 2025 #7
Cutting off phone services right now when those people will need help with the transition is evil though. CousinIT Mar 2025 #8
Read an hour or so ago that they are modifying their earlier phone service BS. Will have to see it, though. Silent Type Mar 2025 #9
It is almost like they don't have a clue what they are doing exboyfil Mar 2025 #27
He is trying to make sdfernando Mar 2025 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author vapor2 Mar 2025 #20
And skip an opportunity to add his signature to the checks? question everything Mar 2025 #10
I thought checks had long since been eradicated already synni Mar 2025 #11
So.... William Gustafson Mar 2025 #13
I heard if you need to change bank info you have to show up in person Skittles Mar 2025 #14
It is also possible that those receiving paper checks taxi Mar 2025 #15
Prepaid cards charge a fee pfitz59 Mar 2025 #16
Without paper, there is no paper trail. AmericaUnderSiege Mar 2025 #17
This day it's paper checks BidenRocks Mar 2025 #19
CALL republicans re: social security vapor2 Mar 2025 #21
511.org CousinIT Mar 2025 #29
First the in-person verification bullshit, now this. They are trying everything they can think of to kill off SS without Karasu Mar 2025 #22
Wait! He said he'd pay Elon with a check for a tesla: WATCH IcyPeas Mar 2025 #23
That last line is a totally BS excuse. eppur_se_muova Mar 2025 #25
Thanks for beating me to it, lol. ms liberty Mar 2025 #28
Right. Based on current numbers, they are printing less than 6 million SS checks a year Wiz Imp Mar 2025 #31
Yeah, digitizing paper records has zero to do with printing checks. yellowcanine Mar 2025 #32
actually the mail delivery would be a non trivial cost dsc Mar 2025 #36
Those numbers sound like they were pulled out of Donny's fat ass. progressoid Mar 2025 #26
More likely pulled out of Musk's ass. yellowcanine Mar 2025 #33
That's kind of what I was trying to say. :) eppur_se_muova Mar 2025 #34
Debit cards are bullshit. I don't see how they are safer yellowcanine Mar 2025 #30
Debit cards usually carry fees -- issuers will profit. eppur_se_muova Mar 2025 #35

Meowmee

(9,212 posts)
2. Not good, I hope it gets nixed
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 11:51 PM
Mar 2025

I had planned to do that. I guess a separate stand alone bank account is the way to go if this happens.

intrepidity

(8,602 posts)
3. And they will all have to go, IN PERSON, to an office
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 11:52 PM
Mar 2025

(if they can find one) to update their payment info.

RazorbackExpat

(1,002 posts)
12. There will be several crypto options
Thu Mar 27, 2025, 12:22 AM
Mar 2025

Last edited Thu Mar 27, 2025, 01:42 AM - Edit history (1)

$trumpcoin, $melaniacoin, $muskcoin, $vancecoin, $dogecoin, $666coin, etc.

 

Silent Type

(12,412 posts)
7. He is giving notice, guess we should be thankful. If they do it right -- which is a big "if" with trump--
Thu Mar 27, 2025, 12:05 AM
Mar 2025

SSA could make that work in that they mentioned prepaid cards, etc., for everyone.

If properly implemented, with steps to insure no one is adversely impacted, it makes sense.

CousinIT

(12,899 posts)
8. Cutting off phone services right now when those people will need help with the transition is evil though.
Thu Mar 27, 2025, 12:10 AM
Mar 2025

Dumbasses.

They do mention debit cards that are replenished every month for those without bank accounts: https://www.ssa.gov/deposit/howtosign.htm

 

Silent Type

(12,412 posts)
9. Read an hour or so ago that they are modifying their earlier phone service BS. Will have to see it, though.
Thu Mar 27, 2025, 12:13 AM
Mar 2025

exboyfil

(18,378 posts)
27. It is almost like they don't have a clue what they are doing
Thu Mar 27, 2025, 04:19 PM
Mar 2025

And instead of this fiat by a date that is very close, a better approach would be a transition period. First checks are no longer an option for new recipients and then a small reward for converting to direct deposit.

sdfernando

(6,139 posts)
18. He is trying to make
Thu Mar 27, 2025, 01:17 AM
Mar 2025

SS unworkable….singe can say “See it doesn’t work!” So he can privatize it….like his handlers have trying to get at for decades.

Response to sdfernando (Reply #18)

synni

(798 posts)
11. I thought checks had long since been eradicated already
Thu Mar 27, 2025, 12:17 AM
Mar 2025

When my mom retired in 1999, she had to receive her checks via direct deposit. When I was accepted for SSI last year, I wasn't allowed to receive checks, either.

I'm surprised that anyone still receives checks, esp. as unreliable as DeJoy's USPS has been lately....

William Gustafson

(566 posts)
13. So....
Thu Mar 27, 2025, 12:44 AM
Mar 2025

He closes offices... shuts down the phone centers... has a skeleton crew left... and now they are stopping sending a paper check?...
Guess when you have to call to change your banking information, there will be no one to call and no place to go...

How is this bettering the program?... answer... It doesn't!! and thousands of people will be in the SSI trap of unable to get any help...

Skittles

(173,621 posts)
14. I heard if you need to change bank info you have to show up in person
Thu Mar 27, 2025, 12:54 AM
Mar 2025

yes, they are aiming to break SS

taxi

(2,775 posts)
15. It is also possible that those receiving paper checks
Thu Mar 27, 2025, 01:00 AM
Mar 2025

may not have credit or debit cards, or even transportation. A family member may be depositing the check in their own account because the payer cannot leave the residence. Any items needed by the payee are obtained by giving cash to someone in order for them to make the purchase. In these cases a debit card does not good. The grocery store may know the buyer is using someone else's card and refuse the transaction. Vendors at farmers markets generally take cash. Those unscrupulous people who prey on the downtrodden may charge a little bit extra to 'offset their risks'. Like all things republican it's never about improving things from the bottom up.

 

AmericaUnderSiege

(777 posts)
17. Without paper, there is no paper trail.
Thu Mar 27, 2025, 01:16 AM
Mar 2025

"We already gave it to you." "No, you didn't." "Yes, we did. Says right here on Notepad... (types furiously)...see?"

BidenRocks

(3,645 posts)
19. This day it's paper checks
Thu Mar 27, 2025, 01:20 AM
Mar 2025

Tomorrow he will order us into the metric system.
2.2 pounds in a kilo

Karasu

(2,314 posts)
22. First the in-person verification bullshit, now this. They are trying everything they can think of to kill off SS without
Thu Mar 27, 2025, 01:37 AM
Mar 2025

having DOGE do it.

IcyPeas

(25,979 posts)
23. Wait! He said he'd pay Elon with a check for a tesla: WATCH
Thu Mar 27, 2025, 02:30 AM
Mar 2025

Watch the first 10 seconds !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



eppur_se_muova

(42,907 posts)
25. That last line is a totally BS excuse.
Thu Mar 27, 2025, 04:00 PM
Mar 2025

All SS checks are produced BY COMPUTER and printing the checks is only the last step -- the digital record is ALREADY in the computer system. The incremental cost is minimal; computers have been doing this for over seven decades.

The huge figure for "digitizing paper records" refers to old records -- birth certificates, contracts, maps, etc. that were ORIGINALLY produced on paper ONLY and are now being scanned into a digital format. That has NOTHING TO DO with the cost of printing SS checks. It's a pathetically implausible fig leaf of an excuse.

Wiz Imp

(10,806 posts)
31. Right. Based on current numbers, they are printing less than 6 million SS checks a year
Thu Mar 27, 2025, 04:51 PM
Mar 2025

How much could that possibly cost? Well under a million dollars for sure.

yellowcanine

(36,886 posts)
32. Yeah, digitizing paper records has zero to do with printing checks.
Thu Mar 27, 2025, 04:53 PM
Mar 2025

This was pulled right out of Musk’s ass.

dsc

(53,458 posts)
36. actually the mail delivery would be a non trivial cost
Thu Mar 27, 2025, 05:14 PM
Mar 2025

it would be a dollar so per check.

yellowcanine

(36,886 posts)
33. More likely pulled out of Musk's ass.
Thu Mar 27, 2025, 04:56 PM
Mar 2025

Donny doesn’t know any of this shit, he is listening to Musk.

yellowcanine

(36,886 posts)
30. Debit cards are bullshit. I don't see how they are safer
Thu Mar 27, 2025, 04:49 PM
Mar 2025

Than paper checks. This dicking around with SS is a huge unforced error by Trump. People are nervous and don’t trust Trump or Musk to reform SS. This one issue is going to sink Republicans in special elections and in 2026.

eppur_se_muova

(42,907 posts)
35. Debit cards usually carry fees -- issuers will profit.
Thu Mar 27, 2025, 05:08 PM
Mar 2025

That's one reason why Uglicans are trying to force gov't to use cards for everything.

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