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madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 03:56 AM Dec 2012

Chained CPI is stealth cut to Social Security benefits. Not acceptable.

How the Chained CPI is a stealth cut to Social Security benefits

The Center for Economic Policy Research (CEPR) has published a brief on one of the proposed changes to Social Security under the “fiscal cliff” deal – this one known as the “Chained CPI.” The Chained CPI is a bit complex, but here’s the bottom line: it would cut benefits for Social Security recipients by shrinking annual cost-of-living adjustments.

CEPR calculates that it would equal a 3% benefit cut over 10 years, a 6% benefit cut over 20 years, and 9% after 30 years. For the average worker retiring at age 65, this would mean a cut of about $650 each year by age 75 and a cut of roughly $1,130 each year at age 85. This is especially significant given 3-out-of-5 seniors rely on Social Security for more than half of their income.

Some argue the Chained CPI is a more accurate calculation of inflation, but this is not the case for seniors. As we reported in an earlier post, seniors tend to spend more money on health insurance, hospitals, prescription drugs, and nursing care – expenses that are not taken into account by the current CPI calculation. The Bureau of Labor Statistics, which manages the CPI indices, has created an experimental index called the CPI-Elderly, which more accurately reflects the costs faced by seniors. The CPI-Elderly shows a rate of inflation about 0.3% higher than the current CPI calculation.

CEPR also reports the Chained CPI amount to a stealth tax increase on all Americans, but especially those at middle and lower incomes: “For example, workers with incomes between $10,000 and $20,000 would experience an increased tax burden of 14.5 percent, while those with incomes over $1,000,000 would just see an increase of 0.1 percent.”


This is the deal on the table right now, offered by Obama.

It is wrong.
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Chained CPI is stealth cut to Social Security benefits. Not acceptable. (Original Post) madfloridian Dec 2012 OP
Any links available that confirm Summer Hathaway Dec 2012 #1
Yes. madfloridian Dec 2012 #8
Of course it is. They've been screwing with the CPI to hold down benefit increases for decades Egalitarian Thug Dec 2012 #2
kr. as another poster said, it's not even a measure of inflation, it's a measure of how consumers HiPointDem Dec 2012 #3
Exactly. A benefits cut. madfloridian Dec 2012 #9
I went on SS disability this yr. at 55. AnnieK401 Dec 2012 #4
Oh, much lower. They can cheerfully plan this while eating filet mignon, too. At our expense. djean111 Dec 2012 #6
This would be a sellout of our victory at the polls Babel_17 Dec 2012 #5
Seems all good cop bad cop to me. aandegoons Dec 2012 #7
'This is the deal on the table right now, offered by Obama'. ....not true spanone Dec 2012 #10
Yes, it is true. From last December: madfloridian Oct 2013 #12
Tweet him here: @ChrisVanHollen Triana Oct 2013 #11
 

Egalitarian Thug

(12,448 posts)
2. Of course it is. They've been screwing with the CPI to hold down benefit increases for decades
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 05:02 AM
Dec 2012

but now they really need to allow inflation to return in order to keep the fraudulent financial charade going and that's a problem because it would mean poor and old people getting more money.

So this is their solution, instead of raising benefits by the 3 tenths that reflect real costs, chain the people's benefits to a fictitious index that cuts their benefits by 2 tenths.
& R

 

HiPointDem

(20,729 posts)
3. kr. as another poster said, it's not even a measure of inflation, it's a measure of how consumers
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 05:27 AM
Dec 2012

react to inflation.

it's just a benefits cut, pure & simple.

AnnieK401

(541 posts)
4. I went on SS disability this yr. at 55.
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 06:04 AM
Dec 2012

My cost of living increase for next yr. was $20 per month!hat's $240 pr. yr. How much lower can they go?

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
6. Oh, much lower. They can cheerfully plan this while eating filet mignon, too. At our expense.
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 06:57 AM
Dec 2012

Chained CPI - as I understand it - if decent beef is on the list of things considered for inflation, well, beef can be replaced with cheaper beef. Cheaper beef can be replaced with cheaper chicken (still protein, you know!). And then cheaper chicken (when the necks become too expensive, I assume) can be replaced with the equivalent of canned cat food. Thus the "Cat Food Commission".
Maybe they can borrow an existing list of how many calories will stave off outright starvation from some other country.

If Obama agrees that the current rate of COLA for Social Security is too high - well, I will just go quietly from political forums and such.
I hadn't really considered what voting for a lesser evil meant. Shrug.

(edited because proper spelling is always nice.)

Babel_17

(5,400 posts)
5. This would be a sellout of our victory at the polls
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 06:47 AM
Dec 2012

Democratic legislators need to dig in their heels and loudly repeat their opposition to this.

aandegoons

(473 posts)
7. Seems all good cop bad cop to me.
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 07:00 AM
Dec 2012

We cannot win in this light. The two party system is a failure and really needs to be changed.

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