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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSo.....Musk wasn't able to hack the WI Supreme Court election?
I thought free and fair elections were gone?
SSJVegeta
(2,210 posts)But whaddya know? People DONT have to follow bad advice...
Ocelot II
(128,732 posts)Hugin
(37,260 posts)Hes no fan of Trump or MAGA. He wants us to die. Chaos is the means.
ecstatic
(34,993 posts)and disenfranchisement of people of color and young people. All of their cheating becomes meaningless when (older) white people shift towards Democrats.
gab13by13
(30,959 posts)all the more reason for Congressional Democrats to get out now and do town halls while the iron is hot.
Jack Valentino
(4,228 posts)especially younger people---- we lost those because of "high prices", which were worldwide.
It's hard to craft a message on that issue against a liar who promised "lower prices on day one!"
Now that Trump-flation chicken is coming home to roost...
and everything he has done since taking office is making it worse for him.
I don't expect a "turnout problem" for Democrats in 2026
(see "2018 midterm election results" for guidance-- only a little bit worse for R's)
dweller
(27,695 posts)Were the 1 million+ ppl who showed up to vote for Crawford
✌🏻
gab13by13
(30,959 posts)Maybe Wisconsin voters flooded the system?
He's probably too busy gutting our country.
Jack Valentino
(4,228 posts)thus by definition, "hacking" is impossible. End of story.
Getting tired of this non-story.... Inability to accept a loss makes us look like the 2020 magat base...
If we had actually WON the 2024 presidential election,
after dumping our incumbent president from the ticket, then
THAT would have been a very unusual result, judging by results from
about the last 150 years----
Given the attributes of the opposing candidates, it SHOULD have happened by simple logic,
but it did NOT--- which aligns with the rules about supporting your incumbent president--
and what usually happens when you do not...
Intractable
(1,498 posts)But national-level elections that involve sending polling data over the internet might be easy for him and his allies.
Mountainguy
(2,145 posts)Being a national election or a state level doesn't change anything.
Intractable
(1,498 posts)Hopefully, this will not involve Starlink, but that is what they will try to do.
There's no doubt that Trump plans to revamp elections.
Mountainguy
(2,145 posts)Presidential elections are handled exactly the same as statewide races because that's what they are. Precincts count votes and report them to the county which reports them to the SOS/state. Pretty easy to audit if the numbers recorded at the precinct level don't match what's reported to the SOS. Voting machines, tabulators, and the laptops where the results are kept are all air-gapped.
https://www.macoupinvotes.gov/faqs/voting-machine-security-faqs/
There is no such thing as a national election in the US. Elections are statewide or local.
EdmondDantes_
(1,273 posts)Just because we lost in 2024 doesn't mean all is lost. Get up, fight again. Invest in growing the party in red states not just throwing money at high profile longshots. Have a message that resonates better.
tritsofme
(19,763 posts)The only ones more shocked will be Republicans!
onethatcares
(16,949 posts)just wondrin'
Hugin
(37,260 posts)She can commiserate with that Ashley St Clair lady Skum promised to marry if only shed be an incubator for nine months.
elocs
(24,486 posts)It was a historic turnout here in Wisconsin for a spring election which overwhelmed any attempt to hack, steal, or buy it.
If Democrats and the Left had the same fire in the belly to win and would have turned out in historic numbers last November there would be no president Trump or interfering Musk now. If voters in Wisconsin in this election had the same over-confident attitude that Democrats had in November, Schimel would have won here yesterday.
Meowmee
(9,212 posts)https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/21/magazine/the-myth-of-the-hacker-proof-voting-machine.html
There have been other articles info published about all of this I believe.
'Online and vulnerable': Experts find nearly three dozen U.S. voting systems connected to internet
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/online-vulnerable-experts-find-nearly-three-dozen-u-s-voting-n1112436
Cybersecurity experts urge retirement of touchscreen voting machines used in Pennsylvania
https://penncapital-star.com/campaigns-elections/cybersecurity-experts-urge-retirement-of-touchscreen-voting-machines-used-in-pennsylvania/
Voting experts warn of serious threats for 2024 from election equipment software breaches
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/voting-experts-warn-of-serious-threats-for-2024-from-election-equipment-software-breaches