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Adenoid_Hynkel

(14,093 posts)
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 06:26 AM Dec 2012

James Dobson: God allowed school shooting because of abortion and gay marriage

Another wingnutty conservative showing they have no sense of shame whatsoever:



This morning Christian radio host James Dobson cut through all the gun control and mental health talk to get to what truly lies at the heart of last week’s tragic shooting at a Connecticut elementary school: abortion and gay marriage. Dobson used the shooting to declare that the United States is in “complete disarray,” connecting it to abortion and the perceived threat to the institution of marriage.

Dobson said that the shooting happened because God is punishing the United States because so many people have turned their backs on him.

“I mean millions of people have decided that God doesn’t exist, or he’s irrelevant to me and we have killed fifty-four million babies and the institution of marriage is right on the verge of a complete redefinition. Believe me, that is going to have consequences too.

And a lot of these things are happening around us, and somebody is going to get mad at me for saying what I am about to say right now, but I am going to give you my honest opinion: I think we have turned our back on the Scripture and on God Almighty and I think he has allowed judgment to fall upon us. I think that’s what’s going on.

http://www.mediaite.com/online/james-dobson-finds-a-way-to-connect-ct-shooting-to-abortion-and-gay-marriage/
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James Dobson: God allowed school shooting because of abortion and gay marriage (Original Post) Adenoid_Hynkel Dec 2012 OP
I expected nothing less from this wingnut leftofcool Dec 2012 #1
wingnut kardonb Dec 2012 #123
If he thinks the country is in disaray.... Left Coast2020 Dec 2012 #135
Who knew? 'God' certainly is mean/vindictive. SammyWinstonJack Dec 2012 #2
Well, look what he did to Egypt, after all Scootaloo Dec 2012 #7
how many innocent Egyptian first-born male children did god slaughter? Mel Content Dec 2012 #116
Their "God" is a right-wing sociopath. mwb970 Dec 2012 #25
Now, now...everyone's god is a right wing sociopath jmowreader Dec 2012 #71
Check this out! mwb970 Dec 2012 #84
You need to finish reading Job. Bohunk68 Dec 2012 #103
All the more reason to eliminate Tax Exemptions from churches ... radhika Dec 2012 #81
So true. And people admire and listen to this Dobson clown? Owl Dec 2012 #98
He sure is. He punished us by giving us Dobson and Pat Robertson and the Westboro Baptist Church tclambert Dec 2012 #94
A veritable plague of Rightwing Assholes... Thor_MN Dec 2012 #96
As Mike Malloy sometimes says... shenmue Dec 2012 #3
I want to know what the heck we did wrong to get Dobson. aandegoons Dec 2012 #4
I'm Constantly Amazed... WiffenPoof Dec 2012 #5
Same here! The loonies rise to the top it appears. n/t RKP5637 Dec 2012 #129
BTW, shouldn't the media give this guy the same coverage they did for Rev. Wright? Adenoid_Hynkel Dec 2012 #6
Excellent point LuvNewcastle Dec 2012 #10
Sounds like the Westboro baptist morons rl6214 Dec 2012 #8
So, God gets pissed and takes it out on 6-and 7-year-olds. AngryOldDem Dec 2012 #9
The Old Testament God instructed Joshua to kill all the women coalition_unwilling Dec 2012 #41
The gawd of the old testament hifiguy Dec 2012 #61
A simple question for Dobson and those like him: If that's true... JHB Dec 2012 #11
This pretty much sums it up for me theHandpuppet Dec 2012 #19
Always wondered the same thing. RedCappedBandit Dec 2012 #100
hey Dobson! napkinz Dec 2012 #12
Can't they come up with any new theories? Philosoraptor Dec 2012 #13
Not surprising, one particular story in the Bible comes to mind. Morganfleeman Dec 2012 #14
Do these morons even realize what they are saying? treestar Dec 2012 #15
What a fucked up god that jerk believes in. Warren Stupidity Dec 2012 #16
If there were a gawd he's have taken ouot Dobson years ago malaise Dec 2012 #17
That's Not My God Dirty Socialist Dec 2012 #18
I wish all of these right-wing religious leaders sakabatou Dec 2012 #20
Funny, there are no abortions and gays can be imprisoned in Uganda, but yet... ck4829 Dec 2012 #21
I think, when he was a young student, his teachers decided to train him wrong ... as a joke. Ha, ha. the_chinuk Dec 2012 #22
So the shooter was acting as God's agent by killing little kids and their teachers? Botany Dec 2012 #23
Some of those things would be bad? jmowreader Dec 2012 #72
Just Another Sick Fundy, Remaking God In His Own Image. Paladin Dec 2012 #24
I thought that's why 9/11 happened BeyondGeography Dec 2012 #26
Technically, 9-11 was due to "pagans, abortionists, feminists, gays and lesbians" Warren DeMontague Dec 2012 #137
Hey, does anyone remember magical barriers preventing shootings before Roe v Wade or gay rights? ck4829 Dec 2012 #27
Ask the people in Olean NY about their shooting... bobclark86 Dec 2012 #82
Right on cue....the Talibangelicals slither out of their holes. marmar Dec 2012 #28
I like to ask Mr. Dobson a question .. SummerSnow Dec 2012 #29
It's almost like they are giving some demented person an excuse to go on a killing spree. Arkansas Granny Dec 2012 #30
God, what a fuckstick. 47of74 Dec 2012 #31
dobson is to christianity as faux is to news spanone Dec 2012 #32
You know, I noticed there were no gun massacres back when we had slavery and child labor. Aristus Dec 2012 #33
With Filth Like This Spewing Out Of Preacher Dobson's Mouth Vogon_Glory Dec 2012 #34
I agree. I just read a post by Jim Wallis about George McGovern... rwsanders Dec 2012 #133
With Crap Like This Spewing Forth, I Can't Help But Wonder If Vogon_Glory Dec 2012 #35
He's an example of the the argument MurrayDelph Dec 2012 #36
God made man in his image and man returned the compliment. olegramps Dec 2012 #47
I wonder how much the NRA pays Dobson and the others to say these things. yardwork Dec 2012 #37
This man has a special place in the deepest, darkest, coldest circle of Hell Arkana Dec 2012 #38
Ask me why I'm an atheist: coalition_unwilling Dec 2012 #39
I have to disagree with you here, Throckmorton Dec 2012 #45
+ a brazilian. hifiguy Dec 2012 #62
God also needs your money so He has a nice place to live. Ikonoklast Dec 2012 #65
He's scum...knr joeybee12 Dec 2012 #40
Un-effin-believeable...well, almost. hamsterjill Dec 2012 #42
this mac56 Dec 2012 #66
here's someone who is truly mentally ill dynasaw Dec 2012 #43
boy able must have been a really perverted guy because god let cain kill him dembotoz Dec 2012 #44
IF this were true. . . BigDemVoter Dec 2012 #46
Has he been invited to the Inaugural yet? Sounds like he's vying for a slot. Bluenorthwest Dec 2012 #48
God slaughters children when he's upset. Got it. Fuck off, Dobson. n/t DisgustipatedinCA Dec 2012 #49
well, then... there goes a good reason to worship him, huh? SemperEadem Dec 2012 #50
Dobson is truly a subhuman reptile. n/t backscatter712 Dec 2012 #51
Not this shit again! KansDem Dec 2012 #52
... or persecuting someone. It's an old timeless story. IMO Christians ... and all religious are RKP5637 Dec 2012 #130
No, it's because RW assholes like you have spread crazy fucking anti-government paranoid bargle. Warren DeMontague Dec 2012 #53
When will this guy get picked up Rambis Dec 2012 #54
Feeding on the blood of babies Laochtine Dec 2012 #55
disgusting, why would you give this NUT CASE spewing HATE, space on this media? CarmanK Dec 2012 #56
God is not happy, Mr Dobson... kentuck Dec 2012 #57
"This morning Christian Hate radio host James Dobson" AtheistCrusader Dec 2012 #58
James Dobson is a dangerous fool. His type of thinking is warped. wake.up.america Dec 2012 #59
Anyone have that image TlalocW Dec 2012 #60
Every fucking preacher: "God killed the innocent because the rest of us weren't big enough bullies!" FiveGoodMen Dec 2012 #63
He's got a point. All those 6-year-old girls having all those abortions. valerief Dec 2012 #64
Hey Dobson, please shut the fuck up!! Harry Monroe Dec 2012 #67
He and his God are a couple of sick fucks. forestpath Dec 2012 #68
That is not religion.... ReRe Dec 2012 #69
Fucking evil subhuman wallowing in his own power lust demwing Dec 2012 #70
Furthers my theory that modern conservativism is a complete lack of empathy. Initech Dec 2012 #73
Makes me sick. n/t Atypical Liberal Dec 2012 #74
Expected from this fool... AntiFascist Dec 2012 #75
any "god" worth a damn would have struck down this shit lump long ago frylock Dec 2012 #76
That's not religion, that's extortion. cheapdate Dec 2012 #77
He's only hurting his own cause. Let him rant. Turn up his microphone. ** Redfairen Dec 2012 #78
Dobson is a shit for brains thug SHRED Dec 2012 #79
Why would anyone give money to coljam Dec 2012 #80
He needs a visit from Krampus, one of Santa's helpers alfredo Dec 2012 #83
Crawl back under your rock Dobson Pakid Dec 2012 #85
This makes almost as much sense as ... surrealAmerican Dec 2012 #86
If this guy is a legitimate preacher, they should have some kind of mental health standard in play toby jo Dec 2012 #87
Wow, god is a fucking asshole. nt Lucky Luciano Dec 2012 #88
What a sad, sad.... Aviation Pro Dec 2012 #89
The Lord Has No Mercy DallasNE Dec 2012 #90
Bullshit. leftlibdem420 Dec 2012 #91
Hey Dobson drynberg Dec 2012 #92
Then why don't they have mass murders in Amsterdam? tclambert Dec 2012 #93
The man is a psychopathic asshole. drm604 Dec 2012 #95
Scripture states sulphurdunn Dec 2012 #97
Why did God allow Charles Whitman to kill 16 and wound 32 before Roe v Wade and gay marriage Whovian Dec 2012 #99
So your God murders 20 children as anger-filled revenge because people don't like him?... richmwill Dec 2012 #101
Another soapbox for another idiot. defacto7 Dec 2012 #102
Why must he and others worship this terrible entity who killed those kids and teachers? lunasun Dec 2012 #104
f*&^%$#idiot! cheriemedium59 Dec 2012 #105
So what did he say about the church bombing in Kaduna (Nigeria) ? mwooldri Dec 2012 #106
FUCK him and his "god"....that's one petty, sickly excuse for a deity. Moostache Dec 2012 #107
will people like him ever become extinct? Skittles Dec 2012 #108
Some people brighten the world when they arrive, others when they depart. :) nt Mnemosyne Dec 2012 #113
If that's true, then God is a total asshole. gtar100 Dec 2012 #109
This tool needs to lose his 501-C3 status... NYtoBush-Drop Dead Dec 2012 #110
These people are just a gigantic bunch of whackjobs!!! DearHeart Dec 2012 #111
This screwball is as wierd as that clown from FL... Hulk Dec 2012 #112
Dobson stumbled me from Christianity. Therefore, he will have a mill stone hung round his neck Pretzel_Warrior Dec 2012 #114
This jackass does not speak for God. King_Klonopin Dec 2012 #115
James Who? n/t rtassi Dec 2012 #117
I am convinced that many of these RW fundamentalist agree with the Westboro Baptist Church crowd gordianot Dec 2012 #118
Yes, I think that's quite true! n/t RKP5637 Dec 2012 #131
What a fucker Taverner Dec 2012 #119
James Dobson has been, is and will always be a gopiscrap Dec 2012 #120
It's always about reproductive organs with these people, isn't it? Still Blue in PDX Dec 2012 #121
God punished the kids because they were neither aborted nor the product of married gay sex? McCamy Taylor Dec 2012 #122
So what sin caused God to allow James Dobson? nt Deep13 Dec 2012 #124
It is insane religious leaders like this that gives all Rex Dec 2012 #125
And, what fools like Dobson can't comprehend is that people turn their backs on RKP5637 Dec 2012 #126
I hate that SOB. mzmolly Dec 2012 #127
Dobson, is the personification of evilness. To frame it in christian lingo as I was RKP5637 Dec 2012 #128
Want to know a way to help get rid of this guy? rwsanders Dec 2012 #132
What an ignorant freak. nruthie Dec 2012 #134
Yes, of course, because God would do that. WeekendWarrior Dec 2012 #136
God allowed that tragedy because we have not necklaced cliffordu Dec 2012 #138
My Question Is krhines Dec 2012 #139

Left Coast2020

(2,397 posts)
135. If he thinks the country is in disaray....
Thu Dec 20, 2012, 03:44 AM
Dec 2012

....he should move to......Mexico. The weather is nicer, and its not that expensive. Plus we won't have to listen to his BS. Or we could flood him with letters stating he leave the country if its too gay for him. China could be an option for him too. Wide selection of Chinese restaurants to choose from.

SammyWinstonJack

(44,316 posts)
2. Who knew? 'God' certainly is mean/vindictive.
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 06:51 AM
Dec 2012

So according to these religious con men, 'God' allowed babies to be slaughtered because same sex couples want to marry or because some people aren't believers or on and on and on.... I mean, really?

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
7. Well, look what he did to Egypt, after all
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 07:15 AM
Dec 2012

This "God" character is all kinds of fucked-up from the get go, so it's no surprise that some who devote their lives to the character end up pretty low on the ethical scale themselves.

Imagine a world where people revered Quentin Tarentino as an infallible creator-being.

There you go.

 

Mel Content

(123 posts)
116. how many innocent Egyptian first-born male children did god slaughter?
Wed Dec 19, 2012, 05:41 AM
Dec 2012

well...none, actually.

BUT-
that's not what the christian people are supposed to believe- they are supposed to worship a "loving god" who actually did commit atrocious mass murder of innocent children.

how fucked up is that...?

mwb970

(12,150 posts)
25. Their "God" is a right-wing sociopath.
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 09:23 AM
Dec 2012

Every time right-wing religious nuts knowingly tell us what "God wants" or what "God believes", it is ALWAYS a right-wing, Rush-approved policy or attitude.

The right-wing God hates gays. He hates blacks. He hates liberals. He loves war. He wants money taken from poor people and given to the super-rich. He hates unions and wants unlimited gun availability. He wants women to be subjugated and have no rights.

In other words, their God is a right-wing jerk. Heartless, soulless, and cruel. And they WORSHIP this monster they have made up!

Sick, sick, sick.

jmowreader

(53,194 posts)
71. Now, now...everyone's god is a right wing sociopath
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 03:26 PM
Dec 2012

Go back and read your Bible again.

If you do something even slightly outside God's rules, He brings a giant shitstorm down upon your head immediately.

If you follow God's Word to the letter, something nice might happen to you...but you have to die before that happens. Oh, but you can't actually follow his word to the letter but that's okay, if you join our little club God quits giving a shit about what you do.(On edit: Because Dubya Bush believes in God he's going to heaven and you are to ignore the very long trail of bodies he left behind him because to point out Dubya gives Joseph Kony a run for his money wouldn't be Christian.)

My two favorite stories are the Ark of the Covenant and Job. The Ark is somewhat sick: God told his people not to touch the box with the Ten Commandments tablets in it. Then he sent them down the worst road in the Middle East. One guy put his hand on the box to keep it in the wagon, and God whacked him for it. This story teaches us we must follow God's orders no matter what. Remember that next time you're on a mountain road and God tells you to go straight when the road turns left.

The story of Job is truly sick: Job, an honorable man, had his life destroyed by God to prove to the Devil the truly brainwashed will retain their programming.

mwb970

(12,150 posts)
84. Check this out!
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 05:21 PM
Dec 2012

While looking into whether gods of other religions are equally malevolent after reading your comment, I came across this entry in "TV Tropes", a wiki that is a "catalog of the tricks of the trade for writing fiction". Interesting stuff, with some historical info at the end.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/GodIsEvil

Bohunk68

(1,455 posts)
103. You need to finish reading Job.
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 10:00 PM
Dec 2012

Because after all the shit happened, G-d rewarded him BIG TIME. Job 42:10-17 (NRSV):" And the Lord restored the fortunes of Job when he had prayed for his friends; and the Lord gave Job twice as much as he had before. Then there came to him all his brothers and sisters and all who had known him before, and they ate bread with him in his house; they showed him sympathy and comforted him for all the evil that the Lord had brought upon him; and each of them gave him a piece of money and a gold ring. The Lord blessed the latter days of Job more than his beginning; and he had fourteen thousand sheep, six thousand camels, a thousand yoke of oxen, and a thousand donkeys. He also had seven sons and three daughters. He named the first Jemimah, the second Keziah, and the third Keren-happuch. In all the land there were no women so beautiful as Job's daughters; and their father gave them an inheritance along with their brothers. After this Job lived one hundred and forty years, and saw his children, and his children's children, four generations. And Job died old and full of days."

That being said, for Dobson, roll out the 1792 French Solution. Madame DeFarge! Oh, Madame DeFarge!! We have a front row seat reserved for you. Bring knitting, this may take awhile to get all of them. Dobson and others of his ilk totally trash the Christianity of the Gospels and serve to bring hatred down on Christians of the Left. Like a lot of the comments made on this thread.

radhika

(1,008 posts)
81. All the more reason to eliminate Tax Exemptions from churches ...
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 04:38 PM
Dec 2012

that are dedicated to such a right-wing sociopath god.

Seriously, how is 'the devil' different than Dobson's god?

tclambert

(11,193 posts)
94. He sure is. He punished us by giving us Dobson and Pat Robertson and the Westboro Baptist Church
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 07:19 PM
Dec 2012

and various fat blowhards on radio and Fox News. Oh Lord, what have we done to deserve such torment? When will it be enough? Why don't you go pick on the Dutch for awhile?

Maybe He's punishing us for being too tolerant of bigotry.

WiffenPoof

(2,404 posts)
5. I'm Constantly Amazed...
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 07:01 AM
Dec 2012

...why Christians are baffled as to why they are scorned by men of reason.

 

Adenoid_Hynkel

(14,093 posts)
6. BTW, shouldn't the media give this guy the same coverage they did for Rev. Wright?
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 07:13 AM
Dec 2012

Isn't Dobson basically saying "Gawd damn America" here?
Expect Sean Hannity to get outraged over his pal James' words a week from never.

LuvNewcastle

(17,821 posts)
10. Excellent point
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 07:37 AM
Dec 2012

Why aren't RWers saying that Dobson and his allies are part of the blame America first crowd?

AngryOldDem

(14,180 posts)
9. So, God gets pissed and takes it out on 6-and 7-year-olds.
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 07:34 AM
Dec 2012

I'm not by any stretch a religious (or even spiritual) person, but even I have a very hard time believing that any supreme being would be so cruel and vindictive. As usual, not one word about the true cause: People and their goddamned guns.

And, he even managed to bring abortion into the mix!

These preachers need to take their old time religion and shove it straight up their asses. There. I said it.

 

coalition_unwilling

(14,180 posts)
41. The Old Testament God instructed Joshua to kill all the women
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 12:13 PM
Dec 2012

and children of Jericho after the walls came a-tumblin' down.

No word on whether Joshua carried out "God's will" with gusto or with a heavy heart (as if it really matters).

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
61. The gawd of the old testament
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 02:03 PM
Dec 2012

is a bloodthirsty, psychopathic monster worthy of nothing but scorn and total rejection by any sane human being.

JHB

(38,213 posts)
11. A simple question for Dobson and those like him: If that's true...
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 07:47 AM
Dec 2012

...why do you worship such a being? If what you say is true, then it is your moral duty to "turn your back" on him.

Or is it just because he's God the Almighty, more powerful than anything else, so what he says goes? And it's the power you worship, no matter how it's used?

RedCappedBandit

(5,514 posts)
100. Always wondered the same thing.
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 09:00 PM
Dec 2012

Makes no sense to worship the god these people believe exists.

Philosoraptor

(15,019 posts)
13. Can't they come up with any new theories?
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 07:59 AM
Dec 2012

Every damn disaster is blamed on our ignoring this angry, conceited god.

Morganfleeman

(117 posts)
14. Not surprising, one particular story in the Bible comes to mind.
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 08:11 AM
Dec 2012

The "prophet" Elisha in the Old Testament when he was a child was approached by a bunch of youths who mocked him calling him a "baldhead". Well Elisha was having none of that so he cursed these unsuspecting kids in the name of god. God then proceeds to send two bears to maul the several dozen kids.

With stories like that in the Bible, is there any wonder that cretans like Dobson can say what they say with a straight face?

treestar

(82,383 posts)
15. Do these morons even realize what they are saying?
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 08:45 AM
Dec 2012

They are proving themselves to be evil fools.

malaise

(296,114 posts)
17. If there were a gawd he's have taken ouot Dobson years ago
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 08:50 AM
Dec 2012

Fuck that snake oil salesman who has cashed in on superstition, ignorance and fear

ck4829

(37,761 posts)
21. Funny, there are no abortions and gays can be imprisoned in Uganda, but yet...
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 09:06 AM
Dec 2012

There are children killing other children or being killed in the Lord's Resistance Army; does Dobson have an answer for that one?

the_chinuk

(332 posts)
22. I think, when he was a young student, his teachers decided to train him wrong ... as a joke. Ha, ha.
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 09:13 AM
Dec 2012

Botany

(77,324 posts)
23. So the shooter was acting as God's agent by killing little kids and their teachers?
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 09:15 AM
Dec 2012

From Wiki

Dobson published a "Letter from 2012 in Obama's America" that proposed that an Obama presidency would lead to: mandated homosexual teachings across all schools; the banning of firearms in entire states; the end of the Boy Scouts, home schooling, Christian school groups, Christian adoption agencies, and talk radio; pornography on prime-time and daytime television; mandatory bonuses for gay soldiers; terrorist attacks across America; the nuclear bombing of Tel Aviv; the conquering of most of Eastern Europe by Russia; the end of health care for Americans over 80; out-of-control gasoline prices; and complete economic disaster in the United States, among other catastrophes.

jmowreader

(53,194 posts)
72. Some of those things would be bad?
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 03:37 PM
Dec 2012

Would this country really be worse off if Pigboy was manning the grill at the Cape Girardeau Jack in the Box?

 

Paladin

(32,354 posts)
24. Just Another Sick Fundy, Remaking God In His Own Image.
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 09:19 AM
Dec 2012

A small, hateful, vindictive god (with a small "g&quot . Hey, Dobson: You're making a lot more money off your version of god, but my God is still better than yours........

ck4829

(37,761 posts)
27. Hey, does anyone remember magical barriers preventing shootings before Roe v Wade or gay rights?
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 09:29 AM
Dec 2012

On a side note, the liberal media must have clearly fabricated the Bath School Disaster or the dozens of spree shootings that occurred in the time before we incurred God's judgment, right?

bobclark86

(1,415 posts)
82. Ask the people in Olean NY about their shooting...
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 04:41 PM
Dec 2012

On Dec. 30, 1974, a kid brought a hunting rifle to school, set off a smoke bomb, and then killed three people while wounding 11 others from a third-floor window (including someone driving their car down the street... a horrible, horrible person, but I must say that was an impressive shot on par with Oswald). Most of the people injured were firefighters there to snuff out the smoke bomb.

He later hanged himself by his underwear in the Cattaraugus County Jail, thus saving the taxpayers in the county and state from paying for his prison sentence, as well as the families from having to deal with this fucker's parole hearings.

Yup, that gay marriage in New York was totally the trigger... not some nutjob with a rifle, but gay marriage 39 years later.

Fucking bastard (the kid I talked about here and Mr. Dobson).

marmar

(79,739 posts)
28. Right on cue....the Talibangelicals slither out of their holes.
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 09:35 AM
Dec 2012

I'm surprised it took this freak as long as it did.


SummerSnow

(12,608 posts)
29. I like to ask Mr. Dobson a question ..
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 09:36 AM
Dec 2012

OK imagine this washstand is preaching this crap and I emerge up to the microphone and ask him..

"If what you say is true, why God didn't send the shooter to the abortion clinic "?

*crickets*

*boos and hissing from the crowd *

*sounds of me getting dragged out and beaten by the wingnuts*

Arkansas Granny

(32,265 posts)
30. It's almost like they are giving some demented person an excuse to go on a killing spree.
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 09:52 AM
Dec 2012

If you can say that it's "Gawd's will", or that he allows these horrible actions, that pretty much makes the shooter an instrument of god, in their minds. What a sick and twisted individual he is.

Aristus

(72,187 posts)
33. You know, I noticed there were no gun massacres back when we had slavery and child labor.
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 11:45 AM
Dec 2012

Let's bring them back. God obviously approves of them...



Vogon_Glory

(10,297 posts)
34. With Filth Like This Spewing Out Of Preacher Dobson's Mouth
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 11:59 AM
Dec 2012

With filth like this spewing out of Preacher Dobson's mouth, is it any wonder that people are repelled by and not attracted to Christianity, Christian, and prayer?

Furthermore, many of us have noticed the cozy political ties between the Evangelical Right, the so-called "Conservative Movement" and the National Rifle Association. Is it any wonder that so many of us are inclined to believe that people like Preacher Dobson are Hell-bound hypocrites.

rwsanders

(3,180 posts)
133. I agree. I just read a post by Jim Wallis about George McGovern...
Thu Dec 20, 2012, 12:47 AM
Dec 2012

I didn't realize how much the Christian Right was FOR the Vietnam war. Jim was banned from Wheaton University because of his opposition. Something is wrong with these people:
http://sojo.net/blogs/2012/10/25/george-mcgovern-i-remember/#disqus_thread

Vogon_Glory

(10,297 posts)
35. With Crap Like This Spewing Forth, I Can't Help But Wonder If
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 12:01 PM
Dec 2012

With crap like this spewing forth from so-called "men of God," I can't help but wonder if some High Priest justified King Herod's massacre of the innocents because the locals had allegedly turned away from God.

MurrayDelph

(5,752 posts)
36. He's an example of the the argument
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 12:03 PM
Dec 2012

that God didn't make Man in his image, but the other way around.

yardwork

(69,364 posts)
37. I wonder how much the NRA pays Dobson and the others to say these things.
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 12:08 PM
Dec 2012

It's obviously a ploy to distract people from the actual problem. Blaming video games and "the mentally ill" is an equally reprehensible attempt at distraction.

Arkana

(24,347 posts)
38. This man has a special place in the deepest, darkest, coldest circle of Hell
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 12:09 PM
Dec 2012

reserved for him when he finally dies.

He is a cold, unfeeling monster.

 

coalition_unwilling

(14,180 posts)
39. Ask me why I'm an atheist:
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 12:10 PM
Dec 2012

Christianity: Sending telepathic messages to a Jewish ghost letting him know that you will accept him as your master and ask him to remove a magical curse that was passed down to you because a woman who was made from the rib of her partner ate a piece of magical fruit from a magical tree because a talking snake told her to.

Riii-ght!

Ask me again why I'm an atheist.

Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
65. God also needs your money so He has a nice place to live.
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 02:40 PM
Dec 2012

Cough up, suckers!

-Every Member Of The Second Oldest Profession.

hamsterjill

(17,577 posts)
42. Un-effin-believeable...well, almost.
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 12:13 PM
Dec 2012

It never ceases to astound me how these hypocrites use anything and everything to promote their hatred of any segment of society that dares to be different from them. Dares to not fall right in line with their tyrranical beliefs and outbursts.

That said, I am a believer. And my God was in that school. He was there in the hearts of those teachers who saved the children they were able to save. He was there with the little boy who ran past the shooter and survived. He was there with the brave principal who confronted the shooter.

Why did He allow the shooting to happen? I don't know the answer to that. Mock me for that if you like.

Do you have to believe like I do? Heck no. I'm comfortable with every person having their own faith, or having no faith. It is an individual's choice, and I hope DU will respect my choice to believe. No one has to be a mirror image of me for me to call that person "friend".

But I marvel at those "believers" like Dobson who say God was not in that school. To me, THEY are the ones who have no faith in what they believe.

BigDemVoter

(4,700 posts)
46. IF this were true. . .
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 12:34 PM
Dec 2012

What kind of nut would accept a god who punishes little babies for others' "sins" (and please note that I use the word "sin" as that ass wipe Dodson did--not that I believe it).

Sheesh. Disgusting. Slime bucket, Shit hole. . .

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
48. Has he been invited to the Inaugural yet? Sounds like he's vying for a slot.
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 12:49 PM
Dec 2012

This time last cycle, Rick Warren was calling gay people pedophiles and such and that got him named 'America's Minister' and lots of honor from the OFA people. I wonder when Dobson will be officially announced to appear at this one?

SemperEadem

(8,053 posts)
50. well, then... there goes a good reason to worship him, huh?
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 12:51 PM
Dec 2012

why worship something mean and vindictive?

No, a mentally impaired young man who went to public and Catholic schools before being home schooled and raised in a house hold full of guns took out his frustration with his life on his mother and 27 other people.

that same god, according to dobson's own religious dogma, gave man the right to choose. What is the point of punishing when we supposedly have free will? dobson's argument is stupid and vapid on its face.

what do 20 innocent children have to do with abortion and gay marriage? Nothing. Not a god damned thing.

both dobson and suckabee are dancing on the graves of little children for attention. Plain and simple.

KansDem

(28,498 posts)
52. Not this shit again!
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 12:54 PM
Dec 2012

I swear, some Christians aren't happy unless they're bitching and moaning about something...

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
130. ... or persecuting someone. It's an old timeless story. IMO Christians ... and all religious are
Wed Dec 19, 2012, 11:59 PM
Dec 2012

generally looking for someone to persecute.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
53. No, it's because RW assholes like you have spread crazy fucking anti-government paranoid bargle.
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 12:57 PM
Dec 2012

Thus leading to "Survivalists" filling their basements with AR-15s.

Rambis

(7,774 posts)
54. When will this guy get picked up
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 12:59 PM
Dec 2012

in the "wrong" part of town? There have to be male companions out there because no one this anti gay, unless?

Laochtine

(394 posts)
55. Feeding on the blood of babies
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 01:10 PM
Dec 2012

and the tears of their parents, can you sink any lower? I'm almost afraid to ask. At least shit gives back, you are a worthless
bag of garbage wrapped in skin.

TlalocW

(15,675 posts)
60. Anyone have that image
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 02:02 PM
Dec 2012

It had something about the slaughter of Native Americans and God doing nothing and then something about abortion or gays and God getting pissed. It was wonderfully snarky.

TlalocW

FiveGoodMen

(20,018 posts)
63. Every fucking preacher: "God killed the innocent because the rest of us weren't big enough bullies!"
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 02:23 PM
Dec 2012

GOD. DAMN. JAMES. DOBSON.

valerief

(53,235 posts)
64. He's got a point. All those 6-year-old girls having all those abortions.
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 02:38 PM
Dec 2012

And all those 6-year-old boys showing each other their wee-wees. Why, of course, the loving Lord had to have them slaughtered.

Damn, I hate religion.

Harry Monroe

(2,935 posts)
67. Hey Dobson, please shut the fuck up!!
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 02:44 PM
Dec 2012

Adults are talking here!! And no, you do not get a seat at the table of rational discussion of this issue. BTW, do these assholes actually think they are helping their cause when they make idiotic statements like this? This has got to be one of the most ignorant motherfuckers on the planet Earth!

AntiFascist

(13,751 posts)
75. Expected from this fool...
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 03:53 PM
Dec 2012

by the way, former Nazi Youth Pope Benedict recently remarked that gay marriage is a threat to world peace. Who knew?
 

coljam

(188 posts)
80. Why would anyone give money to
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 04:26 PM
Dec 2012

this jagoff.

If what he says is true why doesnt he just pray the gay away.Better yet if god doesnt like gays ...why did he make them.
This god shit has got to stop.

surrealAmerican

(11,879 posts)
86. This makes almost as much sense as ...
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 05:29 PM
Dec 2012

... god allowing abortion and gay marriage because of school shootings.

Why would we be punished for abortion, and not be punished for mass murders?

 

toby jo

(1,269 posts)
87. If this guy is a legitimate preacher, they should have some kind of mental health standard in play
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 05:48 PM
Dec 2012

If he's just another right-wing hate radio dude, it's par for the course.

I've been thinking lately we need to stop the hate speech, it underlies all this, but how? Don't know.

DallasNE

(8,008 posts)
90. The Lord Has No Mercy
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 06:43 PM
Dec 2012

That is the takeaway from what Dobson just said. He will take the lives of 6 and 7 year old children should you cross Him in his teachings. Next time it may be a nursery school if you don't shape up. That is al Qaeda territory. With "friends" like Dobson, who needs enemies.

 

leftlibdem420

(256 posts)
91. Bullshit.
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 06:45 PM
Dec 2012

There were school massacres long before abortion was legal and long before our LGBT compatriots were even treated as human beings, let alone being able to marry.

drm604

(16,230 posts)
95. The man is a psychopathic asshole.
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 07:44 PM
Dec 2012

He's giving permission to people to commit slaughter by telling them that it's God's will. Isn't this criminal incitement? I wish some DA would test that.

 

sulphurdunn

(6,891 posts)
97. Scripture states
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 08:49 PM
Dec 2012

that we should not cast things of value to pigs. Dobson is a spiritual pig in every sense of the word. He should be rendered into media bacon, not given a forum to squeal his demonic madness.

 

Whovian

(2,866 posts)
99. Why did God allow Charles Whitman to kill 16 and wound 32 before Roe v Wade and gay marriage
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 08:58 PM
Dec 2012

when he took the tower in Austin Tx back in '66?

And then in '73 when RVW passed did the viet Nam war start to wind down and come to an end with the beginning of America's exit strategy?

richmwill

(1,326 posts)
101. So your God murders 20 children as anger-filled revenge because people don't like him?...
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 09:03 PM
Dec 2012

...Is that really what this idiot is trying to say??? What a "loving" God you preach of, Dobson.

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
104. Why must he and others worship this terrible entity who killed those kids and teachers?
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 10:21 PM
Dec 2012

Death over gay love or women's rights ?
What draws them to pray to him and praise him???

cheriemedium59

(212 posts)
105. f*&^%$#idiot!
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 10:46 PM
Dec 2012

These right wing wackos are themselves dangerous weapons. I mean really?
So glad I am a liberal progressive with a brain...

mwooldri

(10,818 posts)
106. So what did he say about the church bombing in Kaduna (Nigeria) ?
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 10:48 PM
Dec 2012

Story: http://www.aljazeera.com/news/africa/2012/10/2012102894721308691.html

Did God allow this to happen to his people in his house? And this is not the only incident. There have been growing tensions between the people of Islamic faith in northern Nigeria and those of Christian faith for quite some time - as well as economic and racial differences.

Moostache

(11,179 posts)
107. FUCK him and his "god"....that's one petty, sickly excuse for a deity.
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 11:20 PM
Dec 2012

Dobson is same asshole who preached about the value in beating your kids too isn't he?

I am still horrified by what happened to those little children and their teachers. The slaughter of innocents and the scarring for life of survivors is evil in a way that no sane or caring person can ever understand...but this fuckwad, bible-thumping assclown, he has the inside track from "gawd".

What really makes me sick is that I would trade his life for any one of the victims from any of the shootings we have had in the last few years and it would not take me a millisecond of thinking about it - it would be a reflex reaction. We have all these guns and an apparent surplus of mentally disturbed people to get their hands on them, yet none of these shooters think it would be a bigger story to off a few Christian hate mongers instead of killing children in schools, or at a supermarket to meet a Congresswoman, or at a movie theater to see Batman?

Gun violence is an awful thing, but I cannot help myself...at this point, I wish the morons like Dobson who seek to tie everything to their narrow and pathetic interpretation of reality would find themselves the targets more often than the adjudicators of these kind of tragedies. Maybe a good old fashion gun fight at the "Love Me Some Jeebus, Hates Me some Gayz" rally would change his opinion of what is REALLY to blame.

If the bullshit that he spews is "gawd's" plan in any way, shape or form, then count me out and count me out of that kind of "heaven" as well. I can't think of anything worse than spending time with Dobson or his bigoted, hateful ilk...unless it was spending eternity with them.

gtar100

(4,192 posts)
109. If that's true, then God is a total asshole.
Wed Dec 19, 2012, 01:14 AM
Dec 2012

But of course, that's not true and it's Dobson who is a total asshole.

NYtoBush-Drop Dead

(490 posts)
110. This tool needs to lose his 501-C3 status...
Wed Dec 19, 2012, 02:14 AM
Dec 2012

Then needs to be hog - tied and drug through the town square.

DearHeart

(692 posts)
111. These people are just a gigantic bunch of whackjobs!!!
Wed Dec 19, 2012, 03:15 AM
Dec 2012

Why do they get a public platform to spew their bullshit and hatred??? Sick to death of this!!

 

Hulk

(6,699 posts)
112. This screwball is as wierd as that clown from FL...
Wed Dec 19, 2012, 03:25 AM
Dec 2012

...the dick head who wanted to publicly burn the Koran. The same clown that pickets funeral services of military personnel killed in action. What a shameless son of a bitch.

 

Pretzel_Warrior

(8,361 posts)
114. Dobson stumbled me from Christianity. Therefore, he will have a mill stone hung round his neck
Wed Dec 19, 2012, 04:28 AM
Dec 2012

And cast into the ocean according to his Bible.

Dobson is proof there is no God.

King_Klonopin

(1,379 posts)
115. This jackass does not speak for God.
Wed Dec 19, 2012, 05:32 AM
Dec 2012

We should avoid conflating fools like Dobson with a God of any definition.

He shows no signs that God is in him.
He uses God as a prop.
He uses Biblical verses to rationalize his hatred and anger.
He wants God to speak for him, not vice versa.

I would tell him that, yes, I agree that God might be punishing us.
And that I agree that God might be angry because we have failed
to drive out the evil from our midst.

But "the evil" that we tolerate is embodied in his wingnut conservatism --
the gun-worshiping, war-mongering, hate-filled, death-merchant type --
and those conservatives who attempt to sell us the Satanic lie that,
"guns = peace, security, safety, and freedom."' You are the reason,
Mr. Dobson, that violence flourishes.

Guns = Death. More Guns = More Death.

What can I do when your right to spray bullets from guns abridges
my right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness? Is the answer
really that much of a conundrum ??

The right to swing your fist should end where my nose begins

gordianot

(15,772 posts)
118. I am convinced that many of these RW fundamentalist agree with the Westboro Baptist Church crowd
Wed Dec 19, 2012, 11:03 AM
Dec 2012

They do not have the nerve to make this view public nor withstand the pushback if they did with full support of Phelps and his family.

Still Blue in PDX

(1,999 posts)
121. It's always about reproductive organs with these people, isn't it?
Wed Dec 19, 2012, 01:31 PM
Dec 2012

Embarrasses me that I used to be a Christian and listened to Focus on the Family.

Now it embarrasses me that any Christian would listen to this creep.

McCamy Taylor

(19,240 posts)
122. God punished the kids because they were neither aborted nor the product of married gay sex?
Wed Dec 19, 2012, 01:46 PM
Dec 2012

It's hard to follow the thinking fundies.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
125. It is insane religious leaders like this that gives all
Wed Dec 19, 2012, 11:19 PM
Dec 2012

organized religions a bad name. So hard to accept legitimacy when global trotting charlatans spout hate and more hate.

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
126. And, what fools like Dobson can't comprehend is that people turn their backs on
Wed Dec 19, 2012, 11:27 PM
Dec 2012

religion because of god damn fools like him!

mzmolly

(52,793 posts)
127. I hate that SOB.
Wed Dec 19, 2012, 11:28 PM
Dec 2012

If anyone who believed in God, has lost faith in a higher power, it's because of people like him.

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
128. Dobson, is the personification of evilness. To frame it in christian lingo as I was
Wed Dec 19, 2012, 11:35 PM
Dec 2012

taught, the devil comes in many forms. And hence we can see this in Dobson and the damn fools like him. Who, wants to associate with or have anything to do with ... or respect ... a damn fool like Dobson and their belief system. Well, enter the Phelps family of westboro baptist church.

rwsanders

(3,180 posts)
132. Want to know a way to help get rid of this guy?
Thu Dec 20, 2012, 12:38 AM
Dec 2012

I know he has supposedly "retired" from Focus on the Family, but I still think his money comes from there. I really hate this group.
Just so you know, I'm a white male, evangelical christian, military, but I despise this group almost as much as Westboro Baptist Church. I won't go into the whys right now, but my wife and I discovered something interesting a while back (my angry letters to them got me on the mailing list). Their website has items 'for sale' for a 'suggested donation'. If you are careful with the checkout, you can change the amount to something small like $1.
We did this and were able to get 3-4 copies of the movie Narnia before they cut us off. But if many do it, it would have a big impact. We wanted the movies, but it wouldn't matter if you threw the stuff away. We picked such a small amount because even the shipping cost them more. We wanted to be sure they LOST money on the transaction.

cliffordu

(30,994 posts)
138. God allowed that tragedy because we have not necklaced
Thu Dec 20, 2012, 04:30 AM
Dec 2012

James Dobson.

Who has probably killed more people than that fucking scumbag that shot those babies and their teachers.

krhines

(115 posts)
139. My Question Is
Thu Dec 20, 2012, 10:13 AM
Dec 2012

What explanation do these fundamentalist have for countries that are not and have never been "Christian Nation" (Even though we never have been, but for the sake of argument) like Japan for example. Why don't they have all these crazy killings happening every couple of months. They clearly have turned their backs on God?

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