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no_hypocrisy

(54,906 posts)
Wed Apr 9, 2025, 07:57 AM Apr 2025

Somewhere out there are Baby Boomers

who became Reagan Yuppies in the Eighties. Their new drug of choice was money. (Exhibit One: Jerry Rubin, ex-Yippie)

And they invested in the stock market, expecting a big pay-off with a retirement.

They followed the Rules. They trusted the Market. They trusted the Government (except when Dems were in charge.)

And here they are, hemorrhaging their dreams, their futures.

It's like a bad Greek tragedy.

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Somewhere out there are Baby Boomers (Original Post) no_hypocrisy Apr 2025 OP
But all those tech bros aren't boomers. Fuck the generational shit. Jerry Rubin was just fucking Jerry Rubin. marble falls Apr 2025 #1
Many of us, baby boomers worked hard at our careers through those years. Investing in a 401(k). Walleye Apr 2025 #2
+1 Emile Apr 2025 #20
A lot of us are ex-Hippies. Vietnam war protesters, and Equal rights supporters who worked 45 years or sinkingfeeling Apr 2025 #33
I think I fit that description and most of the people I know Walleye Apr 2025 #40
you are correct sir chicoescuela Apr 2025 #35
Yep. Watching our 401 (k) evaporate just as we're preparing to retire. nt CousinIT Apr 2025 #52
Disappointing to see this here - simplistic "generalization". yorkster Apr 2025 #3
Little sympathy for boomers as a group...they turned from protesting for civil rights to buying into fear of browning JT45242 Apr 2025 #4
Mmmkay. And I guess we should have no sympathy for you either: "How Gen X Became the Trumpiest Generation." Scrivener7 Apr 2025 #6
... EYESORE 9001 Apr 2025 #13
I call them the Nancy Reagan generation. They don't seem to understand real life. They brought up on just say no. Walleye Apr 2025 #21
I disagree. My point was that all broad brushes are ridiculous.. Scrivener7 Apr 2025 #27
That is absolutely true. I think we all suffer from that kind of thing as well as far as being the victims of it. Walleye Apr 2025 #53
Not sure the 2024 election results bore that out -- as Boomers went more for teh felon -- White, especially white males, JT45242 Apr 2025 #45
There were also a helluva lot of people older than the boomers yorkster Apr 2025 #47
Sadly, you are correct in so many ways. Jit423 Apr 2025 #7
Two screen names so very similar. with identical viewpoints.. What a coinkeydink.... hlthe2b Apr 2025 #9
"In your heart you know he's right." Some serious irony here, junior. marble falls Apr 2025 #32
Such divisive posts--whether against Boomers, Gen-X, Millenials, Gen-Z need to stop! hlthe2b Apr 2025 #8
I disagree with your assessment UpInArms Apr 2025 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author Ponietz Apr 2025 #48
"buying into fear of browning of America". Sorry, but that's a big load of crap Walleye Apr 2025 #22
BS. You'd better take a good look at the biggest segement of those at town halls, ... marble falls Apr 2025 #31
So, you know every Boomer in the U.S.? mcar Apr 2025 #39
Generation Jones here (I just learned that's a thing) so technically I'm one of those Scrivener7 Apr 2025 #5
1964. Woodwizard Apr 2025 #10
Note the OP isn't saying anything about all Boomers Easterncedar Apr 2025 #12
Exactly. Mariana Apr 2025 #14
Bullshit. Most of us are objecting to the overt divisivenss. It is ugly as hell. hlthe2b Apr 2025 #18
But it applies to some of every generation. So why single out one and smack lips over their members' suffering? Scrivener7 Apr 2025 #15
Makes me wonder why it needs further discussion at all EYESORE 9001 Apr 2025 #16
At least 2 Responders on this post have. So read the others before excoriating those of us objecting to such hlthe2b Apr 2025 #17
Putin, Musk and Trump love to see us picking away at each other like this. It makes them happy. Walleye Apr 2025 #23
BS. All he mentioned was "boomers", not "some boomers", not "including Xers, Millenials etc" ... marble falls Apr 2025 #36
That's not the discussion. The discussion is "boomers elected Mango Jebus", that "boomers ... marble falls Apr 2025 #43
Yes, there are those that took a hard right turn. lark Apr 2025 #19
Most of the people I saw at our rally were middle-aged or older. Don't know where the young people are Walleye Apr 2025 #24
Plenty of younger people at mine. Scrivener7 Apr 2025 #28
oooppps. marble falls Apr 2025 #38
Well, as possibly the location, there was one in Newark close by which is a college town Walleye Apr 2025 #56
Young folks are in denial is what I think. lark Apr 2025 #55
There may have been many more young people at the Newark rally, which is near the University Walleye Apr 2025 #57
Divide and conquer Ferryboat Apr 2025 #25
Sucks to be them. Karma is a bitch. Told ya so. Hm. I'm running out of stuff. I was not such a Boomer. mucholderthandirt Apr 2025 #26
We gave you GWB, Trump, $35 trillion debt and lied us into a couple wars. Other than that doc03 Apr 2025 #29
Sorry, but Trump voting was not an all-Boomer production Vogon_Glory Apr 2025 #30
I want to see the breakdown by horoscope sign. jalan48 Apr 2025 #34
Hubby and I are Boomers mcar Apr 2025 #37
Sometimes I can't help but get a certain impression... Drum Apr 2025 #41
Funny how that works. It makes it feel like a trolling, doesn't it? marble falls Apr 2025 #44
Yup Drum Apr 2025 #46
So true. I've been lamenting what happened to my generation.. ananda Apr 2025 #42
Progressives have never been in the majority thucythucy Apr 2025 #50
That's a good idea. Also, the idea of "permissiveness" took hold... ananda Apr 2025 #58
humans... stillcool Apr 2025 #49
I have an acquaintance like that- viva la Apr 2025 #51
Not exactly relevant to this discussion. Just a song I like that was around SF in the Reagan years. jls4561 Apr 2025 #54

marble falls

(71,926 posts)
1. But all those tech bros aren't boomers. Fuck the generational shit. Jerry Rubin was just fucking Jerry Rubin.
Wed Apr 9, 2025, 08:05 AM
Apr 2025

Walleye

(44,806 posts)
2. Many of us, baby boomers worked hard at our careers through those years. Investing in a 401(k).
Wed Apr 9, 2025, 08:05 AM
Apr 2025

Riding out every goddamn up and down in the economy. We finally made it alive to retirement age, and now this. We are not ex-yuppies most of us, most of us just want to live our retirement in peace. We can’t have that, we’re not allowed to have nice things.

sinkingfeeling

(57,835 posts)
33. A lot of us are ex-Hippies. Vietnam war protesters, and Equal rights supporters who worked 45 years or
Wed Apr 9, 2025, 10:00 AM
Apr 2025

more, paying our taxes and saving a little for retirement.

JT45242

(4,043 posts)
4. Little sympathy for boomers as a group...they turned from protesting for civil rights to buying into fear of browning
Wed Apr 9, 2025, 08:16 AM
Apr 2025

Of America.

As a gen X , we are often accused of being the greed is good generation with Gordon gecko as our hero ...nope that was our mentors in the boomers.

When the Willie Horton add worked on boomers it was the first step towards the groupthink that as long as someone is suffering more than me and I can pursue as much money as possible and the nonstop fear mongering on conservative media, it was only a matter of time before some exKGB realized Kruschev promise that they would bury us.

Lifestyles of the rich famous lies and the apprentice and we had millions of boomers voting for mango Mussolini because that uppity black woman should not be elected.

I realize that the boomers in DU are not that group, but have watched my father in law who worked with the Rev. Barber senior on civil rights as a minister become a birther and trump voter. He is more representative of the generation. He was at the Kent State shooting as an architectural student. Not a protester, but he was there.

Scrivener7

(59,522 posts)
6. Mmmkay. And I guess we should have no sympathy for you either: "How Gen X Became the Trumpiest Generation."
Wed Apr 9, 2025, 08:26 AM
Apr 2025
How Gen X Became the Trumpiest Generation
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2022/05/20/cherie-westrich-alt-rock-gen-x-maga-00033769
Now, though, there is no confusion: Generation X is safely Republican. One model from 2014 measuring only white voters through the 2012 election shows those born in the mid-to-late 1960s being the most Republican-leaning of all, more so than the older Boomers and Silent generation. In a poll released in late April by Marist/NPR that separated voters by generation, Generation X had the highest level of disapproval for Biden and were the generation most likely to say they would vote for a Republican candidate in the midterms if they were held that day.

Walleye

(44,806 posts)
21. I call them the Nancy Reagan generation. They don't seem to understand real life. They brought up on just say no.
Wed Apr 9, 2025, 09:11 AM
Apr 2025

Walleye

(44,806 posts)
53. That is absolutely true. I think we all suffer from that kind of thing as well as far as being the victims of it.
Wed Apr 9, 2025, 11:28 AM
Apr 2025

JT45242

(4,043 posts)
45. Not sure the 2024 election results bore that out -- as Boomers went more for teh felon -- White, especially white males,
Wed Apr 9, 2025, 10:23 AM
Apr 2025

of both generations have bought into the myth that the world is pitted against white men rather than admitting that lack of skills, educatin, etc. got you replaced by robots and computer efficiency. Much easier to blame it on the "browning of America" or "DEI hires" of women and minorities.

There is a reason that all the major spokespeople for this bullshit have been white makes -- first Limbaugh and his ilk and now with younger white men screaming about how the world discriminates against them .

No Joe Rogan -- you got fired and have little comedy career because you were not funny and were unreliable on the set. Your only steady job is to be the shill for the russian mob who own the UFC and to spout Russian propaganda via podcasts. Shapiro and a slew of others.

If the Boomers had not swung to Reagan and eliminate dthe fairness doctrine and not allowed a foreign interest to buy a "news" company to turn it into a propaganda factory, we might be in a very different place.

White males -- especially undereducated and exceptionally wealthy -- are what are driving the trump train -- one out of a belief that they can blame someone else for their own failures and the other out of a sense of greed that they can manipulate the poor to steal more and more wealth.

yorkster

(3,832 posts)
47. There were also a helluva lot of people older than the boomers
Wed Apr 9, 2025, 10:33 AM
Apr 2025

who went for Reagan big time.

Jit423

(1,568 posts)
7. Sadly, you are correct in so many ways.
Wed Apr 9, 2025, 08:30 AM
Apr 2025

You will take some hits, but deep down we know you are right.

hlthe2b

(113,971 posts)
9. Two screen names so very similar. with identical viewpoints.. What a coinkeydink....
Wed Apr 9, 2025, 08:37 AM
Apr 2025


hlthe2b

(113,971 posts)
8. Such divisive posts--whether against Boomers, Gen-X, Millenials, Gen-Z need to stop!
Wed Apr 9, 2025, 08:35 AM
Apr 2025

There are Trump-supporters, dishonest, greedy people and genuine a-holes among EVERY generation.

So, given your attitude, I guess you are celebrating Boomers who have lost everything and will end up on the streets? Yes, I know of some who are THAT close to being homeless. And, no, none of them ever stepped away from their compassion and support for all others in the name of $$$.

Your post is shameful.

UpInArms

(54,983 posts)
11. I disagree with your assessment
Wed Apr 9, 2025, 08:37 AM
Apr 2025

I see gen x as the real problem.

They were not raised by the generation of wwii veterans … they embraced the I me me my crap wholeheartedly.

I know too many of them who are too lazy to be informed or involved. They tend not to vote in every election. They think they are too busy.

I have been in the streets since the 70s, fighting for women’s rights and citizens’ rights. We have protested every war and every bad actor.

Anyone who cannot remember life before the microwave and cellphone should do a bit of introspection.

Response to UpInArms (Reply #11)

marble falls

(71,926 posts)
31. BS. You'd better take a good look at the biggest segement of those at town halls, ...
Wed Apr 9, 2025, 09:53 AM
Apr 2025

... and who is attending the rallies.

mcar

(46,056 posts)
39. So, you know every Boomer in the U.S.?
Wed Apr 9, 2025, 10:14 AM
Apr 2025

all of us "turned from protesting for civil rights to buying into fear of browning Of America." All of us?

Oh, and your FIL is not "more representative" of our generation.

This is insulting, divisive nonsense.

Scrivener7

(59,522 posts)
5. Generation Jones here (I just learned that's a thing) so technically I'm one of those
Wed Apr 9, 2025, 08:18 AM
Apr 2025

Boomers. We've been through massive losses before. I'm thinking of 1987, 1989-91, 97-00, 2001, 2008, 2020 and now. I may be missing one or two in there.

Many of us have learned from the past and become extremely cautious.

Of course, I suspect the magats my age thought this was going to be a windfall for them. For them I have many tots and pears.

Woodwizard

(1,322 posts)
10. 1964.
Wed Apr 9, 2025, 08:37 AM
Apr 2025

Do we need to paint with a broad brush? 52 percent of men unde 50 voted for Trump.

I have worked my whole life with my hands living simply and putting away everything I could so I could retire and survive. Then to watch it burn under the whims of the clueless.

Keep the generation typing on FB.

There is an uptick of baiting posts on DU, it is a much different place than 20 years ago.

Easterncedar

(6,267 posts)
12. Note the OP isn't saying anything about all Boomers
Wed Apr 9, 2025, 08:37 AM
Apr 2025

Don’t take it personally! This doesn’t describe me or my siblings or my friends, but surely applies to some of our generation.

Scrivener7

(59,522 posts)
15. But it applies to some of every generation. So why single out one and smack lips over their members' suffering?
Wed Apr 9, 2025, 08:55 AM
Apr 2025

And how do you get that the OP said nothing about Boomers. Read the title again. The post is explicitly about Boomers.

EYESORE 9001

(29,732 posts)
16. Makes me wonder why it needs further discussion at all
Wed Apr 9, 2025, 08:56 AM
Apr 2025

unless it’s to stir the merde - as if we didn’t have enough divisiveness already.

hlthe2b

(113,971 posts)
17. At least 2 Responders on this post have. So read the others before excoriating those of us objecting to such
Wed Apr 9, 2025, 08:57 AM
Apr 2025

conflation of an entire generation with MAGA/TRUMP ugly selfishness--whether Boomers, Gen-X, Gen-Z, Millennials.

Read the thread before insulting the rest of us who are RIGHTFULLY objecting to such nastiness and divisiveness.

Walleye

(44,806 posts)
23. Putin, Musk and Trump love to see us picking away at each other like this. It makes them happy.
Wed Apr 9, 2025, 09:17 AM
Apr 2025

marble falls

(71,926 posts)
36. BS. All he mentioned was "boomers", not "some boomers", not "including Xers, Millenials etc" ...
Wed Apr 9, 2025, 10:08 AM
Apr 2025

... no qualifications at all. Just "Boomers".

It's good that a sense shame caused you to misinterpret what he meant when he said "boomers". It shows you don't really believe that crap, either.

marble falls

(71,926 posts)
43. That's not the discussion. The discussion is "boomers elected Mango Jebus", that "boomers ...
Wed Apr 9, 2025, 10:20 AM
Apr 2025

... are no longer marching because we all became rich."

We still march. We still struggle. We still get arrested at protests.

If we can't hold hands, our lines will not hold.

lark

(26,081 posts)
19. Yes, there are those that took a hard right turn.
Wed Apr 9, 2025, 09:02 AM
Apr 2025

However, this is not all Boomers. A lot of us that marched against Vietnam were in the Hands Off ralllies last Saturday and thankfully there were also newbies that had never protested before. There were all ages there!

Walleye

(44,806 posts)
24. Most of the people I saw at our rally were middle-aged or older. Don't know where the young people are
Wed Apr 9, 2025, 09:18 AM
Apr 2025

Walleye

(44,806 posts)
56. Well, as possibly the location, there was one in Newark close by which is a college town
Wed Apr 9, 2025, 12:06 PM
Apr 2025

lark

(26,081 posts)
55. Young folks are in denial is what I think.
Wed Apr 9, 2025, 11:54 AM
Apr 2025

There were some 20 somethings at our rally, maybe a few teenagers, but mostly middle age and older.

Walleye

(44,806 posts)
57. There may have been many more young people at the Newark rally, which is near the University
Wed Apr 9, 2025, 12:07 PM
Apr 2025

Ferryboat

(1,264 posts)
25. Divide and conquer
Wed Apr 9, 2025, 09:36 AM
Apr 2025

Last edited Wed Apr 9, 2025, 12:49 PM - Edit history (3)

That is what assholes do.

Get us arguing amongst ourselves pointing fingers.

Just stop it

mucholderthandirt

(1,783 posts)
26. Sucks to be them. Karma is a bitch. Told ya so. Hm. I'm running out of stuff. I was not such a Boomer.
Wed Apr 9, 2025, 09:37 AM
Apr 2025

I've always been poor, my family is poor (mostly working poor, but one paycheck away from disaster). I have no sympathy for people who let greed and stupidity run their lives. They knew full well what they were doing, and what the consequences were. They just hoped everyone else was going to suffer them.

Pull your big kid's britches up and deal, you dig me?

doc03

(39,086 posts)
29. We gave you GWB, Trump, $35 trillion debt and lied us into a couple wars. Other than that
Wed Apr 9, 2025, 09:47 AM
Apr 2025

what is the problem. I am not saying we haven't done some good things but let's be honest.


Vogon_Glory

(10,297 posts)
30. Sorry, but Trump voting was not an all-Boomer production
Wed Apr 9, 2025, 09:47 AM
Apr 2025

A lot of Trump voters came from the Gen X and Millenial generations, as well as from the up-and-coming idjits from the Generation Z generation who blew off history class and thought that the lesson units about the Great Depression were so-o-o-o irrelevant.

mcar

(46,056 posts)
37. Hubby and I are Boomers
Wed Apr 9, 2025, 10:11 AM
Apr 2025

we did not become Reagan Yuppies. Our retirement savings is in the stock market (most of it).

Why tar all of us in the stock market as "Reagan Yuppies?" My husband is a retired public school teacher, I'm a retired editor. We run a small charity that gets medical supplies to countries in need.

Drum

(10,678 posts)
41. Sometimes I can't help but get a certain impression...
Wed Apr 9, 2025, 10:18 AM
Apr 2025

…when an Original Poster never comes back to their post to attend to their droppings.

ananda

(35,145 posts)
42. So true. I've been lamenting what happened to my generation..
Wed Apr 9, 2025, 10:19 AM
Apr 2025

since the eighties.

We were so great in the 60's and 70's.

It really is a tragedy.

thucythucy

(9,103 posts)
50. Progressives have never been in the majority
Wed Apr 9, 2025, 11:05 AM
Apr 2025

in any generation, ever.

"Hippies" and peace and civil rights activists were a minority in the 1960s. The so-called Greatest Generation, as an example, was overwhelmingly conservative and supported the Vietnam War almost to the very end.

What happened in the '60s was a confluence of circumstances that will probably never again be possible:

Media not under the control of a few oligarchs, and which included journalists, even in the mainstream, not afraid to report the truth as they saw it;

A public university system that for the first time in American history allowed access to working class people, many of whom were radicalized by their education--which for the first time began to include revisionist accounts of American history;

An economy--thanks in large part to FDR's New Deal and the GI Bill of Rights--that provided an unprecedented degree of affluence, most especially for young white males, and made the economic disparities between whites and everyone else all the more glaring;

the advent of birth control, together with the burgeoning women's movement, that for the first time ever enabled more women to make choices about the course of their lives;

a public school system that in the 1940s and '50s and into the '60s enjoyed a status and an influx of public investment that raised standards and produced more critically thinking young people than ever before;

a labor movement more robust and more effective in raising living standards than we'd seen, before or since...

Since then the right has been on a campaign--largely successful--to undo all of that:

Undermining and directly attacking all aspects of public education. Ronald Reagan was elected governor of California largely by attacking the University of California, continuing as president to attack "eggheads" and "Marxist professors":

Buying up all the major media outlets so that only conservative voices get full airing;

Attacking feminism and civil rights by pitting white men against everyone else;

Ending or undermining much of the social safety net put into place by FDR, Truman, and Johnson;

Attacking or co opting the labor movement.

What we are seeing today is the culmination of all these efforts.

Until the left begins to understand and confront all these factors progressives will most likely never again be in a position to influence, let alone control, the direction we take as a society.

ananda

(35,145 posts)
58. That's a good idea. Also, the idea of "permissiveness" took hold...
Wed Apr 9, 2025, 12:33 PM
Apr 2025

and that led to huge fear, especially of Black people
and women who believed in free love.

Nixon got hold of that, and so did Reagan; and many
people bought into it.

And the society as a whole has never recovered from it.

The racism and misogyny you see now grew out of that era.

stillcool

(34,407 posts)
49. humans...
Wed Apr 9, 2025, 10:54 AM
Apr 2025

what you see in one, is inherent in us all...mirrors everywhere if you dare to look. Divide and conquer always seems to work, regardless of the purely accidental time and place of our birth.

viva la

(4,598 posts)
51. I have an acquaintance like that-
Wed Apr 9, 2025, 11:22 AM
Apr 2025

Only he STILL thinks Trump is great for the economy.
This is a businessman who has an MBA and everything, and lives on his investments. But he must not be looking at his portfolio very often, as he is absolutely certain Biden was terrible for the stock market, and that Trump is right at this moment lifting us to new heights.

It's like he is blinded by his adoration of Trump. He of all people should be cynical and clear-eyed because he's trained as a financial analyst, but he sees that down arrow on the Dow Jones graphic and says it's up up up.

So I don't actually have a lot of confidence that those Trumpy boomers (I'm a boomer, but always anti) will look at their own funds and say, "Wait. I'm losing money this year."
Trumpers have 20/20 anal vision, as my dad used to call it.

jls4561

(3,115 posts)
54. Not exactly relevant to this discussion. Just a song I like that was around SF in the Reagan years.
Wed Apr 9, 2025, 11:41 AM
Apr 2025
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