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Another wingnutty conservative showing they have no sense of shame whatsoever:

This morning Christian radio host James Dobson cut through all the gun control and mental health talk to get to what truly lies at the heart of last weeks tragic shooting at a Connecticut elementary school: abortion and gay marriage. Dobson used the shooting to declare that the United States is in complete disarray, connecting it to abortion and the perceived threat to the institution of marriage.
Dobson said that the shooting happened because God is punishing the United States because so many people have turned their backs on him.I mean millions of people have decided that God doesnt exist, or hes irrelevant to me and we have killed fifty-four million babies and the institution of marriage is right on the verge of a complete redefinition. Believe me, that is going to have consequences too.
And a lot of these things are happening around us, and somebody is going to get mad at me for saying what I am about to say right now, but I am going to give you my honest opinion: I think we have turned our back on the Scripture and on God Almighty and I think he has allowed judgment to fall upon us. I think thats whats going on.
http://www.mediaite.com/online/james-dobson-finds-a-way-to-connect-ct-shooting-to-abortion-and-gay-marriage/
leftofcool
(19,460 posts)people loke him are the really dangerous , mentally nut cases .
Left Coast2020
(2,397 posts)....he should move to......Mexico. The weather is nicer, and its not that expensive. Plus we won't have to listen to his BS. Or we could flood him with letters stating he leave the country if its too gay for him. China could be an option for him too. Wide selection of Chinese restaurants to choose from.
SammyWinstonJack
(44,316 posts)So according to these religious con men, 'God' allowed babies to be slaughtered because same sex couples want to marry or because some people aren't believers or on and on and on.... I mean, really?
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)This "God" character is all kinds of fucked-up from the get go, so it's no surprise that some who devote their lives to the character end up pretty low on the ethical scale themselves.
Imagine a world where people revered Quentin Tarentino as an infallible creator-being.
There you go.
Mel Content
(123 posts)well...none, actually.
BUT-
that's not what the christian people are supposed to believe- they are supposed to worship a "loving god" who actually did commit atrocious mass murder of innocent children.
how fucked up is that...?
mwb970
(12,150 posts)Every time right-wing religious nuts knowingly tell us what "God wants" or what "God believes", it is ALWAYS a right-wing, Rush-approved policy or attitude.
The right-wing God hates gays. He hates blacks. He hates liberals. He loves war. He wants money taken from poor people and given to the super-rich. He hates unions and wants unlimited gun availability. He wants women to be subjugated and have no rights.
In other words, their God is a right-wing jerk. Heartless, soulless, and cruel. And they WORSHIP this monster they have made up!
Sick, sick, sick.
jmowreader
(53,194 posts)Go back and read your Bible again.
If you do something even slightly outside God's rules, He brings a giant shitstorm down upon your head immediately.
If you follow God's Word to the letter, something nice might happen to you...but you have to die before that happens. Oh, but you can't actually follow his word to the letter but that's okay, if you join our little club God quits giving a shit about what you do.(On edit: Because Dubya Bush believes in God he's going to heaven and you are to ignore the very long trail of bodies he left behind him because to point out Dubya gives Joseph Kony a run for his money wouldn't be Christian.)
My two favorite stories are the Ark of the Covenant and Job. The Ark is somewhat sick: God told his people not to touch the box with the Ten Commandments tablets in it. Then he sent them down the worst road in the Middle East. One guy put his hand on the box to keep it in the wagon, and God whacked him for it. This story teaches us we must follow God's orders no matter what. Remember that next time you're on a mountain road and God tells you to go straight when the road turns left.
The story of Job is truly sick: Job, an honorable man, had his life destroyed by God to prove to the Devil the truly brainwashed will retain their programming.
mwb970
(12,150 posts)While looking into whether gods of other religions are equally malevolent after reading your comment, I came across this entry in "TV Tropes", a wiki that is a "catalog of the tricks of the trade for writing fiction". Interesting stuff, with some historical info at the end.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/GodIsEvil
Bohunk68
(1,455 posts)Because after all the shit happened, G-d rewarded him BIG TIME. Job 42:10-17 (NRSV):" And the Lord restored the fortunes of Job when he had prayed for his friends; and the Lord gave Job twice as much as he had before. Then there came to him all his brothers and sisters and all who had known him before, and they ate bread with him in his house; they showed him sympathy and comforted him for all the evil that the Lord had brought upon him; and each of them gave him a piece of money and a gold ring. The Lord blessed the latter days of Job more than his beginning; and he had fourteen thousand sheep, six thousand camels, a thousand yoke of oxen, and a thousand donkeys. He also had seven sons and three daughters. He named the first Jemimah, the second Keziah, and the third Keren-happuch. In all the land there were no women so beautiful as Job's daughters; and their father gave them an inheritance along with their brothers. After this Job lived one hundred and forty years, and saw his children, and his children's children, four generations. And Job died old and full of days."
That being said, for Dobson, roll out the 1792 French Solution. Madame DeFarge! Oh, Madame DeFarge!! We have a front row seat reserved for you. Bring knitting, this may take awhile to get all of them. Dobson and others of his ilk totally trash the Christianity of the Gospels and serve to bring hatred down on Christians of the Left. Like a lot of the comments made on this thread.
radhika
(1,008 posts)that are dedicated to such a right-wing sociopath god.
Seriously, how is 'the devil' different than Dobson's god?
Owl
(3,768 posts)tclambert
(11,193 posts)and various fat blowhards on radio and Fox News. Oh Lord, what have we done to deserve such torment? When will it be enough? Why don't you go pick on the Dutch for awhile?
Maybe He's punishing us for being too tolerant of bigotry.
Thor_MN
(11,843 posts)shenmue
(38,598 posts)Demons will play soccer with this guy's head.
aandegoons
(473 posts)It had to be something really bad.
WiffenPoof
(2,404 posts)...why Christians are baffled as to why they are scorned by men of reason.
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)Adenoid_Hynkel
(14,093 posts)Isn't Dobson basically saying "Gawd damn America" here?
Expect Sean Hannity to get outraged over his pal James' words a week from never.
LuvNewcastle
(17,821 posts)Why aren't RWers saying that Dobson and his allies are part of the blame America first crowd?
rl6214
(8,142 posts)AngryOldDem
(14,180 posts)I'm not by any stretch a religious (or even spiritual) person, but even I have a very hard time believing that any supreme being would be so cruel and vindictive. As usual, not one word about the true cause: People and their goddamned guns.
And, he even managed to bring abortion into the mix!
These preachers need to take their old time religion and shove it straight up their asses. There. I said it.
coalition_unwilling
(14,180 posts)and children of Jericho after the walls came a-tumblin' down.
No word on whether Joshua carried out "God's will" with gusto or with a heavy heart (as if it really matters).
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)is a bloodthirsty, psychopathic monster worthy of nothing but scorn and total rejection by any sane human being.
JHB
(38,213 posts)...why do you worship such a being? If what you say is true, then it is your moral duty to "turn your back" on him.
Or is it just because he's God the Almighty, more powerful than anything else, so what he says goes? And it's the power you worship, no matter how it's used?
theHandpuppet
(19,964 posts)RedCappedBandit
(5,514 posts)Makes no sense to worship the god these people believe exists.
napkinz
(17,199 posts)
Philosoraptor
(15,019 posts)Every damn disaster is blamed on our ignoring this angry, conceited god.
Morganfleeman
(117 posts)The "prophet" Elisha in the Old Testament when he was a child was approached by a bunch of youths who mocked him calling him a "baldhead". Well Elisha was having none of that so he cursed these unsuspecting kids in the name of god. God then proceeds to send two bears to maul the several dozen kids.
With stories like that in the Bible, is there any wonder that cretans like Dobson can say what they say with a straight face?
treestar
(82,383 posts)They are proving themselves to be evil fools.
Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)malaise
(296,114 posts)Fuck that snake oil salesman who has cashed in on superstition, ignorance and fear
Dirty Socialist
(3,252 posts)Dobson must live in another universe.
sakabatou
(46,148 posts)could all move to another planet.
ck4829
(37,761 posts)There are children killing other children or being killed in the Lord's Resistance Army; does Dobson have an answer for that one?
the_chinuk
(332 posts)Botany
(77,324 posts)From Wiki
Dobson published a "Letter from 2012 in Obama's America" that proposed that an Obama presidency would lead to: mandated homosexual teachings across all schools; the banning of firearms in entire states; the end of the Boy Scouts, home schooling, Christian school groups, Christian adoption agencies, and talk radio; pornography on prime-time and daytime television; mandatory bonuses for gay soldiers; terrorist attacks across America; the nuclear bombing of Tel Aviv; the conquering of most of Eastern Europe by Russia; the end of health care for Americans over 80; out-of-control gasoline prices; and complete economic disaster in the United States, among other catastrophes.
jmowreader
(53,194 posts)Would this country really be worse off if Pigboy was manning the grill at the Cape Girardeau Jack in the Box?
Paladin
(32,354 posts)A small, hateful, vindictive god (with a small "g"
BeyondGeography
(41,101 posts)It's so confusing.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)ck4829
(37,761 posts)On a side note, the liberal media must have clearly fabricated the Bath School Disaster or the dozens of spree shootings that occurred in the time before we incurred God's judgment, right?
bobclark86
(1,415 posts)On Dec. 30, 1974, a kid brought a hunting rifle to school, set off a smoke bomb, and then killed three people while wounding 11 others from a third-floor window (including someone driving their car down the street... a horrible, horrible person, but I must say that was an impressive shot on par with Oswald). Most of the people injured were firefighters there to snuff out the smoke bomb.
He later hanged himself by his underwear in the Cattaraugus County Jail, thus saving the taxpayers in the county and state from paying for his prison sentence, as well as the families from having to deal with this fucker's parole hearings.
Yup, that gay marriage in New York was totally the trigger... not some nutjob with a rifle, but gay marriage 39 years later.
Fucking bastard (the kid I talked about here and Mr. Dobson).
marmar
(79,739 posts)I'm surprised it took this freak as long as it did.
SummerSnow
(12,608 posts)OK imagine this washstand is preaching this crap and I emerge up to the microphone and ask him..
"If what you say is true, why God didn't send the shooter to the abortion clinic "?
*crickets*
*boos and hissing from the crowd *
*sounds of me getting dragged out and beaten by the wingnuts*
Arkansas Granny
(32,265 posts)If you can say that it's "Gawd's will", or that he allows these horrible actions, that pretty much makes the shooter an instrument of god, in their minds. What a sick and twisted individual he is.
47of74
(18,470 posts)spanone
(141,616 posts)Aristus
(72,187 posts)Let's bring them back. God obviously approves of them...
Vogon_Glory
(10,297 posts)With filth like this spewing out of Preacher Dobson's mouth, is it any wonder that people are repelled by and not attracted to Christianity, Christian, and prayer?
Furthermore, many of us have noticed the cozy political ties between the Evangelical Right, the so-called "Conservative Movement" and the National Rifle Association. Is it any wonder that so many of us are inclined to believe that people like Preacher Dobson are Hell-bound hypocrites.
rwsanders
(3,180 posts)I didn't realize how much the Christian Right was FOR the Vietnam war. Jim was banned from Wheaton University because of his opposition. Something is wrong with these people:
http://sojo.net/blogs/2012/10/25/george-mcgovern-i-remember/#disqus_thread
Vogon_Glory
(10,297 posts)With crap like this spewing forth from so-called "men of God," I can't help but wonder if some High Priest justified King Herod's massacre of the innocents because the locals had allegedly turned away from God.
MurrayDelph
(5,752 posts)that God didn't make Man in his image, but the other way around.
olegramps
(8,200 posts)yardwork
(69,364 posts)It's obviously a ploy to distract people from the actual problem. Blaming video games and "the mentally ill" is an equally reprehensible attempt at distraction.
Arkana
(24,347 posts)reserved for him when he finally dies.
He is a cold, unfeeling monster.
coalition_unwilling
(14,180 posts)Christianity: Sending telepathic messages to a Jewish ghost letting him know that you will accept him as your master and ask him to remove a magical curse that was passed down to you because a woman who was made from the rib of her partner ate a piece of magical fruit from a magical tree because a talking snake told her to.
Riii-ght!
Ask me again why I'm an atheist.
Throckmorton
(3,579 posts)it wasn't a talking snake, it was a "Magical Talking Snake".
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)Ikonoklast
(23,973 posts)Cough up, suckers!
-Every Member Of The Second Oldest Profession.
joeybee12
(56,177 posts)hamsterjill
(17,577 posts)It never ceases to astound me how these hypocrites use anything and everything to promote their hatred of any segment of society that dares to be different from them. Dares to not fall right in line with their tyrranical beliefs and outbursts.
That said, I am a believer. And my God was in that school. He was there in the hearts of those teachers who saved the children they were able to save. He was there with the little boy who ran past the shooter and survived. He was there with the brave principal who confronted the shooter.
Why did He allow the shooting to happen? I don't know the answer to that. Mock me for that if you like.
Do you have to believe like I do? Heck no. I'm comfortable with every person having their own faith, or having no faith. It is an individual's choice, and I hope DU will respect my choice to believe. No one has to be a mirror image of me for me to call that person "friend".
But I marvel at those "believers" like Dobson who say God was not in that school. To me, THEY are the ones who have no faith in what they believe.
dynasaw
(999 posts)dembotoz
(16,922 posts)BigDemVoter
(4,700 posts)What kind of nut would accept a god who punishes little babies for others' "sins" (and please note that I use the word "sin" as that ass wipe Dodson did--not that I believe it).
Sheesh. Disgusting. Slime bucket, Shit hole. . .
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)This time last cycle, Rick Warren was calling gay people pedophiles and such and that got him named 'America's Minister' and lots of honor from the OFA people. I wonder when Dobson will be officially announced to appear at this one?
DisgustipatedinCA
(12,530 posts)SemperEadem
(8,053 posts)why worship something mean and vindictive?
No, a mentally impaired young man who went to public and Catholic schools before being home schooled and raised in a house hold full of guns took out his frustration with his life on his mother and 27 other people.
that same god, according to dobson's own religious dogma, gave man the right to choose. What is the point of punishing when we supposedly have free will? dobson's argument is stupid and vapid on its face.
what do 20 innocent children have to do with abortion and gay marriage? Nothing. Not a god damned thing.
both dobson and suckabee are dancing on the graves of little children for attention. Plain and simple.
backscatter712
(26,357 posts)KansDem
(28,498 posts)I swear, some Christians aren't happy unless they're bitching and moaning about something...
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)generally looking for someone to persecute.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Thus leading to "Survivalists" filling their basements with AR-15s.
Rambis
(7,774 posts)in the "wrong" part of town? There have to be male companions out there because no one this anti gay, unless?
Laochtine
(394 posts)and the tears of their parents, can you sink any lower? I'm almost afraid to ask. At least shit gives back, you are a worthless
bag of garbage wrapped in skin.
CarmanK
(662 posts)kentuck
(115,407 posts)that you would accuse him/her of such a heinous act...
AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)fixed that for you.
wake.up.america
(3,334 posts)TlalocW
(15,675 posts)It had something about the slaughter of Native Americans and God doing nothing and then something about abortion or gays and God getting pissed. It was wonderfully snarky.
TlalocW
FiveGoodMen
(20,018 posts)GOD. DAMN. JAMES. DOBSON.
valerief
(53,235 posts)And all those 6-year-old boys showing each other their wee-wees. Why, of course, the loving Lord had to have them slaughtered.
Damn, I hate religion.
Harry Monroe
(2,935 posts)Adults are talking here!! And no, you do not get a seat at the table of rational discussion of this issue. BTW, do these assholes actually think they are helping their cause when they make idiotic statements like this? This has got to be one of the most ignorant motherfuckers on the planet Earth!
forestpath
(3,102 posts)ReRe
(12,189 posts)That is either zealotry or insanity or both.
demwing
(16,916 posts)I spit in his face
Initech
(108,783 posts)Atypical Liberal
(5,412 posts)AntiFascist
(13,751 posts)by the way, former Nazi Youth Pope Benedict recently remarked that gay marriage is a threat to world peace. Who knew?
frylock
(34,825 posts)cheapdate
(3,811 posts)Redfairen
(1,276 posts)SHRED
(28,136 posts)coljam
(188 posts)this jagoff.
If what he says is true why doesnt he just pray the gay away.Better yet if god doesnt like gays ...why did he make them.
This god shit has got to stop.
alfredo
(60,301 posts)
Pakid
(478 posts)and stay there!
surrealAmerican
(11,879 posts)... god allowing abortion and gay marriage because of school shootings.
Why would we be punished for abortion, and not be punished for mass murders?
toby jo
(1,269 posts)If he's just another right-wing hate radio dude, it's par for the course.
I've been thinking lately we need to stop the hate speech, it underlies all this, but how? Don't know.
Lucky Luciano
(11,863 posts)Aviation Pro
(15,578 posts)...little sack of shit.
DallasNE
(8,008 posts)That is the takeaway from what Dobson just said. He will take the lives of 6 and 7 year old children should you cross Him in his teachings. Next time it may be a nursery school if you don't shape up. That is al Qaeda territory. With "friends" like Dobson, who needs enemies.
leftlibdem420
(256 posts)There were school massacres long before abortion was legal and long before our LGBT compatriots were even treated as human beings, let alone being able to marry.
drynberg
(1,648 posts)You are disgraceful. STFU!
tclambert
(11,193 posts)drm604
(16,230 posts)He's giving permission to people to commit slaughter by telling them that it's God's will. Isn't this criminal incitement? I wish some DA would test that.
sulphurdunn
(6,891 posts)that we should not cast things of value to pigs. Dobson is a spiritual pig in every sense of the word. He should be rendered into media bacon, not given a forum to squeal his demonic madness.
Whovian
(2,866 posts)when he took the tower in Austin Tx back in '66?
And then in '73 when RVW passed did the viet Nam war start to wind down and come to an end with the beginning of America's exit strategy?
richmwill
(1,326 posts)...Is that really what this idiot is trying to say??? What a "loving" God you preach of, Dobson.
defacto7
(14,162 posts)lunasun
(21,646 posts)Death over gay love or women's rights ?
What draws them to pray to him and praise him???
cheriemedium59
(212 posts)These right wing wackos are themselves dangerous weapons. I mean really?
So glad I am a liberal progressive with a brain...
mwooldri
(10,818 posts)Story: http://www.aljazeera.com/news/africa/2012/10/2012102894721308691.html
Did God allow this to happen to his people in his house? And this is not the only incident. There have been growing tensions between the people of Islamic faith in northern Nigeria and those of Christian faith for quite some time - as well as economic and racial differences.
Moostache
(11,179 posts)Dobson is same asshole who preached about the value in beating your kids too isn't he?
I am still horrified by what happened to those little children and their teachers. The slaughter of innocents and the scarring for life of survivors is evil in a way that no sane or caring person can ever understand...but this fuckwad, bible-thumping assclown, he has the inside track from "gawd".
What really makes me sick is that I would trade his life for any one of the victims from any of the shootings we have had in the last few years and it would not take me a millisecond of thinking about it - it would be a reflex reaction. We have all these guns and an apparent surplus of mentally disturbed people to get their hands on them, yet none of these shooters think it would be a bigger story to off a few Christian hate mongers instead of killing children in schools, or at a supermarket to meet a Congresswoman, or at a movie theater to see Batman?
Gun violence is an awful thing, but I cannot help myself...at this point, I wish the morons like Dobson who seek to tie everything to their narrow and pathetic interpretation of reality would find themselves the targets more often than the adjudicators of these kind of tragedies. Maybe a good old fashion gun fight at the "Love Me Some Jeebus, Hates Me some Gayz" rally would change his opinion of what is REALLY to blame.
If the bullshit that he spews is "gawd's" plan in any way, shape or form, then count me out and count me out of that kind of "heaven" as well. I can't think of anything worse than spending time with Dobson or his bigoted, hateful ilk...unless it was spending eternity with them.
Skittles
(171,716 posts)the world will surely improve
Mnemosyne
(21,363 posts)gtar100
(4,192 posts)But of course, that's not true and it's Dobson who is a total asshole.
NYtoBush-Drop Dead
(490 posts)Then needs to be hog - tied and drug through the town square.
DearHeart
(692 posts)Why do they get a public platform to spew their bullshit and hatred??? Sick to death of this!!
Hulk
(6,699 posts)...the dick head who wanted to publicly burn the Koran. The same clown that pickets funeral services of military personnel killed in action. What a shameless son of a bitch.
Pretzel_Warrior
(8,361 posts)And cast into the ocean according to his Bible.
Dobson is proof there is no God.
King_Klonopin
(1,379 posts)We should avoid conflating fools like Dobson with a God of any definition.
He shows no signs that God is in him.
He uses God as a prop.
He uses Biblical verses to rationalize his hatred and anger.
He wants God to speak for him, not vice versa.
I would tell him that, yes, I agree that God might be punishing us.
And that I agree that God might be angry because we have failed
to drive out the evil from our midst.
But "the evil" that we tolerate is embodied in his wingnut conservatism --
the gun-worshiping, war-mongering, hate-filled, death-merchant type --
and those conservatives who attempt to sell us the Satanic lie that,
"guns = peace, security, safety, and freedom."' You are the reason,
Mr. Dobson, that violence flourishes.
Guns = Death. More Guns = More Death.
What can I do when your right to spray bullets from guns abridges
my right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness? Is the answer
really that much of a conundrum ??
The right to swing your fist should end where my nose begins
rtassi
(629 posts)gordianot
(15,772 posts)They do not have the nerve to make this view public nor withstand the pushback if they did with full support of Phelps and his family.
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)Taverner
(55,476 posts)gopiscrap
(24,733 posts)fucking Christo-fascist asswiping moron.
Still Blue in PDX
(1,999 posts)Embarrasses me that I used to be a Christian and listened to Focus on the Family.
Now it embarrasses me that any Christian would listen to this creep.
McCamy Taylor
(19,240 posts)It's hard to follow the thinking fundies.
Deep13
(39,157 posts)Rex
(65,616 posts)organized religions a bad name. So hard to accept legitimacy when global trotting charlatans spout hate and more hate.
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)religion because of god damn fools like him!
mzmolly
(52,793 posts)If anyone who believed in God, has lost faith in a higher power, it's because of people like him.
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)taught, the devil comes in many forms. And hence we can see this in Dobson and the damn fools like him. Who, wants to associate with or have anything to do with ... or respect ... a damn fool like Dobson and their belief system. Well, enter the Phelps family of westboro baptist church.
rwsanders
(3,180 posts)I know he has supposedly "retired" from Focus on the Family, but I still think his money comes from there. I really hate this group.
Just so you know, I'm a white male, evangelical christian, military, but I despise this group almost as much as Westboro Baptist Church. I won't go into the whys right now, but my wife and I discovered something interesting a while back (my angry letters to them got me on the mailing list). Their website has items 'for sale' for a 'suggested donation'. If you are careful with the checkout, you can change the amount to something small like $1.
We did this and were able to get 3-4 copies of the movie Narnia before they cut us off. But if many do it, it would have a big impact. We wanted the movies, but it wouldn't matter if you threw the stuff away. We picked such a small amount because even the shipping cost them more. We wanted to be sure they LOST money on the transaction.
nruthie
(466 posts)My dog is more of a Christian than this piece of garbage.
WeekendWarrior
(1,437 posts)cliffordu
(30,994 posts)James Dobson.
Who has probably killed more people than that fucking scumbag that shot those babies and their teachers.
krhines
(115 posts)What explanation do these fundamentalist have for countries that are not and have never been "Christian Nation" (Even though we never have been, but for the sake of argument) like Japan for example. Why don't they have all these crazy killings happening every couple of months. They clearly have turned their backs on God?