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kentuck

(111,106 posts)
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 01:43 PM Dec 2012

Why do people continue to criticize this President?

When no deals have been made with the Republicans up to this point? A lot of ideas have been floated about but nothing has been agreed upon.

Does it do any good to express your thoughts and concerns about possible "deals" that have not yet been made? Would it not be better to just put your faith in President Obama and the Democratic Party and trust that they will do the right thing for all of us? Would not it be better that we stood behind them no matter what they might say in negotiations, because in the long run, they are not going to screw us? Don't we have to believe that?

Or are you of the opinion that you have to keep the heat on them at all times? It is for the best to not trust any politician, not even those of your own Party, when so much is at stake? Is that your reason for disagreeing with President Obama?

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Why do people continue to criticize this President? (Original Post) kentuck Dec 2012 OP
Democracy does not function in silence, kentuck. enlightenment Dec 2012 #1
the old saying; "damn if he does and damn if he does't." On DU, no one is ever happy. demosincebirth Dec 2012 #2
There are a lot of whiny people in this country. Zoeisright Dec 2012 #3
Reactionaries on the right and left... Comrade_McKenzie Dec 2012 #4
Because he asked us to hold his feet to the fire? HereSince1628 Dec 2012 #5
The "Empowerment" Of The Innertoobs... KharmaTrain Dec 2012 #6
IMHO, we're not required to believe they're not going to screw us. hughee99 Dec 2012 #7
Silence is consent jsr Dec 2012 #8
Not. n/t cynatnite Dec 2012 #15
Is too. n/t dawg Dec 2012 #24
President Obama has OFFERED to throw seniors to the wolves. That's why. forestpath Dec 2012 #9
If we wait until the deal is done, it's too late to criticize. dawg Dec 2012 #10
An easy way to stop the rumors. Televise the negotiations. Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2012 #11
"better to just put your faith in President Obama and the Democratic Party" Skip Intro Dec 2012 #12
People who complain after the fact have no real power. Bucky Dec 2012 #13
I agree that no deal has been signed as of yet, and I await to see what will come. R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2012 #14
I wish they'd hurry and settle on something... I need something new to watch in the news. nt Comrade_McKenzie Dec 2012 #16
Because he is offering to "not cut social security" by cutting social security? AllyCat Dec 2012 #17
Because he's just a politician DJ13 Dec 2012 #18
They wait with bated breath for a chance to jump on Obama. Any excuse will do. MjolnirTime Dec 2012 #19
This is not just about Social Security and Medicare. woo me with science Dec 2012 #20
There are some who have expected nothing from him but failure since 2008 CakeGrrl Dec 2012 #21
Because the second he makes the deal, the same people Marr Dec 2012 #22
I'm a cynic. Blue_In_AK Dec 2012 #23

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
5. Because he asked us to hold his feet to the fire?
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 01:53 PM
Dec 2012

Because DU is a collection of "chatroom" where people can talk about those concerns?

Excuse me my dear Kentuck, but in the words of the sage from Oklahoma...

we aren't an organized political party. We are democrats.

KharmaTrain

(31,706 posts)
6. The "Empowerment" Of The Innertoobs...
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 01:55 PM
Dec 2012

Back "in the day", we'd piss and moan to a good friend or maybe write a letter to the editor when something honked us off. Today, you race to the puter and type til your fingers get sore. Any thought or feeling can and is shown out here...including lots and lots of emotion. Thus when something finds its way into the news or even if its just posted here, it's gonna get a lot of response...positive and negative. To me, that's what makes this place fun...watching the sturn and drang as a story develops.

More to your point...there are many who feel they are "owed" for their vote and/or support of the President. We all have our pet issues and thresholds....some hit them faster and more frequently than others.

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
7. IMHO, we're not required to believe they're not going to screw us.
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 01:55 PM
Dec 2012

Especially now, just after an election. We're as far from the next election as we can be, if politicians are going to screw their own constituents, NOW is the time they do it. That's why these sort of issues aren't at the forefront just BEFORE the election.

 

forestpath

(3,102 posts)
9. President Obama has OFFERED to throw seniors to the wolves. That's why.
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 01:58 PM
Dec 2012

It's irrelevant whether the Republicans have accepted his offer or not.

It tells me everything I need to know about President Obama.

dawg

(10,624 posts)
10. If we wait until the deal is done, it's too late to criticize.
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 01:58 PM
Dec 2012

Silence is the same as acquiescence as far as I'm concerned. And it is obvious that the chained CPI is being discussed. Now is the time to criticize this horrible idea.

Skip Intro

(19,768 posts)
12. "better to just put your faith in President Obama and the Democratic Party"
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 02:00 PM
Dec 2012

No, no blind faith in any politician for me, thanks. That is a scary, scary proposition.

Obama is a politician, not a god.

And talk is cheap, even when spoken with great eloquence.

We didn't come to have the Patriot Act and Dept. of Homeland Security without the Dems.

We didn't come to this place in our history without the Dems help.

Better than the repubs.

But politicians just the same.

None deserving of blind faith.
 

R. Daneel Olivaw

(12,606 posts)
14. I agree that no deal has been signed as of yet, and I await to see what will come.
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 02:02 PM
Dec 2012

I also awaited to see what would come last time when a deal was struck that ensured that the rich would continue getting gravy they didn't need. Progressives were upset with that outcome while they were told to STFU, and that it was for the good of the middle class.

Let's hope that it doesn't happen again this time in the form of cuts to SS through a chained CPI.

And I get on my knees and pray, we don't get fooled again...

AllyCat

(16,197 posts)
17. Because he is offering to "not cut social security" by cutting social security?
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 02:08 PM
Dec 2012

He made the offer. Reid confirmed it is on the table. If he moved to there, the only other way to go is even more cuts.

So frustrating how spineless these Dems are. Just go over the cliff already and be done with it.

DJ13

(23,671 posts)
18. Because he's just a politician
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 02:13 PM
Dec 2012

And politicians lie to win your vote, then stab you in the back once they are in power.

Same as it ever was.

CakeGrrl

(10,611 posts)
21. There are some who have expected nothing from him but failure since 2008
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 03:21 PM
Dec 2012

They're looking for the excuse to be proven right, and bizarrely relying on a biased MSM to confirm their worst fears.

 

Marr

(20,317 posts)
22. Because the second he makes the deal, the same people
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 03:22 PM
Dec 2012

who now insist that he never would, will switch to "thank got it passed" and "it was the best anyone could hope for" and "the Republicans MADE him do it".

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