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xchrom

(108,903 posts)
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 07:11 AM Dec 2012

Why Do We Get Riled Up About Gun Rights, and Not Rights to Health Care and Education?

http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/why-do-we-get-riled-about-gun-rights-and-not-rights-health-care-and-education



The suicide/mass-killing in Newtown has provoked Senator Dianne Feinstein to propose going back to the assault weapons ban that George W. Bush let lapse in 2004. That’s a nice start, but increasing numbers of Americans are calling for a ban on all guns, except for those carried by people who actually need them.

And there’s a strong argument to be made for it.

The Charles Koch Foundation, which was founded in 1974 and then changed its name to the Cato Institute two years later, would like you to know something about gun control. In a commentary titled “ Gun Control, Myths and Realities ,” their director of publications, David Lampo, writes:

[T]he facts show that there is simply no correlation between gun control laws and murder or suicide rates across a wide spectrum of nations and cultures. In Israel and Switzerland, for example, a license to possess guns is available on demand to every law-abiding adult, and guns are easily obtainable in both nations. Both countries also allow widespread carrying of concealed firearms, and yet, admits Dr. Arthur Kellerman, one of the foremost medical advocates of gun control, Switzerland and Israel “have rates of homicide that are low despite rates of home firearm ownership that are at least as high as those in the United States.”

Sounds pretty compelling, right?
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Why Do We Get Riled Up About Gun Rights, and Not Rights to Health Care and Education? (Original Post) xchrom Dec 2012 OP
Yes - Until One Realizes That The Death Merchants Have A Profit Motive cantbeserious Dec 2012 #1
that is the sick gun nut culture in which we live Skittles Dec 2012 #2
Yes, why not health care and education? NYC_SKP Dec 2012 #3
people get riled up about whatever is put in front of their faces repetitiously. and nearly HiPointDem Dec 2012 #4
because, as conversatives have shown time and again WooWooWoo Dec 2012 #5
BECAUSE: We Don't See Iggy Dec 2012 #6
Which amendment to the constitution reads: Indydem Dec 2012 #7

Skittles

(153,170 posts)
2. that is the sick gun nut culture in which we live
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 07:13 AM
Dec 2012

we have coddled their twisted delusions for far too long and it HAS TO STOP

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
3. Yes, why not health care and education?
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 07:16 AM
Dec 2012

I heard Feinstein on the radio today.

I've never liked her very much.

I think we get riled up because of the fetish factor, the guns in movies factor, the guns and violence associated with sex factor.

And the fetish factor is by no means limited to gun enthusiasts.

The fetish factor is shared, maybe to a greater degree, by those who get all riled up about them.

K/R

 

HiPointDem

(20,729 posts)
4. people get riled up about whatever is put in front of their faces repetitiously. and nearly
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 07:21 AM
Dec 2012

everything that is put in front of their faces is put their by some faction of the ruling class, for its own purposes.

WooWooWoo

(454 posts)
5. because, as conversatives have shown time and again
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 07:22 AM
Dec 2012

its easier and lazier to react to something and call for a ban of things than it is to fight for something new.

 

Iggy

(1,418 posts)
6. BECAUSE: We Don't See
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 07:38 AM
Dec 2012

Twenty six or seven year old kids dying from lack of health care services.

Unfortunately, and this indicates just how weak congress and Obama are-- it took these kids getting shot multiple times in the head to FINALLY act on new gun legislation-- the horror at Aurora was not enough to move them.

FAIL.

 

Indydem

(2,642 posts)
7. Which amendment to the constitution reads:
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 07:50 AM
Dec 2012

"The right to healthcare and education shall not be abridged"?

Furthermore, in what way are those services being denied? No one receives free firearms as a contingent of the 2A so while you argue healthcare is a right how it is paid for remains the issue.

If we can manage to get single payer for all passed and ratified as an amendment then it will stand above the 2A.

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