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Doesn't China Own Much Of Our Debt? (Original Post) the_liberal_grandpa Apr 2025 OP
China owns about $750 billion of our debt so the_liberal_grandpa Apr 2025 #1
I have asked this before..I'm no expert but I'm pretty sure it won't be pretty Deuxcents Apr 2025 #2
I think they should do it or the_liberal_grandpa Apr 2025 #4
Yes JBTaurus83 Apr 2025 #3
Debt cant be "cashed in". drray23 Apr 2025 #5
yes, it is sort of a suicide pact lapfog_1 Apr 2025 #9
Shithead enid602 Apr 2025 #10
Japan owns more. China is second Raven123 Apr 2025 #6
Beijing is second-largest foreign holder of U.S. government debt after Japan Torchlight Apr 2025 #7
The $38T enid602 Apr 2025 #11
In an economic pissing contest both countries will suffer it just comes down to which country doesn't panic when egg ImNotGod Apr 2025 #8
Good thing the GOP isnt planning to issue 4.5 trillion Johonny Apr 2025 #12
4. I think they should do it or
Tue Apr 8, 2025, 07:28 PM
Apr 2025

at least threaten to. I think SHitler would crap in his pants. Assuming he understands it.

drray23

(8,822 posts)
5. Debt cant be "cashed in".
Tue Apr 8, 2025, 07:29 PM
Apr 2025

Its held in the form of bonds they invested in.
So, the only thing they can do is sell some of their bonds. However, if they sell too much at once it's value would collapse, they would not get back anywhere near their investment and market would simply go down more.

They don't need to do that right now , the market is already unstable and going down.

lapfog_1

(31,980 posts)
9. yes, it is sort of a suicide pact
Tue Apr 8, 2025, 07:36 PM
Apr 2025

they start selling their bonds on the open market, there will be NO takers at anything like previous face value, never mind maturity value.

So Chinese and China lose money... but it will hurt us more. Sales of T-bills will dry up. refinancing our debt of what $38T?? lol that won't happen. if done at the right moment, it could end the USA as a world economic power.

The dollar might be like 1930s Deutsch Marks. Probably not, but anything is possible with an idiot like Trump and Ron Vara at the helm.

enid602

(9,755 posts)
10. Shithead
Tue Apr 8, 2025, 07:44 PM
Apr 2025

They get paid when the bonds come due. T Bills have maturity dates ranging from 4 to 52 weeks, so on average, we have to roll them over frequently. About every 60 days.

Sometimes it’s best to act wisely and respectful to people who owe you a huge amount of money. But then again, shithead always thinks he’s holding all the cards.

Raven123

(7,898 posts)
6. Japan owns more. China is second
Tue Apr 8, 2025, 07:31 PM
Apr 2025
https://usafacts.org/articles/which-countries-own-the-most-us-debt/#embed

Apparently, it would not be good for China to dump debt, but they have been decreasing the amount of debt they carry.

Torchlight

(7,066 posts)
7. Beijing is second-largest foreign holder of U.S. government debt after Japan
Tue Apr 8, 2025, 07:32 PM
Apr 2025

Although China has been rreallocating assets into other investments heavily over the past four years, such as gold, to optimize its reserves and mitigate risks associated with holding a large amount of U.S. debt (which today, seems a wise precuation on thier part). Still, it's"only" about 750 billion, a relvatively small portion of the total U.S. national debt, which stood at approximately $35.3 trillion as of September 2024.

(Global Times, april 18)

enid602

(9,755 posts)
11. The $38T
Tue Apr 8, 2025, 07:49 PM
Apr 2025

Most of the $38T is held by US citizens, and a large amount of the $38T consists of amorphous debts held by the US Govt, supposedly backed up by ‘govt-owned assets.’

ImNotGod

(1,217 posts)
8. In an economic pissing contest both countries will suffer it just comes down to which country doesn't panic when egg
Tue Apr 8, 2025, 07:34 PM
Apr 2025

prices go about $2 a dozen. I'm betting China doesn't.

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