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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSomeone got tipped off on Donald Trumps 90 day pause on tariffs.
We were watching CNBC and the stock market was down at noon, and an hour later it shot up 1200(?) points. Then, fifteen minutes later, he posted on Truth Social.
This is so corrupt. Find those people who got tipped off!
dalton99a
(91,506 posts)homegirl
(1,907 posts)Billionaire Boys Club and the stock market leadership, Trump was taken tot he back room and beaten into submission! Next step, the politicians will impeach and remove him!
azureblue
(2,636 posts)to manipulate the stock market. Isn't that kind of illegal?
unblock
(55,841 posts)But this is the president we have, sadly
pat_k
(12,612 posts)mobeau69
(12,201 posts)Celerity
(53,333 posts)Electronic Communication Network
https://lightspeed.com/active-trading-blog/what-is-an-electronic-communication-network-ecn
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An ECN is a computerized trading system that matches buy and sell orders for securities. ECNs allow traders to trade directly with each other, without the need for a middleman such as a broker or market maker. ECNs operate in a decentralized manner, meaning that there is no central exchange or trading floor.
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Participants in the ECN:
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Brokers and market makers also use ECNs to execute trades on behalf of their clients. Market makers provide liquidity to the ECN by posting buy and sell orders for securities. In return, they receive a small fee for each trade they execute.
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Girard442
(6,804 posts)Only knaves and fools in it now.
Prof. Toru Tanaka
(2,890 posts)has 0% in stocks. Fucking bunch of crooks playing Russian roulette with peoples retirement funds.
surfered
(10,709 posts)durablend
(8,821 posts)Bengus81
(9,671 posts)for out and out stock manipulation and insider trading. Proving once again it's over,Democracy died the day that POS took office.
mdbl
(7,962 posts)The highest crooked court in the land.
muriel_volestrangler
(105,376 posts)The Orange Rapist's pseudo-tweet is timestamped at 1:18pm; the chart for the S&P 500 I see shows the rise starting between 1:15 (5040.86) and 1:20 (5143.92).
on edit: more precisely, 1:18: 5011.62, 1:19: 5142.75.
Baitball Blogger
(51,581 posts)amount of minutes later came up the truth social quote. That's what I observed.
muriel_volestrangler
(105,376 posts)But the timings I can find are as above.
Bernardo de La Paz
(60,320 posts)justsomeguy01
(32 posts)Bengus81
(9,671 posts)muriel_volestrangler
(105,376 posts)Bengus81
(9,671 posts)Doesn't matter when he announced today,they just knew he was going to announce. Look at Tesla,up almost $50 over this blatant manipulation.
in2herbs
(4,099 posts)MayReasonRule
(3,994 posts)BComplex
(9,698 posts)very same thing. Trump is a fucking criminal, and the republicans DON'T CARE!!!! They're profiting off of it.
Mme. Defarge
(8,874 posts)far worse offenders.
markodochartaigh
(4,780 posts)these are very complicated situations in which prosecutors and judges must take into account many subtle and complicated details far too obscure and convoluted for persons uneducated in the finer complexities of the law. Oh, and she is a Democrat.
GoodRaisin
(10,669 posts)Him and his cronies.
Then they come out with their baloney about 75 phantom countries.
Bernardo de La Paz
(60,320 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(60,320 posts)What happened was that there was a good Treasury 10 year Note auction. That was the initial bump.
SleeplessinSoCal
(10,359 posts)It's a sad picture of what we've become.
kimbutgar
(26,585 posts)Why am I not shocked?
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220214585
littlemissmartypants
(31,090 posts)That is, hasn't been paying attention.
❤️
maspaha
(696 posts)Law and Order!
mobeau69
(12,201 posts)Diraven
(1,772 posts)mobeau69
(12,201 posts)Bev54
(13,107 posts)The markets should have opened way down again today, especially with world sell off of US bonds but it didnt which says to me somebodies were buying big knowing this was coming.
Hornedfrog2000
(866 posts)To 0% from my checks. I am seriously considering other avenues to save for retirement. I cant have some idiot having so much control over my finances.
NoRethugFriends
(3,629 posts)Hornedfrog2000
(866 posts)Tired of propping up rich people
NoRethugFriends
(3,629 posts)Hornedfrog2000
(866 posts)I need things more liquid at this point. He is making people lose faith in the market. I doubt i am the only one who is pulling out their money. I will leave what i have in, but I also make $200k a year and why would i invest into a market that is clearly rigged?
stollen
(1,031 posts)The politicians do. They either put the pressure on Trump re: tariffs or prepared themselves, with insider knowledge, to benefit.
I stayed in during the W market tank and stayed in during Trump's CIVID debacle. Despite losing $111,000 in a month, I felt comfortable hanging in with one fund but did cash out at a near high with the other, fearful Trump would take it all.
WSHazel
(626 posts)A week ago he announces catastrophically damaging tariffs, and the market goes into a tailspin. Then, with no new information, and Trump reiterating that he would keep the tariffs on, suddenly reverses course, sending the market shooting up.
This is not the first time he has done a bad news/good news about face. It looks sketchy and it will chase off investors if they think the market is rigged. This isnt one of those things where they need to prove anything. It just looks sketchy, and that is all it takes.
Tanuki
(16,231 posts)splano
(18 posts)It leaked yesterday on X but was pretty much dismissed as fake news.
The post made its way through several investing groups Im a member of and it wasnt until trumps message this morning about buying and seeing that the market was moving slightly up amongst the turmoil that I had a strong feeling it was true.
Bernardo de La Paz
(60,320 posts)Last edited Wed Apr 9, 2025, 03:25 PM - Edit history (1)
This tweet
Link to tweet
is not the tweet you are talking about:
1) It was today, not yesterday
2) It was tRump, publicly. That's not a leak. That was not somebody leaking about hidden info.

birdographer
(2,937 posts)was totally made up by someone, has no basis in reality.
Maru Kitteh
(31,106 posts)twodogsbarking
(17,224 posts)getting hit twice. China has never bowed to him so he has to make an example of them. Typical MF Trump.
Doodley
(11,547 posts)be calling for him to resign. But with Trump, this is seen as great news.
Bernardo de La Paz
(60,320 posts)Arazi
(8,654 posts)Alright, I think people knew of the tariff pause and traded it beforehand.
— Unusual Whales (@unusualwhales.bsky.social) 2025-04-09T18:20:58.509Z
You can see before Trump posted "buy" on Truth Social, traders opened $QQQ $TQQQ and $SPY calls
RIGHT BEFORE THE NEWS, someone opened $SPY 509 calls, expiring TODAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Those calls are up 2100% in one hour.
SayItLoud
(1,771 posts)There are no enforcement methods or devices under this DICKtator's rule.
Renew Deal
(84,613 posts)brush
(61,033 posts)Last edited Wed Apr 9, 2025, 03:14 PM - Edit history (1)
creating not just a national economic crisis but an international one as China, Europe and the rest of the world signaled they will institute retaliatory tariffs. trump blinked and had to put a 90-day pause on the still tariffs.
That's why the market shot up, but a coming recession is already baked in, maybe even a depression.
Tariffs wars don't work. trump is an idiot for thinking other countries won't retaliate.
Bengus81
(9,671 posts)Yeah...the tariffs are off,then ON,then OFF. Hot button crap that moves the markets. He manipulated them and no doubt committed insider trading. That POS is a career criminal.
brush
(61,033 posts)who are selling short on his manipulations and volatility of the markets. I think the fool just enjoys creating chaos and thinking other countries have to come kiss his ring and ask for personal favors for their economies.
Dark n Stormy Knight
(10,479 posts)that he doesn't have good reason to expect will result in him gaining power and/or money. Or both. Selling pardons, kickbacks of all sorts...I don't know enough to know all the ways he's gifting, but I know that if there's one thing he's good at, it's gifting.
Emile
(39,858 posts)FakeNoose
(39,779 posts)
Deuxcents
(25,137 posts)Warpy
(114,321 posts)They might get suckered this time along with the rest of us, they might not.
Nobody knows what is going to happen long term as long as That Fat Grifter is swinging his bludgeon around and pulling unrealistic numbers out of his bum.
Turbineguy
(39,728 posts)D_Master81
(2,326 posts)Martha Stewart went to jail for the same thing. But that was back when we were a nation of laws
doc03
(38,735 posts)billionaires are making money on every rise or dip.
patphil
(8,595 posts)I thought he would let the market go down a few thousand points more before announcing a "pause".
Maybe he wanted to preempt any Congressional action to take away his tariff power so he can do it again in a few months.
It's all blatant manipulation and insider trading. The rich get richer, and everyone else gets screwed.
If he had done nothing, the results would have been catastrophic. The securities market was already under attack, and if Trump waited another week, it would have been brutal.
He's getting good advice from people who know how to manipulate markets, and he's listening to it.
I didn't think he would.
The takeaway here is that the whole tariff thing was just a smoke screen for market manipulation.
As usual, it's all about the money.
Silly me, I thought he actually believed the hype he was putting our about Making America Great Again.
All he really wanted was to make the rich richer, including himself.
poozwah
(388 posts)from manican to panican. guess he will now have to play golf with the opposite, and much fairer, sex.
Dave Id
(220 posts)Surly it was a coincidence, /s
Marcuse
(8,745 posts)Frasier Balzov
(4,764 posts)bucolic_frolic
(53,586 posts)I didn't watch the market today. Went food shopping. Saw lots of price increases, but also some declines and bagged some real bargains. Also saw a woman digging in a public trash barrel. She carried out a large paper bag. She had a car, but I do wonder if she was rummaging for food. Or perhaps aluminum cans.
Anyway .... Micron shot up 12 points, Uber 3 and change, right on down the line. Missed them all. This is much like the day Musk went public about acquiring Twitter. I was short and lost more than a bit. So my guess is Musk.
kentuck
(115,017 posts)At what price did they buy back their stock?
That would be just like a "taxcut".
Buttoneer
(909 posts)Baitball Blogger
(51,581 posts)DENVERPOPS
(13,003 posts)neutered the SEC in the first administration, along with all other regulatory agencies with initials...
Eddie Haskell 60
(39 posts)No doubt they got a heads-up! All their stock holdings should be reviewed.
Blue Full Moon
(3,062 posts)I like his videos. He left the country to get his wife a green card and he is in Korea because they won't let him come back to the USA.
Baitball Blogger
(51,581 posts)It does make me sick the way the Republicans do everything to protect each other from accountability.
evilhime
(372 posts)I want to know how many and which proxies bought for chump when it was bottomed out only to be able to sell now as it goes up again. AT the very least it smacks of insider trading, and likely manipulation as well.
Baitball Blogger
(51,581 posts)Trump wouldn't be able to resist.
iemanja
(57,248 posts)That involves thousands of fund managers. Institutional investors, not individuals, do most of the trading on Wall Street.
Jit423
(1,568 posts)Why most people don't see or understand what they are doing is beyond me. The stock market money is leaving the country and we don't even know it. Anyone with a 401K should be worried and ready to cash in and make other plans for their investment.
ecstatic
(34,992 posts)Because they're so confident that nothing will happen to them. I'm so sick of this shit!
DENVERPOPS
(13,003 posts)have rendered the SEC neutered............
AdamGG
(1,854 posts)because no federal entity is going to prosecute this for at least 4 years. And, there will be so much more crazy shit between now and then that it will probably not be at the top of their list.
Baitball Blogger
(51,581 posts)Marcuse
(8,745 posts)Hear no evil, see no evil
..EVIL

iemanja
(57,248 posts)But not the entire market. Thats nonsensical. It would involve tipping off all the major mutual funds and retirement funds. Does anyone actually think Trump world tip off thousands of fund managers?
This supposed timing story also ignores the impact of the t-bill sales.
People love conspiracy theories. It leaves me sad about the state of our country.
AdamGG
(1,854 posts)didn't benefit from this. It's the biggest insider tip of all time and they're the least ethical people in the country.
They're also very unprofessional and sloppy and the tip could have spread like wildfire. Trump was posting, "now is the time to buy" on social media beforehand because he is congenitally incapable of being ethical.
iemanja
(57,248 posts)I agree that it is likely they did benefit, but thats insider trading. The OPs claim is that the entire bounce back yesterday was rigged. Naturally no one can explain how that could even happen
InAbLuEsTaTe
(25,488 posts)Happy Hoosier
(9,345 posts)Ah man, I think they have a whole call list to hit when he does this shit. I mean, why not? He can do whatever he wants.... no consequences.
