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WilliamPitt

(58,179 posts)
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 09:57 AM Dec 2012

A Message To The NRA From The Four Horsemen Of The Apocalypse

A Message To The NRA From The Four Horsemen Of The Apocalypse
By Paul Bibeau

Hey, guys.

Pestilence here. The other riders and I are pretty busy lately, but we wanted to take a moment and make something clear. In the days ahead many of you will be deploying some pretty stupid arguments against gun control in this country. The whole "cars are deadly, knives are deadly, Nazis started this, and anyway, what about abortion?" kind of dealie. God, it makes our heads hurt just thinking about it. When you write this stuff you make the internet even more stupid than it already is. Instead of wading into this nonsense we wanted to just address one very specific notion you'll be sharing with your friends on Facebook.

You really think gun ownership protects you from the government taking your rights.

This isn't even an argument at all. It's a poorly-conceived Red Dawn fantasy. You say things like this, because in some ugly part of your brain you want to see yourself fighting the globalist army after the collapse of our country. And you have that particular dream because you're old and white, and you're afraid of the way this country is changing. The guns give you a feeling of control.

Okay, well, first of all... when the balloon really goes up you're certainly going to die very, very quickly. It won't be like the movies, trust us. You will lumber down into your basement to start the generator, and you will trip, cut yourself on a rusty lawn mower part, or maybe just have a massive cardiac, because you're overweight, and the only thing you stand a chance against with that AK-47 is a deer. There's a whole political party devoted to telling people like you - the most soft and privileged and pampered members of this wonderful country - that you're some hardy band of rebels fighting oppression. That little fairy tale will evaporate before Glenn Beck collects his gold chips.

The rest: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/12/17/1171090/-A-Message-To-The-NRA-From-The-Four-Horsemen-Of-The-Apocalypse
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A Message To The NRA From The Four Horsemen Of The Apocalypse (Original Post) WilliamPitt Dec 2012 OP
Brilliant! Atman Dec 2012 #1
I Don't Think Our Resident Gun Enthusiasts Will Be Amused. Paladin Dec 2012 #2
Awesome!! This is wonderfully Rude Pundit-esque! bullwinkle428 Dec 2012 #3
Yep - The kind of stupidity required to maintain this worldview is beyond me. klook Dec 2012 #4
it worked for the viet cong rdking647 Dec 2012 #6
so it'll get the Americans to leave America? MNBrewer Dec 2012 #8
Thanks for posting this graphic... paulbibeau Dec 2012 #22
Bibeau is a freaking genius! blueamy66 Dec 2012 #5
You're too kind. Thank you very much. paulbibeau Dec 2012 #18
That's one of the best things I have ever read. Zoeisright Dec 2012 #7
help Locrian Dec 2012 #9
Oh, I agree if it were possible.... tex-wyo-dem Dec 2012 #16
Brilliant. The NRA silence right now is allowing some important voices/views to be heard riderinthestorm Dec 2012 #10
This line here says it all... cynatnite Dec 2012 #11
k&r... spanone Dec 2012 #12
Makes me think of the ex and her "new family"... EnviroBat Dec 2012 #13
You nailed it, Will ReRe Dec 2012 #14
K & R ellisonz Dec 2012 #15
K&R. Excellent. Dark n Stormy Knight Dec 2012 #17
Thanks very much for sharing this. paulbibeau Dec 2012 #19
Same to you, Paul! WilliamPitt Dec 2012 #21
Ah HAHAHA! Loved it (nt) apnu Dec 2012 #20

klook

(12,160 posts)
4. Yep - The kind of stupidity required to maintain this worldview is beyond me.
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 10:28 AM
Dec 2012

Some idiot commenting on the Mother Jones "20 Astounding Gun Ads" roundup:

The second amendment has absolutely nothing to do with hunting. It is to assure that if need be, that the citizens be armed to take power back from a corrupt tyrannical leadership, which is exactly where we are headed. That is also why they want to ban the guns, complete control. And yes we do need those automatic weapons if that's what we would be fighting against in a revolution scenario.


These cretins actually think they would stand any kind of chance against the United States military if it came down to armed resistance.


paulbibeau

(743 posts)
22. Thanks for posting this graphic...
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 12:56 PM
Dec 2012

Doesn't that picture make you stop and think we need a U turn in foreign policy? Like, if even Dwight D. Eisenhower saw it, it'd turn him into a damn commie?

 

blueamy66

(6,795 posts)
5. Bibeau is a freaking genius!
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 10:35 AM
Dec 2012

I know a guy who has been asked to leave a shooting range twice.... once for discharging his weapon and almost shooting his foot off and once when his gun "fell apart" after he had cleaned it.

He fits Bibeau's characterization to a T. Old, white, clumsy....and may I add delusional?!?!

Locrian

(4,522 posts)
9. help
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 11:22 AM
Dec 2012

You really think gun ownership protects you from the government taking your rights.

This isn't even an argument at all. It's a poorly-conceived Red Dawn fantasy. You say things like this, because in some ugly part of your brain you want to see yourself fighting the globalist army after the collapse of our country. And you have that particular dream because you're old and white, and you're afraid of the way this country is changing. The guns give you a feeling of control.


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Ok - so we're talking improved gun laws, access to mental health, etc

Can we talk about ways to address this issue? How do we get people involved in FIXING the gov and actually helping out vs creating end times scenarios? Seems like fixing THAT would help a small bit, yes? Reduce the fear, reduce the demand for security blankets for at least some (fantasy) issues.

That goes double for all the FOX, Rush, etc fools stoking the flames.

tex-wyo-dem

(3,190 posts)
16. Oh, I agree if it were possible....
Wed Dec 19, 2012, 12:54 AM
Dec 2012

But I'm not so sure it is for a lot of the most serious cases of paranoia.

I say this because I've known a lot of people that fall into this category and I've come to the conclusion that they are suffering from a psychological disorder that may stem from genetics, and are, for all intents and purposes, unreachable. Fortunately they are a small minority and need to be pushed to the fringe where they belong when it comes to making policy decisions. Unfortunately, the likes of FOX, Rush, Beck, et al make it seem as though they constitute mainstream thought and stoke the fire of this vocal and unstable minority.

The article absolutely nails these psychopaths...it's been my experience that many of them DO have wet fantasies about having to defend themselves against a "tyrannical government" or blow away an intruder in their home just to give them the opportunity/excuse to use their guns. They get off on the thought.

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
10. Brilliant. The NRA silence right now is allowing some important voices/views to be heard
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 11:36 AM
Dec 2012

Its almost like that hush the Obama Admin allowed during the summer before the ACA vote, when "death panels" and other propaganda was allowed to seep into the national conscience.

The NRA silence is allowing some sanity to seep into the public media sphere.

I'm grateful, wary, and hopeful that maybe we can alter some perceptions. Of course the worst of the true gunner believers will never be persuaded but some folks can be reached during this time.

K&R!

cynatnite

(31,011 posts)
11. This line here says it all...
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 12:09 PM
Dec 2012
The guns give you a feeling of control.

That is it in a nutshell.

The entire piece is brilliant writing.

EnviroBat

(5,290 posts)
13. Makes me think of the ex and her "new family"...
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 12:55 PM
Dec 2012


And yes, despite the recent tragic events in CT, this is STILL her Facebook cover photo. These assholes don't stand a chance...

paulbibeau

(743 posts)
19. Thanks very much for sharing this.
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 12:05 PM
Dec 2012

Like many of you, I was pretty devastated by what happened in Connecticut. I wish I could say I was shocked, or even a little tiny bit surprised. I was not.

We have to do something about this. It's good to see that many of you agree.

Happy and safe holidays,

Paul

 

WilliamPitt

(58,179 posts)
21. Same to you, Paul!
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 12:09 PM
Dec 2012

I ran this in the Truthout/BuzzFlash newsletter earlier this week as well. Great stuff.

Cheers!

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