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sinkingfeeling

(57,781 posts)
Mon Apr 7, 2025, 11:49 AM Apr 2025

So the USA is now so weak, we can't insist El Salvador return Abrego Garcia to the US.

Trump officials have argued that they have no power to return Abrego García because he is now in the custody of El Salvador.

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So the USA is now so weak, we can't insist El Salvador return Abrego Garcia to the US. (Original Post) sinkingfeeling Apr 2025 OP
Given Venezuela doesn't have Abrego Garcia EdmondDantes_ Apr 2025 #1
El Salvador? They have him, not Venezuela. Ocelot II Apr 2025 #2
uh, don't you mean El Salvador? Eugene Apr 2025 #3
Thanks. I corrected. sinkingfeeling Apr 2025 #5
Don't make it hard to comply with a court order then whine that it's hard to comply with a court order unblock Apr 2025 #4
Yes Trump is so weak he cannot demand the return of one man. Irish_Dem Apr 2025 #6
Its ridiculous Coolgoober Apr 2025 #7
and we all know what a load of horse sh*t THAT is. stopdiggin Apr 2025 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author Kid Berwyn Apr 2025 #9
Not just Garcia Cirsium Apr 2025 #10
How asbout a swap, one orange turd plus his staff for Mr. Garcia republianmushroom Apr 2025 #11
'This is a Path of Perfect Lawlessness': Court Condemns Trump Over Wrongful Deportation LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2025 #12
This concurrence explains trump's plans to avoid any judicial review of unlawful actions LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2025 #13

EdmondDantes_

(1,749 posts)
1. Given Venezuela doesn't have Abrego Garcia
Mon Apr 7, 2025, 11:51 AM
Apr 2025

Our relative strength or weakness doesn't seem relevant.

Eugene

(67,092 posts)
3. uh, don't you mean El Salvador?
Mon Apr 7, 2025, 11:51 AM
Apr 2025

although the Dump regime is sending deported Venezuelans to the Salvadorean CECOT prison.

unblock

(56,186 posts)
4. Don't make it hard to comply with a court order then whine that it's hard to comply with a court order
Mon Apr 7, 2025, 11:53 AM
Apr 2025

Coolgoober

(318 posts)
7. Its ridiculous
Mon Apr 7, 2025, 12:01 PM
Apr 2025

It's ridiculous that the strongest country in the world, the mighty u.s.a. cannot get a man back from El Salvador who was taken there by mistake. Although it appears the u.s.a. is getting weaker every day. Everything trump touches turns to shit.

stopdiggin

(15,410 posts)
8. and we all know what a load of horse sh*t THAT is.
Mon Apr 7, 2025, 12:03 PM
Apr 2025

Clearly the mechanism behind this whole process was engineered by the U.S. - with the aid of a lot of arm twisting. To claim impotence now ....

Response to sinkingfeeling (Original post)

republianmushroom

(22,296 posts)
11. How asbout a swap, one orange turd plus his staff for Mr. Garcia
Mon Apr 7, 2025, 12:51 PM
Apr 2025

Now that would be the art of the deal.

LetMyPeopleVote

(179,427 posts)
12. 'This is a Path of Perfect Lawlessness': Court Condemns Trump Over Wrongful Deportation
Mon Apr 7, 2025, 02:00 PM
Apr 2025

trump is arguing for a path of perfect lawlessness where he can violate a person's due process rights with no consequences



https://www.democracydocket.com/news-alerts/trump-court-condemns-wrongful-deportation-abrego-garcia/

A three-judge panel for the 4th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals unanimously rejected the Trump administration’s request to overturn a lower-court order requiring it to return a wrongfully deported Salvadorian immigrant to the U.S.

The United States Government has no legal authority to snatch a person who is lawfully present in the United States off the street and remove him from the country without due process,” the court ruled. “The Government’s contention otherwise, and its argument that the federal courts are powerless to intervene, are unconscionable.”

President Donald Trump last month invoked the Alien Enemies Act (AEA), an 18th century wartime law, to deport the man, Kilmer Abrego Garcia, and hundreds of other people to a hard labor prison in El Salvador....

“There is no question that the government screwed up here,” Circuit Judge Harvie Wilkinson, who was appointed by former President Ronald Reagan, wrote. “The withholding of removal order was country specific; it banned the government from removing Abrego Garcia to El Salvador and El Salvador only.”

Wilkinson said granting the Trump administration’s request would create a loophole through which it could “whisk individuals to foreign prisons in violation of court orders and then contend, invoking its Article II powers, that it is no longer their custodian, and there is nothing that can be done.”


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