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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHoyer: Democrats will oppose ‘Plan B’. Obama ‘not willing to accept’ Boehner’s backup plan on taxes
House Minority Whip Steny Hoyer (D-Md.) told reporters Tuesday that Democratic leaders will urge their members to vote against Boehners Plan B, meaning Boehner will have to scrounge up enough votes from his own contentious caucus if he wishes to pass the idea through the House.
Hoyer said the math does not work in Boehners idea, calling the revenue it raises woefully inadequate to address debt relief. Hoyer called Boehners idea a political ploy designed to protect Republicans from a public perception that they are largely concerned with trying to protect the wealthy.
But Hoyer, who was briefed on the status of talks by White House congressional liaison Rob Nabors on Tuesday morning, said he was encouraged that Boehner has indicated that negotiations continue and his plan is not designed as a substitute for a bipartisan deal.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2012/12/18/hoyer-democrats-will-oppose-plan-b/
House Republicans Plan B Ploy And Why Dems Are Rejecting It
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/12/fiscal-cliff-plan-b-boehner.php?ref=fpb
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Leading Democrats including, notably, Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-NY) and House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi have in the recent past proposed setting the threshold for the expiration of the Bush tax cuts at incomes above $1 million. Plan B is, in a similar spirit, designed to rob Democrats of their argument that Republicans are holding middle-income tax cuts hostage for millionaires and billionaires.
The plan reflects just how far the ideological pendulum has swing back in Obamas direction since the election. Republicans are now in effect siding with Schumer in what used to be a fight between top Democrats. But with leverage on their side, Democrats are preemptively rejecting the GOPs fallback.
Speaker Boehners plan B is the farthest thing from a balanced approach, said Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV). It will not protect middle class families because it cannot pass both Houses of Congress. The Senate bill is the only plan B that can be signed into law and prevent taxes from rising by $2,200 on the average middle-class family. Now is the time to show leadership, not kick the can down the road. Speaker Boehner should focus his energy on forging a large-scale deficit reduction agreement. It would be a shame if Republicans abandoned productive negotiations due to pressure from the Tea Party, as they have time and again.
House Minority Whip Steny Hoyer (D-MD) who controls Democratic votes in the House said House Dems wont provide Boehner cover. The math doesnt work, he told reporters Tuesday. Were going to urge our members to vote no.
Obama not willing to accept Boehners backup plan on taxes
The White House on Tuesday said President Obama "is not willing to accept" Speaker John Boehners Plan B to avoid the fiscal cliff.
Boehner (R-Ohio) on Tuesday announced the House would vote on legislation to extend tax rates on income below $1 million as a backup plan in case his talks with Obama fail.
The White House rejected Boehners proposal, saying it "doesnt ask enough of the very wealthiest in taxes and instead shifts the burden to the middle class and seniors."
"The Speakers Plan B approach doesnt meet this test because it cant pass the Senate and therefore will not protect middle-class families, and does little to address our fiscal challenges with zero spending cuts," White House press secretary Jay Carney said in a statement Tuesday.
http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/273467-obama-not-willing-to-accept-boehners-backup-plan-on-tax-rates
jsr
(7,712 posts)Last edited Tue Dec 18, 2012, 03:45 PM - Edit history (1)
The Bush tax cuts are like vampires that refuse to die.
They need to be killed good and dead.
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)bluestate10
(10,942 posts)republicans most of their votes in 23 months.
Skidmore
(37,364 posts)the President was selling us down the river.
That we were screwn....
Unless it comes directly from the President himself, I will categorically disregard any BS brought to this board.
kentuck
(111,106 posts)Offering to raise the limit to $400K is selling you down the river. That is almost 90% of the entire Bush taxcuts being taken off the table.
Skidmore
(37,364 posts)This stuff flying around today are bargaining positions. I don't see a need to have a meltdown right now.
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)did strike a deal unpalatable to those who just voted him back into office.
When PBO agreed to continue the Bush tax cuts last time there were a lot of posters here doing back flips approving of what he had done.
If, and I don't believe that he will, PBO was to do this again I would expect to see the same acrobatic team warming up for a big "He had to do it" routine: worthy of an Olympic gold.
Skidmore
(37,364 posts)If Romney were to be sworn into office, do you think that this discussion would even be occurring at all? Communicate your concerns to the WH and to your reps and senators. I proudly cast my vote for the President without regret.
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)That's not what I asked you.
I asked what would be your opinion if PBO decided to do what he did last time and keep the tax cuts for the rich.
bowens43
(16,064 posts)the republicans are playing obama like a cheap fiddle
leftstreet
(36,109 posts)We're fucked